'26 UT WR Salesi Moa (Tennessee commit)

[GUNTERSVOL]

hwat

Take fewer HS projects, save slots for portal. Some of your passes could be targets a year or two down the road.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Haven’t followed this one well. Fair to say we are considered the underdog?

50/50…

Assumption is he stays home and goes to Utah but if not then it will be us and we did as good a recruiting job as you could reasonably expect.

 

[Volman678]

50/50…

Assumption is he stays home and goes to Utah but if not then it will be us and we did as good a recruiting job as you could reasonably expect.

if we got Moa and Keys with King and Bey. Kelsey Pope deserves a massive raise

 

[Adam Sandler]

if we got Moa and Keys with King and Bey. Kelsey Pope deserves a massive raise

I wouldn’t say that. I’d like to see proof of his development first. He hasn’t had a guy show significant positive development under him imo, and I don’t count Hyatt/Tillman/Keyton as their growth was under Burns.

 

[RandomUTfan]

if we got Moa and Keys with King and Bey. Kelsey Pope deserves a massive raise

<pops popcorn>

 

[Blake25p]

Haven’t followed this one well. Fair to say we are considered the underdog?

Id say 51/49 Utah

 

[SugarCC]

I wouldn’t say that. I’d like to see proof of his development first. He hasn’t had a guy show significant positive development under him imo, and I don’t count Hyatt/Tillman/Keyton as their growth was under Burns.

Hyatt and Keyton caught a wopping 28 passes COMBINED, the one season they spent with Burns. Those 28 catches went for 298 yards (combined), and 2 TDs (again, combined...both by Hyatt).

In 22, with Pope, they combined for 98 catches, 1829 yds, and 20 TDs.

In 23, Keyton caught 35 passes for 642 yds and 6 TDs...all higher than the previous year. Those totals would have been significantly higher had he not dropped countless passes. Drops are not on the coach...all player once he's open, especially if it's hitting his hands.

 

[SKV84]

I wouldn’t say that. I’d like to see proof of his development first. He hasn’t had a guy show significant positive development under him imo, and I don’t count Hyatt/Tillman/Keyton as their growth was under Burns.

Lmao...what the hell did Hyatt/Keyton do under Burns?

 

[KnoxToTheBoro93]

Nobody said anything about scientific. But those who say recruiting rankings don’t matter, meaning star rankings don’t matter are just simply ignoring the obvious. They absolutely matter. If they didn’t then the teams that win at the highest rate year, after year, after year, after year wouldn’t be winning as much.

What about the huge difference in the rest of the top 25 outside the top 4 or 5? It’s easy to find the 5 stars the 3 and 4 stars are where they are very shaky… you forced a point when there was none to be made..

 

[Jackcrevol]

if we got Moa and Keys with King and Bey. Kelsey Pope deserves a massive raise

 

[orangemadam]

If frogs had wings ................

 

[Adam Sandler]

Hyatt and Keyton caught a wopping 28 passes COMBINED, the one season they spent with Burns. Those 28 catches went for 298 yards (combined), and 2 TDs (again, combined...both by Hyatt).

In 22, with Pope, they combined for 98 catches, 1829 yds, and 20 TDs.

In 23, Keyton caught 35 passes for 642 yds and 6 TDs...all higher than the previous year. Those totals would have been significantly higher had he not dropped countless passes. Drops are not on the coach...all player once he's open, especially if it's hitting his hands.

Yeah they were buried on the depth chart and had subpar qb play in 2020.

Hyatt had his breakout season because of Hooker and the development of that connection as starters in their 2nd year in Heupels system, not clearly due to his position coach developing his skills as a wide receiver. He rarely had to run anything besides a go route and usually caught the ball uncontested. That’s what happens when Heupels offense performs as expected. He may very well have had the same exact season under burns.

In 2023 I’m convinced Keyton regressed. He just started so he got more overall stats.

Our other wide receivers since 2022 have had their seasons performances marred by QBs who couldn’t hit the deep ball with touch, and a heck of a lot of drops.

I don’t necessarily agree that drops are only on the player, especially when it appears to be a systemic issue. And unfortunately I don’t know that this season is for sure gonna be a good judge of Pope because his guys are so young, but I will be closely watching MM and Brazzell hoping they put together big seasons and look improved over last year.

Did Pope get a contract extension yet? For a long while he was the only coach who hadn’t.

He said massive raise. Not saying pope doesn’t get a raise or extension if heupel thinks he’s worth keeping (which based on heups past I would say he’s likely to do and have faith that pope only grows more and more as a young coach). A more appropriate statement than the one I made would have been “under burns and pope” since pope had a season with them. My point was just that they were coached for two years by burns and one year by pope in which our offense was the best in football, and it hasn’t scratched that on the passing side since, under pope. Not saying he’s not good (if uga wanted him he’s got to have talent either in coaching or recruiting or both) and I hope he’s here long enough to see if he becomes a fantastic wide receiver coach, just saying the jury is out on pope to me as a developer and I don’t think he deserves a big ole raise simply because he’s had some good recruiting wins (which don’t get me wrong is vitally important - but not more (or less for that matter) important than development). I don’t read Heups mind, but my opinion is he needs to show that he can take a player from high school to upperclassmen and develop them, in addition to recruiting well, before he starts seeing regular and “massive” raises and extensions.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Lmao...what the hell did Hyatt/Keyton do under Burns?

Nothing, they were freshman buried on the depth chart. But the fact remains they had two years with him and only one with pope under vastly different circumstances: being the tenured players and starters in a year where players had now been in the same offense for 2+ years and the oline and qb were absolutely phenomenal, making the wide receivers jobs a whole lot easier.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Lmao...what the hell did Hyatt/Keyton do under Burns?

Look at what the WRs did in 2023 and last year. Tell us which one Pope developed.

 

[MarcoVol]

Look at what the WRs did in 2023 and last year. Tell us which one Pope developed.

Thornton had a good year. But none of he, Bru, Squirrel could stay healthy.

Keyton turned in a pretty good career under Pope. Squirrel’s ‘23 was good.

But if he doesn’t get credit for guys he inherited then are we not giving Heup credit for HH? Or does that rule only apply to Pope?

 

[SKV84]

Nothing, they were freshman buried on the depth chart. But the fact remains they had two years with him and only one with pope under vastly different circumstances: being the tenured players and starters in a year where players had now been in the same offense for 2+ years and the oline and qb were absolutely phenomenal, making the wide receivers jobs a whole lot easier.

Lmao...what're you talking about...Burns was only here for 1 year. February 21 to Feb 22.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Lmao...what're you talking about...Burns was only here for 1 year. February 21 to Feb 22.

Seriously? Damn my memory got me f’ed again.

Alright well that gives Pope a bit of grace in my mind, but I’m still not convinced he was the reason our wide receivers were so good in 2022, that he is a great developer of talent (yet), or that he deserves a massive raise because of recruiting wins. If MM and Brazzell have great years this season, I’m on board with the “massive raise” comment.

 

[SugarCC]

Yeah they were buried on the depth chart and had subpar qb play in 2020.

Hyatt had his breakout season because of Hooker and the development of that connection as starters in their 2nd year in Heupels system, not clearly due to his position coach developing his skills as a wide receiver. He rarely had to run anything besides a go route and usually caught the ball uncontested. That’s what happens when Heupels offense performs as expected. He may very well have had the same exact season under burns.

In 2023 I’m convinced Keyton regressed. He just started so he got more overall stats.

Our other wide receivers since 2022 have had their seasons performances marred by QBs who couldn’t hit the deep ball with touch, and a heck of a lot of drops.

I don’t necessarily agree that drops are only on the player, especially when it appears to be a systemic issue. And unfortunately I don’t know that this season is for sure gonna be a good judge of Pope because his guys are so young, but I will be closely watching MM and Brazzell hoping they put together big seasons and look improved over last year.

Did Pope get a contract extension yet? For a long while he was the only coach who hadn’t.

He said massive raise. Not saying pope doesn’t get a raise or extension if heupel thinks he’s worth keeping (which based on heups past I would say he’s likely to do and have faith that pope only grows more and more as a young coach). A more appropriate statement than the one I made would have been “under burns and pope” since pope had a season with them. My point was just that they were coached for two years by burns and one year by pope in which our offense was the best in football, and it hasn’t scratched that on the passing side since, under pope. Not saying he’s not good (if uga wanted him he’s got to have talent either in coaching or recruiting or both) and I hope he’s here long enough to see if he becomes a fantastic wide receiver coach, just saying the jury is out on pope to me as a developer and I don’t think he deserves a big ole raise simply because he’s had some good recruiting wins (which don’t get me wrong is vitally important - but not more (or less for that matter) important than development). I don’t read Heups mind, but my opinion is he needs to show that he can take a player from high school to upperclassmen and develop them, in addition to recruiting well, before he starts seeing regular and “massive” raises and extensions.

Yeah, I was done at "2020".

 

[EastTNVol95]

Tennessee remains the biggest challenger to Utah for the nation’s No. 2 athlete Salesi Moa. It could go either way, a source said. He commits on July 31.

- Wiltfong

 

[BbwVol]

Any info on what time he is committing the 31st yet?

 

[RiseToTheTop]

50/50

 

[Volman678]

I haven't spoken as much on Moa and haven't been super confident but I'll be full torqued if we get him

 

[JCVol00]

- Wiltfong

“50/50” -AP







$9.95 please

 

[Blake25p]

Would be such an impressive pull by the staff, but I just have a feeling the home state school wins out.

 

[BbwVol]

“50/50” -AP







$9.95 please

Still better than craig Tutt where he flat out said a week before he committed that he was going to Ole Miss. Usually, AP tries not ruin the kid's commitment lol. It would be a big upset to get this kid looking back on his recruitment.