UT would have gone 6-6 if they'd played a normal schedule last year....

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jwilliams said:
Ya, for sure... but I think QB play was a bigger issue. Think of all the 14 point swings JG was responsible for.

Edit - And Pruitt's meddling with the offense in general.
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Our defense was only slightly less terrible than our offense.
 
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TrueOrange said:
The schedule would have had 4 OOC games (per the normal schedule for each SEC team).

TN would have played Oklahoma, Charlotte, Furman, and Troy. I think the OP was trying to say that UT would have gone 3-1 among those games.
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Wouldnā€™t have counted on a 3-1. Maybe 2-2. We all know Pruitt struggled with teams like Georgia State.
 
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Glad we played an all SEC schedule then. I hate these crap coaches hiding behind powder puff wins.
 
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dlobh said:
and might still have ol' Tater head for the coach. With wins against the same teams in conference - Missouri, SCe, and Vandy, and 3 OOC wins - 6-6. Would you rather have that or the current situation?
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Maybe. I mean if we could defend the slant or have a 5th year senior qb play like one or coached like one we could have easily been 6-6 or greater.
 
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dlobh said:
and might still have ol' Tater head for the coach. With wins against the same teams in conference - Missouri, SCe, and Vandy, and 3 OOC wins - 6-6. Would you rather have that or the current situation?
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Original schedule we were to play Missouri later when Blazelak took over at QB .They were much better that would have been a L ,Oklahoma would have beat us up in an early game we might have beat Troy , Charlotte & Furman. Probably the easiest OOC in years but we did lose to G state so no guarantees.. Think 5 and 7 would had been the Apex for this team IMO. It still does not change by beating some also ran's from lower conferences while cheating.
 
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dlobh said:
and might still have ol' Tater head for the coach. With wins against the same teams in conference - Missouri, SCe, and Vandy, and 3 OOC wins - 6-6. Would you rather have that or the current situation?
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I'll take our chances with what we have now. Our chances of success with Pruitt at the helm were not good. The Ga St game showed me all I needed to see.
 
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Nothing says weā€™d beat either SC or Missouri again and woulda differently got throttled by Oklahoma!! More likely 2-10....hopin for a big turn around with JH but we lookin at 4-5yrs before we c anything Iā€™m afraid
 
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dlobh said:
and might still have ol' Tater head for the coach. With wins against the same teams in conference - Missouri, SCe, and Vandy, and 3 OOC wins - 6-6. Would you rather have that or the current situation?
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We should have went at least 6-6 (Ark, KY, Aub) with SEC only schedule but team wasn't cohesive, players weren't developed, too many distractions and just bad coaching...not to mention the QB issues.
 
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branchvol said:
Nothing says weā€™d beat either SC or Missouri again and woulda differently got throttled by Oklahoma!! More likely 2-10....hopin for a big turn around with JH but we lookin at 4-5yrs before we c anything Iā€™m afraid
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Not so fast!

Oklahoma was garbage the first 3-4 games of the season. Tennessee played it's best the first two games.
 
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We might have been a little better if we had a true offseason and not the Covid woes. We played OK early when they sucked and we were playing decent. At the end of the day though, Pruitt would have been gone within a year anyhow. Pruitt really wanted us to be like Texas A&M and have low scoring games, no mistakes and good defense. The problem of course is that we would have never beaten Bama or Florida or high scoring teams. I think we will see our QBs, RBs and WRs start getting drafted regularly as well as our OL.

I think we got a better overall coach and staff out of the deal now. It does hurt us short term on recruiting and transfers, but I think longer term will be a better team to watch. Anyway, it was a long frustrating season, but I am more optimistic now than I would have been if Pruitt was the head coach for next year. Heupel isn't flashy like Franklin or Kiffin would have been, but I think he put together a good staff and our offense should be much improved.
 
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dlobh said:
and might still have ol' Tater head for the coach. With wins against the same teams in conference - Missouri, SCe, and Vandy, and 3 OOC wins - 6-6. Would you rather have that or the current situation?
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I like how you just assumed we would have won any of the OOC games.... *Georgia St...cough*
 
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hog88 said:
I see 4 maybe 5 wins total in the original schedule. No way we would have beaten Mizzu after they had 4 games under their belt and Troy would have been a toss up.
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Troy definitely wouldn't have been a toss up. That wasn't a typical Troy team last year. A losing record is rare for them.
 
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jpope9 said:
I like how you just assumed we would have won any of the OOC games.... *Georgia St...cough*
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GA State was a pretty decent team and had a really good QB. Better than what our 3 Non Oklahoma Non Conf games in 2020.
 
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howie87 said:
You not remember Fulmer's Clawfence???
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That offense sucked because it required intelligence at QB and on the entire offense. We didn't exactly have the sharpest tools in the shed, especially Crompton, who was country stupid.
 
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CINCYVOL said:
Not sure any victory could be assumed with a Pruitt team. Iā€™ll never forget the GA St debacle.
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That Ga State game is one of the few games in a coaching career that is not only a huge red flag but should have been an unquestionable, automatic, on the spot termination.

A coach that loses that game, in his second season, at home, with a huge talent advantage, after an entire off season to prepare (after getting blasted by Vanderbilt the last game the prior season and thinking about that for 8 months), does not get to argue they get more time. That coach is just terrible at his job and in way over his head.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
I wanted Pruitt to succeed here so bad. I really did. Definitely don't think he was cut out to be a head coach. Just too hard headed. But I really would have liked to have seen what we could have done with a full, regular season, no covid, full spring and fall camps. I think Bailey would have been in a much better position to come in and play sooner than he did. Maybe the offense gets going earlier in the year. What might have/could have been. Doesn't matter though, of course.
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Do you think the violations he committed that got him fired for cause were because of Covid?

Did Covid cause him to get his ass beat by Vanderbilt and Ga. State?

The dude was terrible at every aspect of his job and more time and perfect circumstances that would have allowed you to see that would have just allowed the cancer to metastisize even farther.
 
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daj2576 said:
Do you think the violations he committed that got him fired for cause were because of Covid?

Did Covid cause him to get his ass beat by Vanderbilt and Ga. State?

The dude was terrible at every aspect of his job and more time and perfect circumstances that would have allowed you to see that would have just allowed the cancer to metastisize even farther.
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Never said he was good head coach. In fact I think I made it clear he wasn't cut out for the job.

And don't act like the things we got in trouble for aren't going on at other schools. We obviously just weren't very good at hiding it like the other places do.

None of the above though changed the fact that I wanted him to succeed. I want Tennessee to succeed as much as anyone on this site. I was a little doubtful when we hired him. We saw some signs along the way that he might could make it, then he lost to GA State and BYU and doubts really started piling up. Then the way we finished last season, going in to this year, we had a lot of momentum. Which leads me again to what I said. It would have been interesting to see what we could have looked at with a full spring, full fall, Bailey with a decent chance to win the job early. Who knows, maybe the season goes the exact same way. But it doesn't really matter.

All said, I want JH to succeed just like I did Pruitt. Again with him, I have my doubts just like I did with Pruitt but I'll at least give him a chance.
 
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buckfama said:
I would like to know what happened in the locker room. Who knows what really happened.


I tend to believe that Pruitt made zero adjustments and Georgia evidently made the right ones. We were simply out coached, the players saw it and just quit.
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Why did something have to happen in the locker room?
Could have simply been the first challenge encountered with no coherent plan and people realizing that
 
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