UT transfer trouble.

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I found the article (frontpage) very interesting .I never had given it much thought but apparently it's a huge risk/liability that has had profound effects on our recruting effort.I think we need to reel the main recruit in first and then worry about maybe trying to obatin the sibbling, if at all.Good article.
 
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I read that. Of course, the unknown flipside is whether the coveted prospect, or his parents, may have leaned on the school to accept the transfer student. It may be that you loose them if you do not accept the transfer. Either way, I would not get into contingent deals like this. A package deal where you tell a top prospect that you'll accept his and his buddies LOIs at the same time is one thing, but getting left hanging in the wind would only go to show that someone got duped.
 
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Good?? CJ was never going to be a good college QB.

Clausen was never a UT commit. He might have given us another look but it's doubtful.

Passley? Made some bad choices not because of BP.

I'm sorry, but if these kids get upset because big bro can't hack it then they have bigger problems. Arkansas is an example of the kids running the program. How's that working for them?
 
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utfantilidie said:
I found the article (frontpage) very interesting .I never had given it much thought but apparently it's a huge risk/liability that has had profound effects on our recruting effort.I think we need to reel the main recruit in first and then worry about maybe trying to obatin the sibbling, if at all.Good article.
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So did I. Basically UT missed out on Jimmy Clausen and Chris Leak by allowing their older brother to transfer and then benching them for a better player.
 
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utvolpj said:
Good?? CJ was never going to be a good college QB.

Clausen was never a UT commit. He might have given us another look but it's doubtful.

Passley? Made some bad choices not because of BP.

I'm sorry, but if these kids get upset because big bro can't hack it then they have bigger problems. Arkansas is an example of the kids running the program. How's that working for them?
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CJ had 2 bum knees when he came to UT. Last I heard he was a TE on the Bills' practice squad.

Passley? Is it Pearl's fault he sucked? Cordell has flunked out of high school, hard to say it's a big loss not having either of those guys next year

Clausen... who cares? I'll take Crompton and Coleman over him anyday.
 
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justingroves said:
Clausen... who cares? I'll take Crompton and Coleman over him anyday.
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I just pictured a couple of good ole' boys leaning on a fence post and watching a Ferrari burn down the highway. Then, one turns to the other and says, "Heh. I'd rather have my ElCamino anyway."
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I just pictured a couple of good ole' boys leaning on a fence post and watching a Ferrari burn down the highway. Then, one turns to the other and says, "Heh. I'd rather have my ElCamino anyway."
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Because Ricky did such a great job here? Clausen played against marginal talent at best in high school. Throwing 40 yard bombs on all the rich kids in Cali make you look good on film.
 
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justingroves said:
Because Ricky did such a great job here? Clausen played against marginal talent at best in high school. Throwing 40 yard bombs on all the rich kids in Cali make you look good on film.
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So BJ Coleman didn't? Oaks Christian had 8 of Cali's Top 100 prospects last year and they all accepted D1 schollys. They just had a great team with special kids. At worst and barring injury, Jimmy will be a good college QB. At best he will be another Peyton, only he will get the Hypesman due to being at ND. I don't look at him as a loss because I don't recall him ever verbaling to UT, but I defintely see him as a lost opportunity.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
So BJ Coleman didn't? Oaks Christian had 8 of Cali's Top 100 prospects last year and they all accepted D1 schollys. They just had a great team with special kids. At worst and barring injury, Jimmy will be a good college QB. At best he will be another Peyton, only he will get the Hypesman due to being at ND. I don't look at him as a loss because I don't recall him ever verbaling to UT, but I defintely see him as a lost opportunity.
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The kid has a HUGE ego. Anyone that saw his little temper tantrum against his WRs in the California championship game wouldn't want this kid on their team.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
So BJ Coleman didn't? Oaks Christian had 8 of Cali's Top 100 prospects last year and they all accepted D1 schollys. They just had a great team with special kids. At worst and barring injury, Jimmy will be a good college QB. At best he will be another Peyton, only he will get the Hypesman due to being at ND. I don't look at him as a loss because I don't recall him ever verbaling to UT, but I defintely see him as a lost opportunity.
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He might have better statistics, but I will say that the 3-4 years he's at Notre Dame he will not win anything that Crompton or Coleman will not win, except maybe an already laughable Heisman
 
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justingroves said:
He might have better statistics, but I will say that the 3-4 years he's at Notre Dame he will win anything that Crompton or Coleman will not win, except maybe an already laughable Heisman
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My understanding was SC was the only other team with any chance at clauson.
 
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droski said:
My understanding was SC was the only other team with any chance at clauson.
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maybe late in his recruitment...but Jimmy was widely considered a future Vol during his 8th, 9th, and 10th grade years.

He was on the UT campus often, had a great relationship with coach Fulmer, and often wore UT hats and shirts to school.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
maybe late in his recruitment...but Jimmy was widely considered a future Vol during his 8th, 9th, and 10th grade years.

He was on the UT campus often, had a great relationship with coach Fulmer, and often wore UT hats and shirts to school.
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I thought there was some bad blood from Dad clauson about the way jimmy was treated.
 
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FTR, CJ Leak was an exceptional HS prospect. He went to WFU to be a savior of the program and played behind such a bad line that his career was effectively ruined.

Though I really wouldn't have wanted Chris Leak, I'm not sure the gripe about CJ not getting a fair shot isn't without merit. He definitely had the arm Clausen never had.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I just pictured a couple of good ole' boys leaning on a fence post and watching a Ferrari burn down the highway. Then, one turns to the other and says, "Heh. I'd rather have my ElCamino anyway."
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Jimmy Clausen was an overrated prospect, I honestly believe that the recruiting evaluators just didn't want to admit how badly they missed on him. I agree, I would much rather have Crompton and Coleman, at least they are fairly mobile and wouldn't be afraid to get hit. Not to mention you don't lose much in the decision making or arm.
 
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sjt18 said:
FTR, CJ Leak was an exceptional HS prospect. He went to WFU to be a savior of the program and played behind such a bad line that his career was effectively ruined.

Though I really wouldn't have wanted Chris Leak, I'm not sure the gripe about CJ not getting a fair shot isn't without merit. He definitely had the arm Clausen never had.
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Clausen's arm managed to produce some of the most prolific passing seasons in UT history. CJ Leak couldn't beat out two freshmen when he was a senior. Need I say more?
 
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kptvol said:
Clausen's arm managed to produce some of the most prolific passing seasons in UT history. CJ Leak couldn't beat out two freshmen when he was a senior. Need I say more?
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No, that pretty much sums up the situation. :good!:
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
the coaches pegged CJ as starting QB for his senior season during spring, but he didn't progress
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I'd say that's an understatement . . . I have no firsthand information to base this on, but I'd say that if he couldn't hold the job as a senior against 2 true freshmen and with them wanting to land his little brother, you've got to figure that he just wasn't very good.
 
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CJ really hurt us with some of the things after he left, helping UF against us and all that crap
 
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utvolpj said:
Good?? CJ was never going to be a good college QB.

Clausen was never a UT commit. He might have given us another look but it's doubtful.

Passley? Made some bad choices not because of BP.

I'm sorry, but if these kids get upset because big bro can't hack it then they have bigger problems. Arkansas is an example of the kids running the program. How's that working for them?
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They played in the SECCG... :crazy:
 
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