UT SEC and playoffs

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LocoVol

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We were talking about this in another thread and thought It would make for an interesting discussion.

So does a one loss SEC champ make playoffs for sure? or depends on the team? Even if its us with the way we have not gotten respect so far?

Does a two loss SEC team make it in? again depends on who? do we with 2?

Other thoughts?
 
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one loss SEC team in...no way around it...check the stats...:salute:

GO VOLS!
 
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That is the problem I see with the Vols... there is still a good change a 2-loss Bama gets in... especially if the two losses are to the Vols.

I can see and have made comments about quite a few scenarios where Vol fans might not like what happens down the stretch even if the Vols win the SECCG. I could see a scenario where the Vols could be forced to beat Bama three times. Welcome to the world of college football.
 
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Yeah a one loss SEC team is almost certainly in

Two loss team depends on what the other conferences look like
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That is the problem I see with the Vols... there is still a good change a 2-loss Bama gets in... especially if the two losses are to the Vols.

I can see and have made comments about quite a few scenarios where Vol fans might not like what happens down the stretch even if the Vols win the SECCG. I could see a scenario where the Vols could be forced to beat Bama three times. Welcome to the world of college football.
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That would mean they lost to us in the SEC championship. If that's their 2nd loss they would need some help from others to get in
 
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I think 1 loss champ is in, if we win the sec with 1 loss and split games with bama it wouldn't surprise me if we got skipped for bama but odds are it wouldn't happen!

Two loss bama prob gets in not sure about the rest of us
 
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golfballs said:
That would mean they lost to us in the SEC championship. If that's their 2nd loss they would need some help from others to get in
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Nope. You are assuming way too much. My guess is even a 1-loss Bama will be higher ranked than a 1-loss Vols SECCG even if Bama doesn't make it to the SECCG. A 2-loss Bama could still get in but you figure the Vols will be heading.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That is the problem I see with the Vols... there is still a good change a 2-loss Bama gets in... especially if the two losses are to the Vols.

I can see and have made comments about quite a few scenarios where Vol fans might not like what happens down the stretch even if the Vols win the SECCG. I could see a scenario where the Vols could be forced to beat Bama three times. Welcome to the world of college football.
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If we win the east and play in a New Year's 6...I'm ecstatic...playoffs would be gravy.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Nope. You are assuming way too much. My guess is even a 1-loss Bama will be higher ranked than a 1-loss Vols SECCG even if Bama doesn't make it to the SECCG. A 2-loss Bama could still get in but you figure the Vols will be heading.
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The one thing in our favor is the committee has said they favor conference champs so that may hold them to putting us in in that scenario! :dunno:
 
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One loss SEC Champion is definitely in.... Whether that is Tennessee, TAMU, or Alabama.

Only way they wouldn't be in is if all fout other conferences have an undefeated champion and Houston went undefeated. That's not all going to happen this year. SEC gets in over BIGXII for sure
 
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1 loss aTm, TN or bama get in no questions asked.

2 loss bama gets in if they beat a top 5 Tn team in c'ship game rematch.

Maybe a 2 loss TN team gets in if they beat #1, ndefeated bama in c'ship rematch.

aTm maybe has the harder road if they lose to bama, no c'ship game. aTm needs to beat Tn. With bama, ole miss and LSU still on the schedule they can't afford a cross divisional loss. We can, at least as far as the playoff is concerned.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Nope. You are assuming way too much. My guess is even a 1-loss Bama will be higher ranked than a 1-loss Vols SECCG even if Bama doesn't make it to the SECCG. A 2-loss Bama could still get in but you figure the Vols will be heading.
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I can't make any sense of this
 
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LocoVol said:
We were talking about this in another thread and thought It would make for an interesting discussion.

So does a one loss SEC champ make playoffs for sure? or depends on the team? Even if its us with the way we have not gotten respect so far?

Does a two loss SEC team make it in? again depends on who? do we with 2?

Other thoughts?
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The playoffs are easy to predict as far as two teams from one conference or a 2 loss team.

1. There are 5 Power Conferences plus Notre Dame. Any unbeaten Power 5 conference plus Notre Dame will be considered first. If 4 of these are unbeaten those 4 get in. They can talk all this crap they want about strength of schedule, blah, blah, blah. If there are 4 unbeatens from these 6 those 4 get in.

2. If Notre Dame ever finishes unbeaten they are in even if they played 8 high school teams, 3 division 2 teams and beat Michigan.

3. For any conference to get two in, there would have to be only conference with a team with one or zero losses.

4. The bias is, always has been, and always will be Notre Dame first, Big 10 second, Pac 10 3rd.

The way it looks now to me is this: 1. Pac 10 will have zero unbeaten teams. 2. Big 10 will likely have unbeaten Ohio St. 3. The ACC will likely have an unbeaten Clemson. 4. The SEC champ could be a once beaten team or unbeaten team. 5. Big 12, not likely to have an unbeaten team. 6. Although given some consideration Notre Dame is eliminated.

So Ohio St. Clemson SEC Champ and Pac 10 champ if unbeaten or only one loss. Only an unbeaten Baylor could get in over a one loss Pac 10 champion.

But there is a lot of football left and this could be the year conference champions have 2 losses.
 
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A two loss team, Bama or not its not going to get in. Sorry. There will be at least 4 teams from other conferences with one loss or less that gets in. A one loss? Most likely. Just depends on other teams.
 
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I would like to just take a second and point out that, regardless of how things shake out, isn't it awesome to be having a discussion mid-season about UT's playoff scenario?
 
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I just don't see any way a 2-loss SEC team gets in.

1) Ohio State/Michigan will be in for sure. MSU obviously is worse than we thought and Wisconsin cannot score enough to beat OSU. So it seems like the winner of OSU/MICH will roll into the playoffs easily.

2) Clemson, barring a massive upset against FSU, will roll in rather easily as well. They played their toughest game and won. So that is a second spot. Louisville is still a media darling. Been reading a lot about them today and there seems to be the general thought that two ACC teams could make the playoffs if Lousiville wins out. Barf.

3) Houston controls their own destiny. It's dumb. They play an incredibly weak schedule but they are a win over Lousiville away from rolling to the playoffs with little resistance or fight.

So that leaves one last spot for Washington if they can win out, a 1-loss/No-loss SEC champ, Louisville, one-loss OSU/MICH loser. I just don't see any way even Bama gets in with two losses. So TN's playoff hopes come down to these next two weeks.
 
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LocoVol said:
We were talking about this in another thread and thought It would make for an interesting discussion.

So does a one loss SEC champ make playoffs for sure? or depends on the team? Even if its us with the way we have not gotten respect so far?

Does a two loss SEC team make it in? again depends on who? do we with 2?

Other thoughts?
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1-loss team: depends on the team and who the loss was to (/how bad the loss is seen as).

2-loss team: no they don't make the playoffs unless there's an absolute nightmare scenario of "the best team in every conference has 2 or more losses."

What likely happens is: 2-loss SEC Champ just goes straight to a bid in the Sugar Bowl per its tie-in.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Nope. You are assuming way too much. My guess is even a 1-loss Bama will be higher ranked than a 1-loss Vols SECCG even if Bama doesn't make it to the SECCG. A 2-loss Bama could still get in but you figure the Vols will be heading.
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Actually, that post looks more like it's the one assuming.
 
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Even with higher-than-normal attrition this year among the undefeated teams (only 16 left after just 5 weeks is beyond normal thinning of the ranks), it still looks entirely possible that the ACC and B10 will have an undefeated champion at the end of the year. Say Clemson and Michigan, though Ohio State is almost equally likely.

Add Houston to that mix if they can survive Louisville in November, and three of the four spots are claimed.

That leaves a one-loss SEC Champ in a pretty good spot. But a two-loss SEC Champ would be a tough pick for the Committee, especially if you have a one-loss Ohio State sitting just outside the circle claiming a place, and maybe a one-loss B12 champ in Baylor.

We'd be in a much surer position undefeated or with just one loss, for certain.
 
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I can't remember being so stressed during a season as I am this one.
 
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