UT: Did we over look UCLA or is this the best we have?

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strongtower

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Watching the UCLA game they came and played the best game they could and ended up winning. Now did UT look at what UCLA did against SDU and think hey UCLA has 2 freshman OL and a fresh QB. We will destroy them. Plus After how we destroyed WKU we are going to cruise to UF. Or did UT show up but this is as good as the talent we just have? Was this UCLA game a head to head game which we lost or did we over look them

Another thing is UCLA might just be good, who knows since their qb will be gone now for 3-4 weeks.

I hope to God we just over looked them because Auburn, UGA, S carolina look good now so if this is all we have then another 5 win season might be coming. Lord I hope not.
 
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UT could have won that game with decent QB play. That didn't happen. I didn't see anything that made me think they weren't prepared. Aside from the obvious issue of quarterback, and that was purely him choking in a game.
 
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I have always said good defense beats good offense. The problem there is both teams had good defenses. UCLA coming in, we knew would have a good defense and their offense was weak. What noone counted on was Tennessee making so many offensive screw ups themselves. Problem is, with that QB you have there, it doesnt look like that will be the last of the screw ups.
 
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I agree it was definitely the QB play. But it wasn't only AFTER the fumble in the 2nd quarter. I watched the first drive again and we had two first downs because of penalties (both we were stopped on 3rd down), AND JC missed a wide open target in the end zone and threw it to a defender. We luckily ended up with a FG. The whole team was prepared, except for the guy who has the ball on EVERY SINGLE DOWN. UCLA was not "overlooked".
 
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vollygirl said:
UT could have won that game with decent QB play. That didn't happen. I didn't see anything that made me think they weren't prepared. Aside from the obvious issue of quarterback, and that was purely him choking in a game.
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Unfortunately after watching the game it did look like UT came to play it's just that Crompton had a bad game. Now the question is can Crompton come back or is Stepehens any better.
 
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I seriously hope UT didn't overlook UCLA, considering the pathethic way the game was lost last year.
 
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The defense was prepared, but the offense looked off. The QB play was bad, but the recievers and the O line also seemed to be a little off. I think Lane said something to the effect that some receivers didn't practice all week but still played anyway? Is this true? I can't remember where I heard that. The run game didn't produce as much as we hoped for as well. Just MO.
 
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VolFromNashville said:
The defense was prepared, but the offense looked off. The QB play was bad, but the recievers and the O line also seemed to be a little off. I think Lane said something to the effect that some receivers didn't practice all week but still played anyway? Is this true? I can't remember where I heard that. The run game didn't produce as much as we hoped for as well. Just MO.
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Yeah that is what I saw also. Defense came to play. O-line played like crap and Crompton ran for the hills. I can't say much for the receivers because they were barely thrown to.
 
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Let's just hope we were very limited because we were hiding all of our good stuff from the gator film watchers. Somebody pass me another Orange Koolaid please.
 
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After having my gallon of Kool Aid the week before UCLA i have to say that I was shocked at how our QB played. I know UCLA has a better secondary and Defense than WKu, but I expected our offense to at least look somewhat similiar to the previous week! The 180 from the week before was unbelievable, especially when I thought about the fact that he could have thrown 1/5 of his touchdowns from the previous week and we'd have won that game.

That being said

UT 472
Fla -3
 
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QB play. This staff is not going to overlook an opponent - especially with 1 win in the career column... Can't win with 4 turnovers against a good team - period.
 
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I honestly believe our coaching staff was taken by surprise at how badly he (Crompton) handled the situations he was put in. From now on you will see a limited offense because the coaches cannot trust him to make the reads and throws. They will run the ball to set up quick screens and bubble passes, tight end roll out on play action and quick passes across the middle.

The only problem here is the defense we play against will be looking for it. Every decent team we play will now load up the box and force us to beat them through the air.
 
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We did not overlook UCLA. UCLA is a year ahead of us in implementing the new staff and schemes and the UCLA game exposed some of our weaknesses, QB, line play, learning curve of the new staff with each other and the players adoption of the offense.
 
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How many ways and times is this going to be rehashed?

I was hoping from the title and OP that this thread might actually look at all the factors rather than just the easy way out of pointing at Crompton.

I think the OP asks the $1,000,000 question... and I don't know if it can be answered yet.

Did Crompton play poorly? Well of course he did.... but so did the OL outside of Scott. I mean big ol' McClendon absolutely had his lunch eaten. If Crompton played poorly then I'm not sure how you could even get Jacques on the scale.

Did Jones play poorly? How about the disappearing TE's? How about Moore who dropped one that hit him in the chest at the 3 yard line? How about the Freshmen who also disappeared?

How about Kiffin (which he very nobly acknowledges)? Did he play the right guys at the right time? Did he call the right plays or make the right adjustments?


Had Crompton played decent then UT would have won the game... but these other glaring problems would still be there. OTOH, if McClendon hadn't been getting manhandled then UT wouldn't have become a completely left sided team in the run game. If Jones had run the right routes then we might be talking about Crompton pulling one out of the fire. If Moore had used his hands instead of his chest then we might be talking about how UCLA collapsed after losing the lead.

UCLA is obviously talented enough to push UT and beat them if UT lets it stay tight... What that ultimately says about Crompton, CLK, or UT... is a question yet to be answered.
 
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KB5252 said:
I honestly believe our coaching staff was taken by surprise at how badly he (Crompton) handled the situations he was put in. From now on you will see a limited offense because the coaches cannot trust him to make the reads and throws. They will run the ball to set up quick screens and bubble passes, tight end roll out on play action and quick passes across the middle.
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If CLK takes this approach then he's no better than Fulmer was. JC either needs to start making the plays or make enough mistakes to convince CLK he isn't the best option. Going ultra conservative will only make it worse (witness last year).

The only problem here is the defense we play against will be looking for it. Every decent team we play will now load up the box and force us to beat them through the air.
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You answered your own folly. UT has to be effective in the passing game or "die trying".

FTR, they aren't nearly good enough on the OL to be a "run only" team. You guys keep blaming Crompton alone but you need to go back and focus on guys like McClendon and Sullins.

CLK not only stopped throwing at the end... he pretty much gave up on running to the right side.
 
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sjt18 said:
If CLK takes this approach then he's no better than Fulmer was. JC either needs to start making the plays or make enough mistakes to convince CLK he isn't the best option. Going ultra conservative will only make it worse (witness last year).



You answered your own folly. UT has to be effective in the passing game or "die trying".

FTR, they aren't nearly good enough on the OL to be a "run only" team. You guys keep blaming Crompton alone but you need to go back and focus on guys like McClendon and Sullins.

CLK not only stopped throwing at the end... he pretty much gave up on running to the right side.
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I agree 100%...

Crompton stunk the field up pretty bad but so did half the rest of the offense. The only people who played pretty well is Hardesty and Cooper...
Vlad got beat up, Sullins got beat up, McClendon got beat up, Stocker and Cottam ran lazy routes with no sense of urgency...The WR did the same things as the tight ends only they ran some wrong routes and had drops as well...other times Crompton just missed them running wide open....
Kiffin called a bad game based on what he was seeing on the field...
They can all improve and they should run their a$$'s off for leaving the defense in such a terrible situation all game...
Now if we can come out and correct the little mistakes and have the whole offense get in rhythm we might be ok in some tough games. I believe we have talent but I also believe we have to be more focused in executing the right plays and routes before we get good enough to win big games...
 
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