UT Coaching Staff Changes

[utvols]

After having mediocre seasons the past several years, I think it is high time for some coaching changes again. For a while now, I have felt that Randy Sanders needs to go, and now, I'm not so sure Chavis needs to stick around either. UT seems to be doing less with more talent each year.

Maybe Sanders and Chavis have been around UT too long, and have gotten in a comfort zone where they can't motivate the talented players and position coaches to consistently perform.

I think bringing Trooper Taylor in was a great move, and hopefully Fulmer will continue that this year.

 

[Tnvolfan68]

sorry but if your asking for coaching changes please include all coaches not just those.

 

[kiddiedoc]

No offense, but you're an idiot. I suppose you and your band of second-guessing have-nots could do a better job? Or find a more talented bunch that would find a way to beat Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, and go to the SECCG? Save back-to-back freak injuries, we'd have only lost to Auburn, arguably the best team in the country. All this during a year everyone was expecting us to drop at least 3 games, and maybe as many as 5 or 6.

So now, we lose a game to Notre Dame after both QB's go down, survive a scare from Vandy (albeit to win 22 in a row vs. the 'Dores), and you're wanting to pick apart the coaching staff.

If I were you, I'd spare us all and fire myself from ever posting polls again.

uke:

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Nov 22, 2004 1:11 PM
No offense, but you're an idiot.

lol: lol: lol:

Nothing like sugar coating it . . .

 

[utvols]

Originally posted by kiddiedoc+Nov 22, 2004 1:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kiddiedoc &#064; Nov 22, 2004 1:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> No offense, but you&#39;re an idiot. I suppose you and your band of second-guessing have-nots could do a better job? Or find a more talented bunch that would find a way to beat Alabama, Georgia, and Florida, and go to the SECCG? Save back-to-back freak injuries, we&#39;d have only lost to Auburn, arguably the best team in the country. All this during a year everyone was expecting us to drop at least 3 games, and maybe as many as 5 or 6.

So now, we lose a game to Notre Dame after both QB&#39;s go down, survive a scare from Vandy (albeit to win 22 in a row vs. the &#39;Dores), and you&#39;re wanting to pick apart the coaching staff.

You left out back-to-back Peach Bowl losses to two lackluster ACC teams... Clemson and Maryland, and the rapid decline of the running game at UT ever since Coach Cutcliffe left for Ole Miss.

If you think that means I am an idiot, then you must believe Randy Sanders is also a professor of mathematical physics at UT preparing to publish a new article in the Journal of Astrophysics and Astronomy. If you think that believing UT would do well by some coaching changes qualifies one as being an idiot, then you should give up any further attempts at mental reasoning in the future. Why am I not surprised you do not want any staff changes?

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Wish... not granted. I created another poll with all the coaches listed.

 

[BHAMVOLFAN]

Wish... not granted.

Too Damn Bad

:bad:

 

[kiddiedoc]

Originally posted by utvols@Nov 22, 2004 1:21 PM
Why am I not surprised you do not want any staff changes?

It&#39;s not so much that I don&#39;t want any staff changes, I just don&#39;t want a 6-5 season. Truth is, we&#39;re winning games, and we&#39;re winning games we weren&#39;t "supposed" to win, and we&#39;re winning with new ways all the time.

See, it seems to me that an awful lot of people do an awful lot of griping when they shouldn&#39;t. What were your preseason predictions? SEC? National champs? Of course not. But, the staff has made this squad into quite a team this year, even with countless changes (and dismissals. . .) on defense, going with 2 freshman quarterbacks, O-line injuries, etc.

Fine, people are upset at the ND loss. Tough break. Look, we were up, lost Ainge, and the Defense was carrying us with the exception of a bad mistake by a third-string QB. That&#39;s life in football.

So, we move forward, keep things simple offensively with Clausen in there -- and that&#39;s probably going to mean a lot of people complaining about the play calling. Probably the same people that fussed a couple of weeks ago at the ballsy call at the end of the half.

As for me, I like 9-2 seasons, especially ones that begin with so many questions as this one. I like beating Florida. I like beating Georgia. I LOVE beating Bama. I like SEC championship games. And if we win (and don&#39;t think that&#39;s out of the question -- if you do, then you do not know this team), I like BCS bowls.

I really wasn&#39;t trying to make you mad, I just get tired of this coaching criticism week in and week out.

eace:

 

[volmanjr]

what he said

 

[utvols]

See, it seems to me that an awful lot of people do an awful lot of griping when they shouldn&#39;t.  What were your preseason predictions?  SEC?  National champs?  Of course not.  But, the staff has made this squad into quite a team this year, even with countless changes (and dismissals. . .) on defense, going with 2 freshman quarterbacks, O-line injuries, etc.

No doubt, CPF&#39;s staff has done a great job this year considering everything, but as whole, since Sanders took over from Cutcliffe, the theme has been "do less with more." I didn&#39;t have any predictions for this season, or any seasons recently, because we have been so unpredictable. We have the talent year in and year out to be national title contenders, but will the coaches and the team get the job done? Will we get bit by the injury bug?

Fine, people are upset at the ND loss.  Tough break.  Look, we were up, lost Ainge, and the Defense was carrying us with the exception of a bad mistake by a third-string QB.  That&#39;s life in football.

I was not really upset with the ND loss. We had to put in our 3rd string QB. He made a costly mistake. We lost. I was glad it was not an SEC game. I have been upset that the past few years have not been like they should have been with the talent that we have in those orange and white uniforms. I am still upset about the 2001 SECCG.

As for me, I like 9-2 seasons, especially ones that begin with so many questions as this one.  I like beating Florida.  I like beating Georgia.  I LOVE beating Bama.  I like SEC championship games.  And if we win (and don&#39;t think that&#39;s out of the question -- if you do, then you do not know this team), I like BCS bowls.

I like national championships, and I think UT usually has the talent to contend. I think we have the talent to beat Auburn, win the SEC and get a nice BCS bowl.

I really wasn&#39;t trying to make you mad, I just get tired of this coaching criticism week in and week out.

eace:

I just wanted to generate some discussion. I&#39;m fairly new to the board, and this was my first attempt at a poll. I screwed it up and wished I could have edited it to include a few more choices, including "no staff changes".

eace:

 

[Z06Vol]

Read into it all you want but Tennessee has had a very, very lucky year. I think it&#39;s great they have won all the games they have, but we could very easily have 5 or 6 losses by now. Also, calling someone an idiot just because he or she states their opinion is a bit overboard.

 

[donsargegolf]

Tennessee only won one game it, on paper, should not have won. The coaches job is to "coach players up." This does not happen at our place. Kiddiedoc doesn&#39;t want a 6-5 season but is afraid to make the needed changes to win 12 or 13 games. There is a reason the coaches poll has us always lower than the writers, they KNOW the truth. Until people like kiddiedoc learn we lose ONLY because of coaching, raarely lack of talent, this will not change. And also kd, coach Chavis has given us the defenses we have because of good coaching and proper in game adjustments. The Vandy game was the FIRST game where we did not get better throughout the course of the game because he was trying to save some injured players. The talent level on defense is well off where it has been and I know this is not true on offense. After ten weeks of preaching this, plus three previous RS years, I am glad some other people are beginning to see this also.( amen utvols, we do have the talent and poorly use it. We cannot be content with a 9-2 slate when we can do so much better) (( how about our kickoff return and punt return game also. I have not seen a return formation or wall set up in two years))

 

[BHAMVOLFAN]

but we could very easily have 5 or 6 losses by now. Also, calling someone an idiot just because he or she states their opinion is a bit overboard.

We have 2 losses, your point is worthless.
If you don&#39;t want someone complaining about your complaining, don&#39;t complain. It&#39;s that simple.

You guys just don&#39;t get the meaning of competitive sports. Each week, these group of guys get together to practice for the purpose of beating the competition. Style points do not count in football or any other team sport. These sports are about which team has the character, guts, determination, heart to beat the other team. Those attributes mean much more than how many 1st downs, how many dropped passes, how many run vs. passing plays, what Steve Spurrier will do at USC or Meyer at FL. When it is all said and done, the best TEAM usually wins. Without those human characteristics, you always loose. Coach Fulmer is THE BEST at teaching the life lessons it takes to win as a TEAM.

Sarge and UTVols, it is sad that you guys never had the opportunity to learn what playing on a true team is all about. Your posts are dead give-aways to your lack of understanding of competition and what it takes to be a winner. These lessons, unlearned unfortunately, apply to real life as well.

 

[donsargegolf]

Bhamvolfan- Glad you know so much about my competitive history, teams I played on or been associated with. When you HAVE competed, BEEN on winning teams and watch our kids play with so much effort only to get improper coaching direction is what causes responses like you are getting. When you compete you don&#39;t just say we won, move on. You evaluate your performance and learn how to improve. We, Tennessee, have a lot of improving to do on the offensive side of the ball. ( and when the coaching improves I&#39;m sure the complaing will as well)

 

[BHAMVOLFAN]

YOUR posts give away your lack of having "what it takes". As I said if you don&#39;t want people to complain about your complaining the it is time for YOU to quit complaining.

 

[Z06Vol]

Originally posted by BHAMVOLFAN@Nov 22, 2004 7:57 PM
We have 2 losses, your point is worthless.
If you don&#39;t want someone complaining about your complaining, don&#39;t complain. It&#39;s that simple.

If you don&#39;t think luck has anything to do with our success this season, then you need a reality check. Yes, the team has tons of heart, along with talent, but luck has played a very heavy role this year as well as it does for any contending NC team. Why not ask our 98 NC team that question? With only two losses it makes your orange shades that much more orange tainted. If those close games would have swung the other way, which very well could have happend, I&#39;m sure you&#39;d feel much different.

 

[Freak]

Not to be a downer but remember the board rules about name calling.

 

[donsargegolf]

I did not post the poll on coaches. Why don&#39;t you explain to me why we use zone blocking while rushing the football or no longer set up blocking schemes or lanes for kick-off returns and punt returns? Then you can clear up alot of questions.

 

[utvols]

Originally posted by BHAMVOLFAN@Nov 22, 2004 7:57 PM
Sarge and UTVols, it is sad that you guys never had the opportunity to learn what playing on a true team is all about. Your posts are dead give-aways to your lack of understanding of competition and what it takes to be a winner. These lessons, unlearned unfortunately, apply to real life as well.

Seems obvious to me that you have the lessons to learn. Its not about winning and moving on, but about everybody doing their best for a common goal and getting better. Its also not about just accepting the established leadership just because of a winning or above-average record.

 

[donsargegolf]

Thanks for your post utvols it is obvious you have knowledge about the game and the process it takes to improve even after a victory. You have posted 2 of the most knowledgeable posts I&#39;ve read this year. Not only do we do oh so little with our offensive talent.... our OC does not know what to do with the talent he has. Zone blocking while rushing? And through 5 years he still can&#39;t figure out how to bust up 8-9 man fronts. A SEASON IS NOT SIMPLY MEASURED BY VICTORIES.

 

[allvol]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 22, 2004 8:50 PM
A SEASON IS NOT SIMPLY MEASURED BY VICTORIES.

What far off world do you live in?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Originally posted by allvol+Nov 22, 2004 10:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (allvol @ Nov 22, 2004 10:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-donsargegolf@Nov 22, 2004 8:50 PM
A SEASON IS NOT SIMPLY MEASURED BY VICTORIES.

What far off world do you live in? [/quote]
I guess a better yardstick would be "Band Performance" or "Concession Sales?"

"Winning isn&#39;t everything, it&#39;s the ONLY thing."

 

[volmanjr]

if a season is not measured by wins why are we preaching on getting to 12 and 13 wins you said yourself on paper we should be 5-6 not 9-2 so who gets the credit for that .... luck, talent, players desire and heart, or coaching? I think it is a combination of all , we are blessed with lots of talent on the team as well as the staff but so are most other programs in college football maybe we need to learn to be content with the best this program can offer even if it doesn&#39;t always meet expectations...perfection is a hard attribute to attain for anyone.

 

[volmanjr]

I&#39;m sorry you said we only one 1 game that we should have won on paper so did the coaches not "coach them up" to win the ones we weren&#39;t supposed to win?

 

[Vol67]

Slade, Sanders, Stephens and Washington.

 

[JohnsonCityVol]

I chose Chavis simply because of the many defensive breakdowns over the years. I can&#39;t remember the years, but the LSU game where Suggs threw for 400 yards, the UGA game where they drove the length of the field and Green faced no pressure in the last 90 seconds to win in Knoxville, the phantom catch by Jabbar Gaffney for UF on a drive in the last 5 minutes of the game, the complete lack of defense in the 2nd half against SoCar and Vandy this year, and above all, the fact that in the last 10 years we simply do not form tackle at all. The first man to the ball always misses the tackle. Every year, every defensive player from UT is scouted for the draft and to a man they all contain the same top concern: Needs to vastly improve form tackling.