UT can finish 5-3 in SEC. That's progress

#28
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tvolsfan said:
If Butch finishes 9-4 with a 5-3 record in conference play, he'll have gotten us as far as James Franklin got Vanderbilt in two seasons. But yes, it would technically be progress.
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Plus Jones just accomplished a close loss against Bama. Kiffin did it in year one, and it took Jones three, but, hey, more progress, technically.

Wonder how many games Franklin blew with poor clock management, a faulty conversion chart, weak play calling, and analytics?
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Kentucky is definitely my biggest concern moving forward. They are another team that is better than their record might indicate. They are good enough to beat us if we play poorly and the game is in Lexington.

I've been worried about Mizzou all season. I keep expecting them to get better and their defense has played great all season, but their offense has never really clicked. Tough playing in Columbia in November, but I feel like we should win that game. They haven't put up more than 13 points against an SEC opponent all year. They scored 13 against UK, 10 against South Carolina, 6 against UGA, and 3 against Vandy. Those are just some ugly numbers right there and South Carolina's defense isn't even that good.

Actually, outside of Kentucky, I'm most worried about Vanderbilt at this point. Vanderbilt always seems to overachieve against us. Their offense has struggled, but their defense is extremely good. If our offense goes cold, we could struggle with them. They have played almost every team close this season.
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I thought the same thing about Ky, but after watching our game yest & their game last night, I am not that worried. I def think it will be closer than last year, but I think Tn is still going to win. An 8-4 record is def possible this year. If the Vols continue to play the way they did yesterday, it should be no problem. They just can't let it come down to a field goal.
 
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99gator said:
How's this SEC schedule any different? 4 wins are automatic.
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Well for one thing TN plays Bama every year. And for some reason we always catch the other West opponent when they are up. we don't get AU in their 4-8 year, we get them in the rebound 11-1 year. Bad luck of the draw I guess.

Franklin beat something like 4 teams that finished with an above.500 record in 3 years. Butch Jones surpassed that in year one. Vandy didn't play a quality OoC opponent the entire time Franklin was there either.

Jones has dropped his fair share of winnable games. Quite honestly he should be no worse than 2-1 if not 3-0 vs FL right now. I'm not ready to crown him be any means. My point is these tired surface comparisons to Dooley, Freeze, Franklin etc are just dumb.
 
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99gator said:
This will be the last season where people will question the talent at the skill positions at Florida.

The cavalry is coming.
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You're a good dude, 99, but you're wrong.

Still won't have it next year.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Well for one thing TN plays Bama every year. And for some reason we always catch the other West opponent when they are up. we don't get AU in their 4-8 year, we get them in the rebound 11-1 year. Bad luck of the draw I guess.

Franklin beat something like 4 teams that finished with an above.500 record in 3 years. Butch Jones surpassed that in year one. Vandy didn't play a quality OoC opponent the entire time Franklin was there either.

Jones has dropped his fair share of winnable games. Quite honestly he should be no worse than 2-1 if not 3-0 vs FL right now. I'm not ready to crown him be any means. My point is these tired surface comparisons to Dooley, Freeze, Franklin etc are just dumb.
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I'm just being real here.

I'm looking at Florida honestly staring 11-1 in the face. If they pull it off, there isn't going to be any Earth shattering win in the bunch.

Here's what folks would say about the "quality" wins.

FSU- bloated record thanks to the ACC.

Georgia- would be a 3 loss team at minimum. What would their accomplishment be on the year.

Tennessee- is a 4 loss team minimum. Their big win is Georgia, who didn't beat anyone themselves.

Ole Miss- Yeah, they beat Bama. But, is this really the best win of the bunch? A team that lost to Memphis.


Arkansas at home is as schedule friendly an SEC West opponent as you could ask for.

I get Tennessee plays Oklahoma and Vandy played no one non-conference, but it's Vandy. And the one thing we know is that every time Vandy went out on the field in an SEC game, the other team had way, way more talent.

That's not true of Tennessee.
 
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CA_Vol said:
With only 1 win worth a damn. That's not progress. We wasted a huge opportunity this year to fill the vacuum in the East. Now we will see if a well coached and overachieving UF does so.
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And that one win you speak of that worth a damn was against an overrated UGA team that lost their very best player on the first play of the game. It also took a miracle punt bounce to keep UGA out of the end zone on the last drive, otherwise it would have been another choke-job.
 
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99gator said:
I'm just being real here.

I'm looking at Florida honestly staring 11-1 in the face. If they pull it off, there isn't going to be any Earth shattering win in the bunch.

Here's what folks would say about the "quality" wins.

FSU- bloated record thanks to the ACC.

Georgia- would be a 3 loss team at minimum. What would their accomplishment be on the year.

Tennessee- is a 4 loss team minimum. Their big win is Georgia, who didn't beat anyone themselves.

Ole Miss- Yeah, they beat Bama. But, is this really the best win of the bunch? A team that lost to Memphis.


Arkansas at home is as schedule friendly an SEC West opponent as you could ask for.

I get Tennessee plays Oklahoma and Vandy played no one non-conference, but it's Vandy. And the one thing we know is that every time Vandy went out on the field in an SEC game, the other team had way, way more talent.

That's not true of Tennessee.
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Fair enough... But FL isn't that far removed from actual success. TN has been a dumpster fire since 2008. So to point of the thread, ending the UGA streak and finishing with a winning SEC record is a good bit of progress. It's upward momentum.
 
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bellevue said:
And that one win you speak of that worth a damn was against an overrated UGA team that lost their very best player on the first play of the game. It also took a miracle punt bounce to keep UGA out of the end zone on the last drive, otherwise it would have been another choke-job.
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It's cool how you used your window into a parallel dimension to where UGA had Chubb and got to start their last drive on the 25 so TN lost the game.

Are Bama fans complaining about our missed FGs today?
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Fair enough... But FL isn't that far removed from actual success. TN has been a dumpster fire since 2008. So to point of the thread, ending the UGA streak and finishing with a winning SEC record is a good bit of progress. It's upward momentum.
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Eh. Once you get past 2011 its irrelevant how bad they were before that.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
It's cool how you used your window into a parallel dimension to where UGA had Chubb and got to start their last drive on the 25 so TN lost the game.

Are Bama fans complaining about our missed FGs today?
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Bama fans that have any sense about them aren't holding last night's game up as any sign of doing well. The loss of Chubb was devastating. You're silly if you think that it wasn't and that it doesn't make that win less impressive.
 
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apkvol said:
About 15 D-1 signees from what I've heard.
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Something like that.

And there's D-1 and then there's D-1. Most of the dudes are not getting offers from Central Michigan and Wyoming.

They are getting offers from schools that expect to win championships
 
#45
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99gator said:
IMG Academy in Bradenton, FL, would have 2 or 3 SEC wins this season if they were in the East
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Is that where they send all the other tards? Because your post is tarded. Maybe that's your alma mater. Took the short bus to school, obviously.
 
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bellevue said:
Bama fans that have any sense about them aren't holding last night's game up as any sign of doing well. The loss of Chubb was devastating. You're silly if you think that it wasn't and that it doesn't make that win less impressive.
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Sure it hurt them. They lost him on play one but still went up 24-3 and had a pretty good day on the ground even without him. Had he played the while game there is no guarantee of a TN loss.

I'll never understand some "fans" mentality that make excuses for our opponents loss.
 
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CA_Vol said:
With only 1 win worth a damn. That's not progress. We wasted a huge opportunity this year to fill the vacuum in the East. Now we will see if a well coached and overachieving UF does so.
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Do you ever stop complaining? I swear you're a broken record and don't bring a meaningful post to this board.....
 
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