UT/ BAMA Rivalry

#76
#76
gnm53108 said:
There is no way I could say how much I disagree with this.

Beat bama!
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so beating Bama is your only concern? How about an SEC championship? What about a NC? Those dont mean anything?? dont be so naive.

Example: Tennessee ends the season 11-1. What does that mean for them?

Bama: if the loss is to Bama, then that means they beat all their SEC opponents with their next game being the SECCG in Atlanta. Win that and its a BCS game if not the NC game. Lose and a BCS game is probable.

Florida: if the loss is to Florida and Florida runs the table or is 11-1 also, it means no SECCG. It also means that a BCS is a very remote possibility but more than likely an invite to the Citrus Bowl. Big whoop.

Lets see..... a BCS game possible NC or Orlando possibly Atlanta. Humm....not a real hard decision there.
 
#77
#77
GreveHaller said:
so beating Bama is your only concern? How about an SEC championship? What about a NC? Those dont mean anything?? dont be so naive.

Example: Tennessee ends the season 11-1. What does that mean for them?

Bama: if the loss is to Bama, then that means they beat all their SEC opponents with their next game being the SECCG in Atlanta. Win that and its a BCS game if not the NC game. Lose and a BCS game is probable.

Florida: if the loss is to Florida and Florida runs the table or is 11-1 also, it means no SECCG. It also means that a BCS is a very remote possibility but more than likely an invite to the Citrus Bowl. Big whoop.

Lets see..... a BCS game possible NC or Orlando possibly Atlanta. Humm....not a real hard decision there.
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11-1,sec champions,and bcs games all would be fantastic...I would just NEVER concede a loss to bama. I would NEVER say I wouldnt mind if we lose to bama if we "whatever".

We can go into that game undefeated or winless and I would still say beat bama.
 
#78
#78
GreveHaller said:
so beating Bama is your only concern? How about an SEC championship? What about a NC? Those dont mean anything?? dont be so naive.

Example: Tennessee ends the season 11-1. What does that mean for them?

Bama: if the loss is to Bama, then that means they beat all their SEC opponents with their next game being the SECCG in Atlanta. Win that and its a BCS game if not the NC game. Lose and a BCS game is probable.

Florida: if the loss is to Florida and Florida runs the table or is 11-1 also, it means no SECCG. It also means that a BCS is a very remote possibility but more than likely an invite to the Citrus Bowl. Big whoop.

Lets see..... a BCS game possible NC or Orlando possibly Atlanta. Humm....not a real hard decision there.
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Beating Florida is important, but you're original comment was you'd be okay losing to Bama every year with a win over Florida every year.

No Vols fan should be okay with that.
 
#79
#79
tvolsfan said:
Beating Florida is important, but you're original comment was you'd be okay losing to Bama every year with a win over Florida every year. No Vols fan should be okay with that.
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IF (and that's a big) the loss to Bama gave us a win over Florida every year. I said I'd take one for the other.

When they split divisions they changed the course of the rivarly. A loss to UF is 1.5 but a loss to Bama is only 1. Win against Bama and lose to UF means you have to hope and pray 2 more SEC opponents beat UF (and we dont lose any either). Beat Bama and lose to UF and we're still up on UF.

Its not that difficult to figure out.
 
#80
#80
I don't give a damn about split divisions. I don't see how a fan of any team would be fine with losing to their biggest rival every year.
 
#82
#82
bamawriter said:
Given that we hired him six years after Neyland coached his last game, that seems like a rather strange reason for Bryant's hiring.

Try Google before you try sounding intellectually superior by posting something that can easily be verified as false.
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Sorry, I have heard that exact same statement from 3 (what I assumed to be knowledgeable) Bama fans. I didn't think it necessary to question them since all three are 50 or better. In hindsight I see your point in trusting the intellect of the genetically inferior gene that causes someone to be a bammer in the first place. My apologies...
 
#83
#83
yeah, I live in Alabama. Not too far from T-town. The Bama/Auburn game is bigger here than the UT/Bama game. This whole state gets insane about the Iron Bowl. This whole place shuts down for it. But, the Bama/UT game is still more important to me though.
 
#84
#84
tvolsfan said:
I don't give a damn about split divisions. I don't see how a fan of any team would be fine with losing to their biggest rival every year.
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because they're not.........UF is the biggest rival. Not by choice but by necessity. It benefits us MORE to beat UF than it benefits us to be Bama.

How is this so hard to comprehend??
 
#85
#85
GreveHaller said:
because they're not.........UF is the biggest rival. Not by choice but by necessity. It benefits us MORE to beat UF than it benefits us to be Bama.

How is this so hard to comprehend??
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biggest rival and most important conf game can be 2 completely different things
 
#87
#87
tvolsfan said:
Because the bold is wrong.
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sorry but you're wrong. If this was pre SEC split days, you're dead on right. They split the divisions and split UT and Bama. T

he reason UT and Bama was a bigger rivarly was that the winner had the inside track to winning the SEC. Over the years other teams might have risen and fallen but there was a good chance UT or Bama was going to compete for the title.

Enter the 90s and split divisions. Now the road to the SEC title didnt go thru Knoxville or Tusc. It took winning your division first then winning in the SECCG. UT v Bama was fun for ol' time sake but its doesnt carry the weight like playing UF, Ga, or even USC these days.

Do I want to lose to Bama? no friggin' way. Would I take a loss to them for a win over UF? Every single year. Good chance we'd take revenge on them in the SECCG too.

Gotta look at the big picture not just the one game picture.
 
#91
#91
we dont know because the Big whatever hasnt even began their divisional play yet. Lets look at it again a few years down the pike to see where that OSU v Mich game plays as opposed to a OSU v PSU or Mich v MSU.
 
#93
#93
VolDC said:
Sorry, I have heard that exact same statement from 3 (what I assumed to be knowledgeable) Bama fans. I didn't think it necessary to question them since all three are 50 or better. In hindsight I see your point in trusting the intellect of the genetically inferior gene that causes someone to be a bammer in the first place. My apologies...
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Ah, so Bama fans aren't smart enough to know the fake history you posted before, but now the fake history was made up by knowledgable Bama fans?

Makes sense.
 
#94
#94
GreveHaller said:
we dont know because the Big whatever hasnt even began their divisional play yet. Lets look at it again a few years down the pike to see where that OSU v Mich game plays as opposed to a OSU v PSU or Mich v MSU.
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A few young OSU fans may say PSU is bigger, but the vast majority of OSU fans will still consider Michigan the big rivalry game, because it is.
 
#96
#96
i know i definitely think the auburn/alabama game is much bigger than the tennessee/alabama game. those are two very elite programs in the same state battling it out. it's way bigger than an elite program playing a middle of the pack fbs team. no offense.
 
#97
#97
Grizfan said:
i know i definitely think the auburn/alabama game is much bigger than the tennessee/alabama game. those are two very elite programs in the same state battling it out. it's way bigger than an elite program playing a middle of the pack fbs team. no offense.
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Auburn is not elite and if you don't understand the 3rd Saturday in October then you probably shouldn't judge
 
#98
#98
boomer020 said:
Just met an Auburn fan that tried to tell me that the Barn and BAMA rivalry was more important than the UT/BAMA rivalry. I of course told him differently. He argued that the in state added more to the importance. I was just curious to what Volnation thought.
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Your friend was right. Tennessee's only rivalry is really Vandy. Ga has GT, Florida has ga/LSU, bama has auburn. We have Vandy.
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#99
#99
UT/Bama has always been a classy rivalry (or at least it was until the Fulmer/Bama crap happened). Bama and AU just hate each other.

If you poll most Bama fans, they'll probably say Auburn. Purely because they're in-state. A lot of older ones would probably say the TSiO.
 
#100
#100
utvolpj said:
Auburn is not elite and if you don't understand the 3rd Saturday in October then you probably shouldn't judge
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auburn is certainly much more elite than tennessee, so i'm still right. i understand that the tennessee game is not as big a game. just not a clash of elite programs like the other game.
 
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