UT/Bama game discussion (split)

[the.one.the.only]

Maybe he would thought to himself, "Gee, my kicker has missed one field goal and had another blocked today. Maybe I should use the 45 seconds left on the clock to try to get closer or maybe even get a touchdown."

Maybe his cloudy thoughts were due to not enough sleep or too much booze....while he didn't miss the field goal, he certainly did not give the Vols the greatest chance to win the game based on the previous events of the day...

That's one thing that's bugged me since the bama game. WTF was he thinking? I know he gave us that sorry excuse "Well I didn't want the refs doing anything...." or whatever, but my God run it up the middle and get us a few more yards. It makes absolutely no sense trying to kick a 52 yarder if you still get closer.

 

[hatvol96]

Maybe he would thought to himself, "Gee, my kicker has missed one field goal and had another blocked today. Maybe I should use the 45 seconds left on the clock to try to get closer or maybe even get a touchdown."

Maybe his cloudy thoughts were due to not enough sleep or too much booze....while he didn't miss the field goal, he certainly did not give the Vols the greatest chance to win the game based on the previous events of the day...

Maybe Crompton throws the ball to an Alabama defensive back and that's how the game ends. Then, you could tell us all how Kiffin's bout with Popov kept him from exercising the obvious option of kicking a field goal.

 

[the.one.the.only]

Maybe Crompton throws the ball to an Alabama defensive back and that's how the game ends. Then, you could tell us all how Kiffin's bout with Popov kept him from exercising the obvious option of kicking a field goal.

Maybe, since you know our line can't hold up long enough to keep these guys out of the backfield, you take that chance to get close enough for Lincoln to actually get the ball over the line of scrimmage. It was a busch league move, one that a coach using UT for "on the job training" would make.

 

[britlee4ut]

Maybe Crompton throws the ball to an Alabama defensive back and that's how the game ends. Then, you could tell us all how Kiffin's bout with Popov kept him from exercising the obvious option of kicking a field goal.

Well, considering that Crompton had just proven that he could drive down the field and score a touchdown and our kicker had not proven that he could make a field goal, I think the obvious choice for most intelligent coaches would be to go with what has been proven effective.

 

[hatvol96]

Well, considering that Crompton had just proven that he could drive down the field and score a touchdown and our kicker had not proven that he could make a field goal, I think the obvious choice for most intelligent coaches would be to go with what has been proven effective.

Yeah, we had scored a bunch of touchdowns that day. Crompton looked like Drew Brees. The fact Alabama was in a prevent defense during that drive had nothing to do with it.

 

[the.one.the.only]

Yeah, we had scored a bunch of touchdowns that day. Crompton looked like Drew Brees. The fact Alabama was in a prevent defense during that drive had nothing to do with it.

Let me get this straight. So you're saying that forfeiting any chance to get closer while relying on our Walk-On O-Line to hold up long enough for Lincoln to get the ball high enough to kick a 50 plus yarder was the right choice? Any idiot would've known that line wasn't going to hold. Hell, it hadn't the time before that, in the same freaking game. No way any coach worth his weight doesn't use that opportunity to try and help his kicker out.

 

[BIGBUM]

Exactly and they were still in the prevent. Go get ten more yards and kick the effing field goal!!!

 

[hatvol96]

Exactly and they were still in the prevent. Go get ten more yards and kick the effing field goal!!!

Yeah, Saban and Kirby Smart were just going to lay back and give Tennessee ten more yards. Hell, we should have thrown it into the endzone. They probably wouldn't have bothered to defend that.

 

[TOP]

Yeah, Saban and Kirby Smart were just going to lay back and give Tennessee ten more yards. Hell, we should have thrown it into the endzone. They probably wouldn't have bothered to defend that.

Because Nick Saban does as he pleases and can't be out coached. He only scored 12 points on purpose.

:swoon3:

I am convinced you argue just to argue. If the fans are positive about something, you're negative. If the fans are negative about something, you're positive. I don't know what happened to you growing up but there is something seriously wrong with you.

 

[the.one.the.only]

Hatvol, you are 100% wrong on this. No amount of name calling or any other random "oh yeah! Well..." will make you any less wrong.

 

[BIGBUM]

Yeah, Saban and Kirby Smart were just going to lay back and give Tennessee ten more yards. Hell, we should have thrown it into the endzone. They probably wouldn't have bothered to defend that.

Not saying they would give up but you can't argue at that point in the game we did seem to have them on their heels a little bit .No?

 

[Tenacious D]

Maybe Crompton throws the ball to an Alabama defensive back and that's how the game ends. Then, you could tell us all how Kiffin's bout with Popov kept him from exercising the obvious option of kicking a field goal.

So, you're predicating your counter-argument on the contingency that, quite literally, anything else could have possibly happened, if another play had been ran?

Classic.

What if an earthquake occurred while Crompton was attempting to hand off, and the ball bounded down the field into Alabama's endzone as a result of the seismic shift? What if martians had landed?

Here's a good, "what-if" for you?

What if your life depended on Lincoln making that field goal? Would you prefer that it be kicked from 32 or 52 yards away?

Perhaps Kiffin's failure to grasp the concept that a field goal from a shorter distance is more likely to be made than another from a further distance, is both best and most kindly attributed to his alleged abuse of drugs and alcohol. That's certainly better than the other obvious choice - that he was a fool.

In fact, perhaps it provides an apt excuse for others suffering with similiar mental deficiencies, and who find themselves unable to successfully navigate such a simplistic concept.

 

[hatvol96]

Not saying they would give up but you can't argue at that point in the game we did seem to have them on their heels a little bit .No?

I wouldn't have had a problem with trying to get 10 more yards. I didn't have a problem with letting the clock run and kicking the field goal. A competent D-I kicker hits that one more often than not.

 

[the.one.the.only]

I wouldn't have had a problem with trying to get 10 more yards. I didn't have a problem with letting the clock run and kicking the field goal. A competent D-I kicker hits that one more often than not.

Well our competent D-I kicker had a couple of walk ons trying to block a 350 lb all american.

 

[TOP]

I wouldn't have had a problem with trying to get 10 more yards. I didn't have a problem with letting the clock run and kicking the field goal. A competent D-I kicker hits that one more often than not.

You must have missed last nights game when Nate Kaeding missed a couple of 35-45 yard kicks. He made 21 in a row and I believe won the award for being the best kicker in the country while at Iowa. But yes, there are 61 kickers every year in college football that would make a 44 yard kick with the game on the line. NFL kickers must really suck.

 

[the.one.the.only]

1. If have him on ignore, your smilie laden quoting of his post is the only reason I see it.
2. If you people want to live in some dream world where Kiffin coached the Alabama game in such a haze that he couldn't differentiate between 32 and 52 yards, have at it.

That's great hat, and I'm sure you have me on ignore as well, but that doesn't make you ANY LESS WRONG.

 

[Tenacious D]

How dare you imply Kid Gynomite would ever be in public with a woman not his wife or mother? Coach Doofus is a candidate for sainthood. Why must you sully his candidacy?

Say what you will about Hat, but its clear from this statement that he takes an objective approach in the careful process of formulating his opinions of others. This is further evidenced in his awarding Coach Dooley with the endearing nickname of, "Coach Doofus".

If Coach Dooley has proven one thing thus far, it's that he's a "doofus" - on that much, I am certain that we can all agree.

I do like the fallacious nature of your argument....if it's reasonable to assume that Kiffin would be in public with a woman who was neither his wife or mother, clearly, these other allegations must be untrue.

I would expect a far more substantive argument from a criminal defense attorney, Hat, and not the caricature you've seemed to become.

 

[hatvol96]

You must have missed last nights game when Nate Kaeding missed a couple of 35-45 yard kicks. He made 21 in a row and I believe won the award for being the best kicker in the country while at Iowa. But yes, there are 61 kickers every year in college football that would make a 44 yard kick with the game on the line. NFL kickers must really suck.

That logic proves you are really young or really not bright. I'll leave it to you to decide. Since you appear to love to make attempts to take the specific and give it broad significance, how did Texsucks' kicker do an a kick similar to Lincoln's at the end of the Big 12 title game?

 

[the.one.the.only]

Say what you will about Hat, but its clear from this statement that he takes an objective approach in the careful process of formulating his opinions of others. This is further evidenced in his awarding Coach Dooley with the endearing nickname of, "Coach Doofus".

If Coach Dooley has proven one thing thus far, it's that he's a "doofus" - on that much, I am certain that we can all agree.

I do like the fallacious nature of your argument....if it's reasonable to assume that Kiffin would be in public with a woman who was neither his wife or mother, clearly, these other allegations must be untrue.

I would expect a far more substantive argument from a criminal defense attorney, Hat, and not the caricature you've seemed to become.

Must be drunk on vodka and ambien. lol

 

[homemommy]

1. If have him on ignore, your smilie laden quoting of his post is the only reason I see it.
2. If you people want to live in some dream world where Kiffin coached he Alabama game in such a haze that he couldn't differentiate between 32 and 52 yards, have at it.

Personally, I couldn't care less what Kiffin did that day. It's over. We lost...they won.

The only reason I posted a response was because ALL of your posts are down right vitriolic. Do you ever agree with anyone?

What exactly do you like about the Vols...so far I haven't read anything in your posts that suggest you enjoy anything about Tennessee football.

Please...do tell.

 

[BIGBUM]

I wouldn't have had a problem with trying to get 10 more yards. I didn't have a problem with letting the clock run and kicking the field goal. A competent D-I kicker hits that one more often than not.

The problem I had was Kiffins later quote when he said that our kicker was still not 100% from his quad injury. Knowing that he has no exuse!!!

 

[TOP]

That logic proves you are really young or really not bright. I'll leave it to you to decide. Since you appear to love to make attempts to take the specific and give it broad significance, how did Texsucks' kicker do an a kick similar to Lincoln's at the end of the Big 12 title game?

That's one kicker. You said division one kickers make it more often than not. There are 120 schools so 61 kickers should make a 44 yard kick with the game on the line. That is what you said.

Probably younger than you. Hence not spending my life on a message board. If age actually mattered, you wouldn't use immature words like Texsucks, Lame, Fulmerite, Tanningbed and the list goes on. My 10 year old nephew coins similar terms and has a riot with them.

 

[TOP]

Good job leaving the word "competent" out of my statement. Had I said "most D-I kickers," your point would be correct. Alas, as usual, you are wrong. I'm sure you are used to that by now.

Which implies some of the best NFL kickers aren't competent. If you truly believe that then it is you who is incompetent. I just pointed out how Nate Kaeding made 21 in a row and won the Lou Groza award. That is one incompetent kicker according to you based off last night. He sucks!

 

[hatvol96]

In the Big 12 game, there was 2 seconds on the clock. In the UT Bama game, there was 45 seconds that we could have used to get the ball closer. Not the same thing.

The amount of time left has an effect on the probability the kicker will make the kick?

 

[BigHerm3000]

Imagine what that says about a coach who has never gone past the Sweet 16.

in 12 years