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#54
I appreciate our policemen that put their life on the line for us daily.I don't appreciate that palms are greased to allow the drugs in.I also appreciate our public school teachers.As far as NYC goes,they did a study of how far thugs would travel on the subway from their burroughs to commit a crime,an average of 30/45 minutes.So that puts them about anywhere.I would like to see cops on every subway.Last time I was their in NYC, the news reported a guy was shot in the head waiting for the A train at 8 P.M.:no:
 
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#55
1 out of over 50 million who are present in the NYC metro area everyday...I'll risk those odds.
 
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5. hiring more policemen doesn't make the number of crimes go down as it makes the number of people caught go up. The best way to reduce crime is having a better economy where people dont resort to crime, not hire more policemen.

3. everyone mentions paying teachers more money but no one ever mentions firing some of them for doing a bad job. Maybe that would work and its much cheaper.
 
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#59
Special Teams coches for a Major D1 football school.

Must be useless since we don't have one..
 
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oklavol said:
...everyone mentions paying teachers more money but no one ever mentions firing some of them for doing a bad job. Maybe that would work and its much cheaper.
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I wouldn't mind more accountability for teachers if they were paid more, at least in Tennessee. Otherwise, we get what we pay for, and for 30k year, I don't know if it is worth it for them to exaust all means for every child. And don't even try to say it shouldn't be about the money. About the money is the American way, or at least should be, in my opinion.
 
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The Dude said:
I wouldn't mind more accountability for teachers if they were paid more, at least in Tennessee. Otherwise, we get what we pay for, and for 30k year, I don't know if it is worth it for them to exaust all means for every child. And don't even try to say it shouldn't be about the money. About the money is the American way, or at least should be, in my opinion.
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You honestly think teachers should be paid more than $30K per school year? Let's take in to account that the average teacher only works 35 hours per week and 8 months per year, I would say that $30K is more than enough.

If teachers want more money, then they should moonlight during their off time and actually earn it.
 
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therealUT said:
You honestly think teachers should be paid more than $30K per school year? Let's take in to account that the average teacher only works 35 hours per week and 8 months per year, I would say that $30K is more than enough.

If teachers want more money, then they should moonlight during their off time and actually earn it.
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I was saying if they were to be held more accountable than they are now, they should be paid more. I think they should work more and get paid more, and be more accountable for student performance in their subjects.

But 30k ain't sh*t, man.
 
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therealUT said:
You honestly think teachers should be paid more than $30K per school year? Let's take in to account that the average teacher only works 35 hours per week and 8 months per year, I would say that $30K is more than enough.

If teachers want more money, then they should moonlight during their off time and actually earn it.
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35 hours per week and 8 months per year is absolutely wrong.

Regardless of earning it, continue to keep pay at the bottom of the barrell and plan to keep up the griping about poor teaching.
 
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The Dude said:
I was saying if they were to be held more accountable than they are now, they should be paid more. I think they should work more and get paid more, and be more accountable for student performance in their subjects.

But 30k ain't sh*t, man.
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$30K for 8 months of baby sitting is pretty good money. An industrious and resourceful teacher could easily make another $10K over summer break and Christmas break (combined), and another $5-10K by working evenings and weekends throughout the year.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
you apparently have no idea what goes into teaching. I can assure you that those conscientious enough to do it well spend far more than 35 hours per week doing the job.
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I am simply speaking of "on the job" hours. Else, we could easily compare the 70-90 hours per week that white collar business employees and execs, conscientious enough to do their job well, put in to their work.
 
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therealUT said:
Wrong.
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You know you say some very polarizing things on here.

Teachers aren't baby sitters, and they work more than 35 hours a week.

I'll agree they get a pretty good vacation schedule, but it's WORK....Teaching and developing kids.

When you're done wading thru swamps playing Ranger..
Here's a program for you..


WELCOME

or try volunteering with Junior Achievement..It's only 5 weeks, and I think it would give you some valuable insight.
 
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vol_in_ar said:
You know you say some very polarizing things on here.

Teachers aren't baby sitters, and they work more than 35 hours a week.

I'll agree they get a pretty good vacation schedule, but it's WORK....Teaching and developing kids.

When you're done wading thru swamps playing Ranger..
Here's a program for you..


WELCOME

or try volunteering with Junior Achievement..It's only 5 weeks, and I think it would give you some valuable insight.
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I have no probably stating my opinions. If my opinions are polarizing, so be it.

Also, I am planning on teaching and coaching in high school after I reach my retirement (so I will not have to worry about money.) However, I will not teach in any public school system. Also, I will not place undue importance into the position.
 
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therealUT said:
You honestly think teachers should be paid more than $30K per school year? Let's take in to account that the average teacher only works 35 hours per week and 8 months per year, I would say that $30K is more than enough.

If teachers want more money, then they should moonlight during their off time and actually earn it.
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My daughter in law teaches first grade and she puts in 1-1 and 1/2 hours overtime a day not to mention all the meetings with parents,faculty,county,state,etc.,so she is one of the ones that should make more money at least.Plus her school scores way above avearge for tara nova test (sp).
 
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