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volfan102455 said:
Different level of competition for Pitt and Memphis. They could not beat out Dobbs to be a starting QB in the SEC so they bailed for other schools.

Stop trying to make it seem like a coaching issue. Dobbs won the QB position and has put forth stats in four years that rival the best QBs (sans Manning) ever to play at Tennessee.
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Ferguson actually did beat out Dobbs.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Different level of competition for Pitt and Memphis. They could not beat out Dobbs to be a starting QB in the SEC so they bailed for other schools.

Stop trying to make it seem like a coaching issue. Dobbs won the QB position and has put forth stats in four years that rival the best QBs (sans Manning) ever to play at Tennessee.
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Dobbs had some great stats, but lets not go overboard in comparison to UT greats. He's not within sniffing distance of Robinson, Shuler or even Casey Clausen.
 
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114VOL said:
Dobbs had some great stats, but lets not go overboard in comparison to UT greats. He's not within sniffing distance of Robinson, Shuler or even Casey Clausen.
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Josh Dobbs is 2nd all-time in UT history when it comes to total TDs. He's 3rd all-time in UT history when it comes to total yards. The leader in both categories is Peyton Manning. However, Manning played in 45 games at Tennessee while Dobbs played in only 37.

On a per game basis, Josh Dobbs averaged more total yards per game and total TDs per game than Peyton Manning.

This idea that Josh isn't the 2nd greatest QB in the history of Tennessee football (by a fairly wide margin) is simply not supported by the data. Only Peyton Manning is ahead of Dobbs on the all-time list.
 
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Some people just cannot grasp the thought of how much Dobbs put up here. Just because he wasn't the sharpest passer turns em off. He literally carried this team on his back some games. HE put up great numbers. He did all he could do. There were 10 other guys on the field with him that could have helped even more...
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Josh Dobbs is 2nd all-time in UT history when it comes to total TDs. He's 3rd all-time in UT history when it comes to total yards. The leader in both categories is Peyton Manning. However, Manning played in 45 games at Tennessee while Dobbs played in only 37.

On a per game basis, Josh Dobbs averaged more total yards per game and total TDs per game than Peyton Manning.

This idea that Josh isn't the 2nd greatest QB in the history of Tennessee football (by a fairly wide margin) is simply not supported by the data. Only Peyton Manning is ahead of Dobbs on the all-time list.
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Purely from a stats perspective this is a no brainer. When you factor in the O-lines he played behind and the situation he was in then anyone not giving the kid his props earns a SMH.

Dobbs won about as many games as was possible given the situation. Hell if you really look at it in his time at UT only 1 L can be squarely put on his back. USC this year. On the other hand EVERY win he played in he carried the load. I honestly do not think there is anything more that could have been expected from the kid. He put everything he had on the line every game he started. The numbers prove it.
 
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114VOL said:
Dobbs had some great stats, but lets not go overboard in comparison to UT greats. He's not within sniffing distance of Robinson, Shuler or even Casey Clausen.
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His stats say different. He will at some point by those who refuse to give him his due be recognized in the same manner as those you named.

I seriously don't understand why "so called VOL fans" don't want to give Josh Dobbs the recognition he deserves. Do you all hate the coach so much that you can't give recognition to a player he recruited?????

  • Finished Tennessee career with a 23-12 record (including 3-0 in bowls) as starting quarterback, tying Condredge Holloway (1972-74) for the fifth-most wins by starting quarterback.
  • Set UT records for career rushing yards by a quarterback (2,160), career rushing touchdowns by a QB (32), single-season rushing yards by a QB (831 in 2016) and single-season rushing touchdowns by a QB (12 in 2016). His 2,160 rushing yards also rank 14th among all players in program history.
  • His 7,138 career passing yards rank fifth in Tennessee history and his 9,360 yards of total offense (7,138 passing, 2,160 rushing, 62 receiving) rank third in program history behind only Peyton Manning (11,020) and Casey Clausen (9,577)
  • His 3,781 yards of total offense (2,946 passing, 831 rushing, 4 receiving) in 2016 ranks second in Tennessee history only to Peyton Manning's 3,789 in 1997
  • Joined Mississippi State's Dak Prescott and Florida's Tim Tebow as the only SEC quarterbacks to record 15 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in multiple seasons
  • Is one of only four quarterbacks in SEC history to have 50 career passing touchdowns and 25 career rushing touchdowns. The others are Florida's Tim Tebow, Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel and Mississppi State's Dak Prescott.
  • Set or tied UT bowl records in 2016 Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl for most passing yards per attempt (10.7), most rushing touchdowns (three, tying James Stewart), most total plays (47, tying Jimmy Streater), most points scored (18, tying James Stewart) and most touchdowns responsible for (four).
  • Led Tennessee to its third-straight bowl victory (first time since 1994-96), defeating Nebraska, 38-24, in the 2016 Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl (12/30). Finished 23-of-38 for 291 yards and one passing touchdown and also ran for game-high 118 yards and three touchdowns (Music City Bowl record) on 11 carries. His 409 total offensive yards are the second-most all-time in Tennessee bowl history.
  • Set a new career high with 31 completions in 34 attempts at Vanderbilt, passing for 340 yards and two touchdowns and rushing for 53 yards on 13 carries. Broke his own UT single-season rushing record for a QB and became the first QB in Tennessee history to rush for 2,000 career yards.
  • Manning Award Quarterback of the Week (11/23/16)
  • Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week (11/20/16)
  • Accounted for five touchdowns (three passing, two rushing) in the Vols' 63-37 win over Missouri (11/19), completing 11 of 17 passes for 223 yards with three touchdowns and one interception. He also rushed for 147 yards and two touchdowns on 14 carries. UT's 63 points were its most since scoring 63 against Western Kentucky in 2009.
  • Manning Award Quarterback of the Week (11/17/16)
  • Led Tennessee to 10.2 yards per play average vs. Kentucky (11/12), which was the Vols' best since averaging a school-record 10.9 yards per play against UK in 2000. UT's 9.2 yards per rush was also the Vols' best since 9.5 against Auburn on Dec. 4, 2004.
  • Accounted for five touchdowns in the Vols' win over Kentucky (11/12), completing 11 of 17 passes for 223 yards, three touchdowns and one pick and rushing 14 times for 147 yards and two scores
  • Threw for 183 yards and three touchdowns on 12-of-13 passing and ran for three yards on one carry in homecoming win over Tennessee Tech (11/5)
  • Was named to the Davey O'Brien "Great 8" for his Week 6 performance at #8/7 Texas A&M
  • Threw for a career-high 398 yards at No. 8/7 Texas A&M, completing 28-of-47 (both career highs) with one touchdown and two interceptions. Also ran for 57 yards on 17 carries and caught a four-yard pass for a touchdown. Led Tennessee to 684 yards of offense, the Vols' third-most in program history, second-most in a road game and most-ever against a ranked opponent.
  • With 459 yards against the Aggies, became the fifth player in program history to account for 7,000 career yards of total offense (passing, rushing, receiving).
  • Was named to the Davey O'Brien "Great 8" for his Week 5 performance at #25/20 Georgia
  • Led UT to a thrilling 34-31 comeback win at #25/20 Georgia (10/1), throwing the game-winning 43-yard Hail Mary to Jauan Jennings with no time left. Vols trailed by as much as 17 points and Dobbs was responsible for four touchdowns, finishing 16-of-26 for 230 yards, three touchdowns and one interception and rushing for 26 yards and a score on 11 carries. Four yard-score in second quarter was 25th of his career, tying Jimmy Streater for most by a UT QB.
  • Passed Jimmy Streater (1,374) for most career rushing yards by a Vols QB with a 40-yard run vs. VT (9/10)
  • His 106 rushing yards vs. Hokies marked the fourth 100-yard rushing performance of his career, breaking a tie with Streater for most by a Vols QB.
 
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And the thing is his stats are basically for 3 seasons - yes he played in 4 but the number of games from the first 2 is 1 game less than a full season.

Had he played 4 complete seasons, if not injured he would have more than likely passed Clausen in the total offense category.
 
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volfan102455 said:
His stats say different. He will at some point by those who refuse to give him his due be recognized in the same manner as those you named.

I seriously don't understand why "so called VOL fans" don't want to give Josh Dobbs the recognition he deserves. Do you all hate the coach so much that you can't give recognition to a player he recruited?????

  • Finished Tennessee career with a 23-12 record (including 3-0 in bowls) as starting quarterback, tying Condredge Holloway (1972-74) for the fifth-most wins by starting quarterback.
  • Set UT records for career rushing yards by a quarterback (2,160), career rushing touchdowns by a QB (32), single-season rushing yards by a QB (831 in 2016) and single-season rushing touchdowns by a QB (12 in 2016). His 2,160 rushing yards also rank 14th among all players in program history.
  • His 7,138 career passing yards rank fifth in Tennessee history and his 9,360 yards of total offense (7,138 passing, 2,160 rushing, 62 receiving) rank third in program history behind only Peyton Manning (11,020) and Casey Clausen (9,577)
  • His 3,781 yards of total offense (2,946 passing, 831 rushing, 4 receiving) in 2016 ranks second in Tennessee history only to Peyton Manning's 3,789 in 1997
  • Joined Mississippi State's Dak Prescott and Florida's Tim Tebow as the only SEC quarterbacks to record 15 passing touchdowns and 10 rushing touchdowns in multiple seasons
  • Is one of only four quarterbacks in SEC history to have 50 career passing touchdowns and 25 career rushing touchdowns. The others are Florida's Tim Tebow, Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel and Mississppi State's Dak Prescott.
  • Set or tied UT bowl records in 2016 Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl for most passing yards per attempt (10.7), most rushing touchdowns (three, tying James Stewart), most total plays (47, tying Jimmy Streater), most points scored (18, tying James Stewart) and most touchdowns responsible for (four).
  • Led Tennessee to its third-straight bowl victory (first time since 1994-96), defeating Nebraska, 38-24, in the 2016 Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl (12/30). Finished 23-of-38 for 291 yards and one passing touchdown and also ran for game-high 118 yards and three touchdowns (Music City Bowl record) on 11 carries. His 409 total offensive yards are the second-most all-time in Tennessee bowl history.
  • Set a new career high with 31 completions in 34 attempts at Vanderbilt, passing for 340 yards and two touchdowns and rushing for 53 yards on 13 carries. Broke his own UT single-season rushing record for a QB and became the first QB in Tennessee history to rush for 2,000 career yards.
  • Manning Award Quarterback of the Week (11/23/16)
  • Walter Camp National Offensive Player of the Week (11/20/16)
  • Accounted for five touchdowns (three passing, two rushing) in the Vols' 63-37 win over Missouri (11/19), completing 11 of 17 passes for 223 yards with three touchdowns and one interception. He also rushed for 147 yards and two touchdowns on 14 carries. UT's 63 points were its most since scoring 63 against Western Kentucky in 2009.
  • Manning Award Quarterback of the Week (11/17/16)
  • Led Tennessee to 10.2 yards per play average vs. Kentucky (11/12), which was the Vols' best since averaging a school-record 10.9 yards per play against UK in 2000. UT's 9.2 yards per rush was also the Vols' best since 9.5 against Auburn on Dec. 4, 2004.
  • Accounted for five touchdowns in the Vols' win over Kentucky (11/12), completing 11 of 17 passes for 223 yards, three touchdowns and one pick and rushing 14 times for 147 yards and two scores
  • Threw for 183 yards and three touchdowns on 12-of-13 passing and ran for three yards on one carry in homecoming win over Tennessee Tech (11/5)
  • Was named to the Davey O'Brien "Great 8" for his Week 6 performance at #8/7 Texas A&M
  • Threw for a career-high 398 yards at No. 8/7 Texas A&M, completing 28-of-47 (both career highs) with one touchdown and two interceptions. Also ran for 57 yards on 17 carries and caught a four-yard pass for a touchdown. Led Tennessee to 684 yards of offense, the Vols' third-most in program history, second-most in a road game and most-ever against a ranked opponent.
  • With 459 yards against the Aggies, became the fifth player in program history to account for 7,000 career yards of total offense (passing, rushing, receiving).
  • Was named to the Davey O'Brien "Great 8" for his Week 5 performance at #25/20 Georgia
  • Led UT to a thrilling 34-31 comeback win at #25/20 Georgia (10/1), throwing the game-winning 43-yard Hail Mary to Jauan Jennings with no time left. Vols trailed by as much as 17 points and Dobbs was responsible for four touchdowns, finishing 16-of-26 for 230 yards, three touchdowns and one interception and rushing for 26 yards and a score on 11 carries. Four yard-score in second quarter was 25th of his career, tying Jimmy Streater for most by a UT QB.
  • Passed Jimmy Streater (1,374) for most career rushing yards by a Vols QB with a 40-yard run vs. VT (9/10)
  • His 106 rushing yards vs. Hokies marked the fourth 100-yard rushing performance of his career, breaking a tie with Streater for most by a Vols QB.
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You apparently didn't read my post. I said Dobbs' stats were great. Still, he isn't Tony Robinson by any standard. Those guys had to use audibles on a regular basis. They also played the position from under center. In short, the QB of that offense had to have more command than in the current UT offense
 
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greenbacknative said:
Some people just cannot grasp the thought of how much Dobbs put up here. Just because he wasn't the sharpest passer turns em off. He literally carried this team on his back some games. HE put up great numbers. He did all he could do. There were 10 other guys on the field with him that could have helped even more...
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Exactly. People are blaming him for Butch Jones shortcomings because he is gone and Butch is still here.

Josh Dobbs is not the reason Tennessee football failed to live up to expectations the last two years. That was Butch Jones.
 
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k-town_king said:
Except for CBJ saying that Dobbs passed RF before he was hurt several times. Dobbs won the job. Injury or not he was the next guy up when he first started.
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Not exactly, Jones always said that Peterman, Worley, and Ferguson were battling for the starting job in 2013. Ferguson was always right behind Peterman as the coaches were going to redshirt Dobbs.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Josh Dobbs is 2nd all-time in UT history when it comes to total TDs. He's 3rd all-time in UT history when it comes to total yards. The leader in both categories is Peyton Manning. However, Manning played in 45 games at Tennessee while Dobbs played in only 37.

On a per game basis, Josh Dobbs averaged more total yards per game and total TDs per game than Peyton Manning.

This idea that Josh isn't the 2nd greatest QB in the history of Tennessee football (by a fairly wide margin) is simply not supported by the data. Only Peyton Manning is ahead of Dobbs on the all-time list.
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