US DOJ blocks access to their own National Institute of Justice research article

[K-town Vol Fan]

So I actually read this article a couple of days ago, didn't post any about it because I knew how it would be received (fake news) around this place. But I gotta say something now. The National Institute of Justice (DOJ funded) published research showing that right-wing extremists are responsible for 84% of politically motivated homicides. Feel free to read it. Anyway, point is. They actually took it down today. The article has actually been removed.

Can't wait to see how y'all defend this.

Link that used to lead to the article:

Advancing Justice Through Science

The National Institute of Justice (NIJ) is dedicated to improving knowledge and understanding of crime and justice issues through science.

nij.ojp.gov

Luckily it has been archived so I will be glad to share with the class.

https://archive.is/1t1rm

So once again we have the govt censoring things they (DJT) don't want to be true. This is Trump's America.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Didn't expect crickets in the PF, but I get it

 

[C-south]

So you’re posting something that says absolutely nothing but use to say what you wanted? Lol. What defines a “politically motivated” homicide? Who determines it? I look at like when the last abysmal administration kept saying inflation was going down but everyone else knew the reality of it.

 

[RavinDave]

So I actually read this article a couple of days ago, didn't post any about it because I knew how it would be received (fake news) around this place. But I gotta say something now. The National Institute of Justice (DOJ funded) published research showing that right-wing extremists are responsible for 84% of politically motivated homicides. Feel free to read it. Anyway, point is. They actually took it down today. The article has actually been removed.

Can't wait to see how y'all defend this.

Link that used to lead to the article:

Advancing Justice Through Science

The National Institute of Justice (NIJ) is dedicated to improving knowledge and understanding of crime and justice issues through science.

nij.ojp.gov

Luckily it has been archived so I will be glad to share with the class.

https://archive.is/1t1rm

So once again we have the govt censoring things they (DJT) don't want to be true. This is Trump's America.

Does Charlie Kirk qualify as being responsible for the homicide that took his life?

 

[dalton_vol]

Will he answer?

 

[volinbham]

1. If they intentionally removed the article that is wrong.

2. The opening statistic is entirely based on a 2021 article using data from 1990 - 2020. It concludes that during that time far right outweighs far left domestic terrorist incidents but left wing violence increased over the last five years (2015 - 2020).

3. I imagine the data looks different from 2020 - present but cannot say what the balance would be/is.

4. a commonly cited study by the ADL that shows right wing violence (I believe the one Moulton used) is also dated and the biggest chunk of right wing violence was inside prisons (prisoner on prisoner violence) attributed to white supremacists.

 

[Vol8188]

Didn't expect crickets in the PF, but I get it

It’s obvious left wing data manipulation. They proclaim “since 1990 left wing and radical Muslim groups are responsible for only 78 deaths”

911 alone was almost 3,000

Pulse Night Club 49 people

San Bernardino 14 people

Fort Hood 13

Tree of Life 11

DC Sniper 10

Chattanooga Shooting 5

Baton Rouge, Gavin Long 3

Boston Marathon 3

Yeah, they’re lying to you.

 

[OrangeTsar]

That’s true since the left wing motivated violence consists of mostly peaceful homicides.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

So you’re posting something that says absolutely nothing but use to say what you wanted?

You'll have to do better than an unintelligible sentence.

 

[volinbham]

It’s obvious left wing data manipulation. They proclaim “since 1990 left wing and radical Muslim groups are responsible for only 78 deaths”

911 alone was almost 3,000

Pulse Night Club 49 people

San Bernardino 14 people

Fort Hood 13

Tree of Life 11

DC Sniper 10

Chattanooga Shooting 5

Baton Rouge, Gavin Long 3

Boston Marathon 3

Yeah, they’re lying to you.

it's mixing data - the study they drew from was "domestic" terrorism so the 78 is only US citizens with left ideology even though the preceding statement includes radical Islamist terrorists.

If you read the article it's a meta analysis about that opening statement rather than data on "who" did it. It isn't a study of anything.

I don't doubt there's plenty of right wing violence but I wouldn't hang my hat on this being an accurate study of ideological motivations.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Given $30 million by the Biden administration during an election year to go out and find hate crimes. Yeah, I am sure it was a balanced and unbiased effort

Justice Department Awards Nearly $30M to Combat the Rise of Hate and Bias Crimes

Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General Benjamin C. Mizer announced today nearly $30 million in grant funding through the Office of Justice Programs (OJP) that will be awarded to law enforcement agencies, states, community-based organizations, national civil rights organizations, and other...

www.justice.gov

 

[KB5252]

So I actually read this article a couple of days ago, didn't post any about it because I knew how it would be received (fake news) around this place. But I gotta say something now. The National Institute of Justice (DOJ funded) published research showing that right-wing extremists are responsible for 84% of politically motivated homicides. Feel free to read it. Anyway, point is. They actually took it down today. The article has actually been removed.

Can't wait to see how y'all defend this.

Link that used to lead to the article:

Advancing Justice Through Science

The National Institute of Justice (NIJ) is dedicated to improving knowledge and understanding of crime and justice issues through science.

nij.ojp.gov

Luckily it has been archived so I will be glad to share with the class.

https://archive.is/1t1rm

So once again we have the govt censoring things they (DJT) don't want to be true. This is Trump's America.

I would believe that on the macro scale, but if we took a snapshot of say, the last 5 years that data would look very, very different.

 

[KB5252]

1. If they intentionally removed the article that is wrong.

2. The opening statistic is entirely based on a 2021 article using data from 1990 - 2020. It concludes that during that time far right outweighs far left domestic terrorist incidents but left wing violence increased over the last five years (2015 - 2020).

3. I imagine the data looks different from 2020 - present but cannot say what the balance would be/is.

4. a commonly cited study by the ADL that shows right wing violence (I believe the one Moulton used) is also dated and the biggest chunk of right wing violence was inside prisons (prisoner on prisoner violence) attributed to white supremacists.

Beat me to it.

 

[Vol8188]

it's mixing data - the study they drew from was "domestic" terrorism so the 78 is only US citizens with left ideology even though the preceding statement includes radical Islamist terrorists.

If you read the article it's a meta analysis about that opening statement rather than data on "who" did it. It isn't a study of anything.

I don't doubt there's plenty of right wing violence but I wouldn't hang my hat on this being an accurate study of ideological motivations.

Weird. I read the introduction which made it sound like they were including radical islamists. They literally mention “far left or radical islamists” in the opening paragraph.

Which means if they then did a 180 and intentionally excluded radical Muslims, that’s a pretty disingenuous thing to have in your opening paragraph.

 

[C-south]

You'll have to do better than an unintelligible sentence.

Lol.

 

[OrangeTsar]

It’s obvious left wing data manipulation. They proclaim “since 1990 left wing and radical Muslim groups are responsible for only 78 deaths”

911 alone was almost 3,000

Pulse Night Club 49 people

San Bernardino 14 people

Fort Hood 13

Tree of Life 11

DC Sniper 10

Chattanooga Shooting 5

Baton Rouge, Gavin Long 3

Boston Marathon 3

Yeah, they’re lying to you.

Government offices find what the political leadership tells them to find.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the antisemitic violence across the country was credited to “right wing” groups instead of the leftist goon squads supporting Hamas

 

[Vol8188]

Government offices find out hat the political leadership tells them to find.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the antisemitic violence across the country was credited to “right wing” groups instead of the leftist goon squads supporting Hamas

Like when the NYT admitted they weren’t covering violence against Jews in NY because it was overwhelming by black men. Similar to Covid and violence against Asians

 

[OrangeTsar]

My favorite of these ideologically tasked quasi “research” offices was the EPA’s Office of Environmental Justice, tasked with seeing if pollution was racist. Anyone want to guess what they invariably found out?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

EPA Terminates Biden’s Environmental Justice, DEI Arms of Agency | US EPA

EPA News Release: EPA Terminates Biden’s Environmental Justice, DEI Arms of Agency

www.epa.gov

 

[lawgator1]

I think the larger point is that we can find examples where left wing extremists committed violence and we can find examples where right wing extremists committed violence. We can then debate within them whether there were co-factors, be it religious on the right, or LGBTQ on the left.

Try to parse them down to the narrative that suits us, but missing the larger point that intolerance is the problem and in the end we all have to acknowledge that it can't be laid totally at the feet of one or the other.

If you want to say "its more your side!" ok but that isn't going to solve the problem. And the debate over that point will be endless causing more division, more violence, and getting us further away from the solution, which is to condemn it all, but know that neither "side" has completely clean hands.

 

[RavinDave]

My favorite of these ideologically tasked quasi “research” offices was the EPA’s Office of Environmental Justice, tasked with seeing if pollution was racist. Anyone want to guess what they invariably found out?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

EPA Terminates Biden’s Environmental Justice, DEI Arms of Agency | US EPA

EPA News Release: EPA Terminates Biden’s Environmental Justice, DEI Arms of Agency

www.epa.gov

Well the Sec of Transportation found a lot of racist bridges.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

MAGA Supporter almost Shot by Deranged Leftist as Gunfight erupts over Trump Sign​

A deranged leftist has been caught on camera firing shots towards a MAGA supporter's home after ripping a Donald Trump sign from his property.

Swain County Sheriff's Office said they were called to a river rafting business in rural Bryson City, North Carolina, just before 6pm on September 6 to reports of gunshots.

The chaos was over by the time deputies arrived at the Paddle Inn Rafting Company, but the owner shared a video showing what happened on YouTube.

Mark Thomas said he caught the suspect on surveillance footage tearing 'Trump 2024' banners from one of his buses parked outside before they exchanged gunfire.

The business owner said he was the first to fire with two warning shots in the air - but the suspect hit back with several shots Thomas believes were intended to kill.

Footage shows a gun emerging from the sunroof of the suspect's Jeep, appearing to aim in the direction of Thomas' family property

MAGA supporter almost shot by leftists amid gunfight over Trump sign

Swain County Sheriff's Office said they were called to a river rafting business in rural Bryson City, North Carolina , just before 6pm on September 6 to reports of gunshots.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[n_huffhines]

1. If they intentionally removed the article that is wrong.

2. The opening statistic is entirely based on a 2021 article using data from 1990 - 2020. It concludes that during that time far right outweighs far left domestic terrorist incidents but left wing violence increased over the last five years (2015 - 2020).

3. I imagine the data looks different from 2020 - present but cannot say what the balance would be/is.

4. a commonly cited study by the ADL that shows right wing violence (I believe the one Moulton used) is also dated and the biggest chunk of right wing violence was inside prisons (prisoner on prisoner violence) attributed to white supremacists.

I know we're in great danger of getting into a semantics battle here, but as far as "terrorists" go, CATO shows that of the 81 attacks since 2020, over half are far right, 22% left-wing, and 21% are Islamic.

Since 1975, right wing terrorists have committed 391 murders to the left's 65. So you can take out the OKC bombing, and they still nearly quadruple the left.

https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states