Urban cracking down!

#5
#5
A one-year suspension is a novel idea. Kid gets a stiff punishment and a second chance and has to work hard for a long time without playing to prove himself worthy of the second chance. EDIT: Allow me to somewhat reconsider/edit/clarify. The concept of a one-year suspension sounded like a great idea when I first saw it. I don't remember many of those. I still think it's a good punishment when it fits, but, after reading other posts, yeah, firing a gun is enough to get kicked off a team permanently. I guess I was reading more into the punishment than the offense when I read the article.
 
#6
#6
yep. great punishment for the red shirt that hasn't played a down.

the leading KR though gets to sit out for the WKU game. I'm sure he learned his lesson.

you can't sit there with a straight face and say this doesn't remind you of someone's past track record.
 
#7
#7
Its a total joke.

The Jort boards are already praising Herban for his "consistent" punishments; i.e. Brandon James and Marcus Thomas both got 1 game for minor marijuana infractions.

This spin is simply abject and depraved homerism at its silliest.

Law, what does the "thinking-man's" Gator Nation think? I use this turn-of-phrase loosely, of course.
 
#9
#9
As to James, the suspension is a reasonable response. It may not be the best response, but it is not irrational and so I won't complain about it. Just hope he realizes that the second chance he has been given is to be respected, not taken advantage of.

As to Wilson, I think anything short of permanently being kicked off the team and out of the school is inadequate. He fired a gun in anger. If I were coach, he'd be gone, period, end of sentence. There is no second chance for that behavior. I am not happy about this one, at all.
 
#10
#10
As to James, the suspension is a reasonable response. It may not be the best response, but it is not irrational and so I won't complain about it. Just hope he realizes that the second chance he has been given is to be respected, not taken advantage of.

As to Wilson, I think anything short of permanently being kicked off the team and out of the school is inadequate. He fired a gun in anger. If I were coach, he'd be gone, period, end of sentence. There is no second chance for that behavior. I am not happy about this one, at all.
funny how it can be interpreted that way for another coach. and he'll be applauded for being a player's coach and how much he "loves" his kids etc, etc, etc,........but give him a few years, and see how many of these 2nd chance kids he has, and how many of those 2nd chances turn in to 3rd chances, and i wonder if the opinion could be changed to warrant a "meyer cup" designation.

the hypocracy that exists today is ridiculous, and that's not aimed at you personally LG.

this very same implementation of so called discipline is the same practice that earned CPF his rep for being "soft on crime". and all Meyer is doing is setting precedent for future occurances.

what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I guess this kid better be glad it wasn't a toy gun.......good grief.

and as for the other.......he got busted on a sting operation where he was caught on video and audio buying weed, and he gets to sit out the WKU game????

can you imagine what the fall out would be like if these two incidents happened in Knoxville and the penalties were the same? CPF would be led to the town square and flogged.
 
#11
#11
funny how it can be interpreted that way for another coach. and he'll be applauded for being a player's coach and how much he "loves" his kids etc, etc, etc,........but give him a few years, and see how many of these 2nd chance kids he has, and how many of those 2nd chances turn in to 3rd chances, and i wonder if the opinion could be changed to warrant a "meyer cup" designation.

the hypocracy that exists today is ridiculous, and that's not aimed at you personally LG.

this very same implementation of so called discipline is the same practice that earned CPF his rep for being "soft on crime". and all Meyer is doing is setting precedent for future occurances.

what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I guess this kid better be glad it wasn't a toy gun.......good grief.

and as for the other.......he got busted on a sting operation where he was caught on video and audio buying weed, and he gets to sit out the WKU game????

can you imagine what the fall out would be like if these two incidents happened in Knoxville and the penalties were the same? CPF would be led to the town square and flogged.


I'm not saying your prediction about the long-term effects of this leniency is wrong. In fact, I worry that you are right. But as to James I can see giving him a second chance. His offense, to me, simply wasn't of the type that should result in a career-ending disciplinary measure.

I am sure that, somewhere along the way, some player is going to do something stupid figuring that Meyer always gives his kids a second chance. That's the image price the university is going to pay for this attitude and, as long as no one else gets hurt by it, if at least some of the kids use the second chance wisely, then I'm okay with the ding to our image.

Wilson, on the other hand... There just isn't any other way to say it than to say that the decision is wrong. Firing a gun during an argument (even if into the air to scare someone) is on an entirely different metaphysical plane than smoking some doobage. He has to go for good, IMO.
 
#12
#12
I'm not saying your prediction about the long-term effects of this leniency is wrong. In fact, I worry that you are right. But as to James I can see giving him a second chance. His offense, to me, simply wasn't of the type that should result in a career-ending disciplinary measure.

I am sure that, somewhere along the way, some player is going to do something stupid figuring that Meyer always gives his kids a second chance. That's the image price the university is going to pay for this attitude and, as long as no one else gets hurt by it, if at least some of the kids use the second chance wisely, then I'm okay with the ding to our image.

Wilson, on the other hand... There just isn't any other way to say it than to say that the decision is wrong. Firing a gun during an argument (even if into the air to scare someone) is on an entirely different metaphysical plane than smoking some doobage. He has to go for good, IMO.
and that's fine, and i don't disagree with you. my only point was how these incidents get treated in general by the media/fans etc....

honestly, if these had happened in Knoxville and CPF handed down the same punishment........what do you think would have been the backlash, if any?
 
#13
#13
and that's fine, and i don't disagree with you. my only point was how these incidents get treated in general by the media/fans etc....

honestly, if these had happened in Knoxville and CPF handed down the same punishment........what do you think would have been the backlash, if any?


I am guessing that some folks would shake their heads at the James one and say, watch out because he'll just do it again. And that as to Wilson a lot of people will feel the same way I do.
 
#14
#14
Well, that answers my question from when this happened as to whether or not Wilson was even a fourth stringer.
 
#16
#16
BTW, I read an older article that predicted the suspended lineman would contend for a spot and be a contributor. He hurts more than the other guy would.

And I am no defender of Meyer. I sincerely hope he gets the exact result Fulmer got when he let discipline get too lax.
 
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