Unsportsmanlike conduct?

#26
#26
Boca Vol said:
Well guys, here's the rule:

a. Specifically prohibited acts and conduct include:
1. No player, substitute, coach or other person subject to the rules shall
use abusive, threatening or obscene language or gestures, or engage in
such acts that provoke ill will or are demeaning to an opponent, to
game officials or to the image of the game, including but not limited
to:
(a) Pointing the finger(s), hand(s), arm(s) or ball at an opponent,
or imitating the slashing of the throat.
(b) Taunting, baiting or ridiculing an opponent verbally.
(c) Inciting an opponent or spectators in any other way, such as
simulating the firing of a weapon or placing a hand by the ear
to request recognition.
(d) Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by
which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon
himself (or themselves).
(e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride as he
approaches the opponent’s goal line or diving into the end
zone.
(f ) A player removing his helmet after the ball is dead and before
he is in the team area (Exceptions: Team, media or injury
timeouts; equipment adjustment; through play; between
periods; and during a measurement for a first down).
(g) Punching one’s own chest or crossing one’s arms in front of the
chest while standing over a prone player.
(h) Going into the stands to interact with spectators, or bowing at
the waist after a good play.
(i) Intentionally removing the helmet while the ball is alive.
(j) Dead-ball contact fouls such as pushing, shoving, striking, etc.
that occur clearly after the ball is dead and that are not part of the
game action. (A.R. 9-2-1-X)
(k) After the ball is dead, using forcible contact to push or pull an
opponent off the pile. (A.R. 9-2-1-XI)
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You could apply (d) to this but once again, that's a judgement call open to interpretation by the ref.
 
#28
#28
ALLVOL 4LIFE said:
I agree, it was the gator chomp, so our team is not allowed to do it?

Yes Bama does! Last year, when scarborough scored on us, he did a talk to the hand gesture to our fans...no flag, and they was up BIG.
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I don't remember seeing Bama players do stuff.

We all get upset on these calls because they are not applied the same in each circumstance.

IMO, what is upsetting (if I am a Tennessee fan) is that you have a player doing something that could result in a penalty when you are still losing the game. It was 13-9 at the time of the penalty with extra point to come.

Maybe Alabama players do those things. I don't recall them.

The overall thing for me though and I thought about creating a thread on it......

We talk about Alabama's talent all day long. But, Alabama does not do the things that Florida and Tennessee did yesterday that have nothing to do with how many stars the players have.

Alabama doesn't get celebration penalties. Alabama doesn't kick kickoffs out of bounds. that's just another example.
 
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#29
#29
Boca Vol said:
You could also apply C, IMO. It was one or the other for the reason it was called.
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Which is fine if the Gator chomp is now illegal across the board. I can't count the number of times I have seen their players direct that toward Tennessee fans over the years. This is a double standard if they can do it and we can't. It's the same gesture.
 
#30
#30
True. Just give the dam ball to the ref and enjoy hugs and kisses from team mates.
 
#31
#31
turdherder11 said:
My god we lose the way we did and you wanna talk about this
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Yes he does... because was the ONE thing that sparked the crowd and the Gators and it was obvious they picked it up after that disrespect they felt. Wish JK would have let them sleep and saved that for after the win instead.
 
#32
#32
IluvdoubleD's said:
TBH I didn't think that First Florida TD was a TD. I was drunk as a skunk though. I'd have to see it again.
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Next time pay attention! LOL


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#33
#33
KBVol said:
Dunno. I would've understood if he'd have taunted an actual player....but doing the gator chomp to the fans with no gator player around? Seems like a bad application of the rule.
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I said the exact same thing, almost verbatim, outloud yesterday with the group of friends I watched with.

No consistency in the rule.

Someone refresh my mind though, did Bo Scarbrough get a penalty last year for getting up in the Tennessee fans face after his long TD run last year? Seems much more egregious than what Kelly did since he seemed to target one particular fan and approached him. Kelly didn't target anyone, player or fan, and that was a poor application of the rule unless something happened off camera that we didn't see.
 
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#34
#34
What you guys don't realize is he was making the Pac-man chomping sound whike doing it; that was over the line for the ref.
 
#35
#35
BowlBrother85 said:
You could apply (d) to this but once again, that's a judgement call open to interpretation by the ref.
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The issue is why is it ok for IF players to do it and no one else? That's a poor judgement call IMO, and a warning is probably more appropriate for the first offense. It should also be policed across the board.
 
#36
#36
cncchris33 said:
The issue is why is it ok for IF players to do it and no one else? That's a poor judgement call IMO, and a warning is probably more appropriate for the first offense. It should also be policed across the board.
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Agreed. Any rule should have uniformity in it's application. This is a double standard.
 
#37
#37
I was at the game. My opinion - he was clearly aiming it at the fans. I think 63 is the guy who caused the penalty though. He was still doing the chomp right in front of their fans way after 4 was done and celebrating with teammates
 
#39
#39
The penalty wouldn't have mattered anyway if we had UF's kicker, since he would have subsequently still kicked it through the end-zone anyway...
 
#42
#42
Refs are getting more and more strict with it. It's a matter of perspective--I don't think Kelly deserved it but I would be cheering had a Florida player gotten one for the same thing lol.
 
#43
#43
99gator said:
I don't remember seeing Bama players do stuff.

We all get upset on these calls because they are not applied the same in each circumstance.

IMO, what is upsetting (if I am a Tennessee fan) is that you have a player doing something that could result in a penalty when you are still losing the game. It was 13-9 at the time of the penalty with extra point to come.

Maybe Alabama players do those things. I don't recall them.

The overall thing for me though and I thought about creating a thread on it......

We talk about Alabama's talent all day long. But, Alabama does not do the things that Florida and Tennessee did yesterday that have nothing to do with how many stars the players have.

Alabama doesn't get celebration penalties. Alabama doesn't kick kickoffs out of bounds. that's just another example.
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Who cares what you think
 
#45
#45
It was clearly directed at the Florida fans, which showed that he had intent to quiet the crowd by mocking them. That is the very definition of taunting. Claiming it was clapping is disingenuous. Had he directed it towards our fans, you may get some leeway, though it wouldn't make sense to gator chomp at our fans would it?
 
#46
#46
It was taunting plain and simple. A very stupid thing to do and it cost us on the next kick off.
Very, very dumb.
 
#50
#50
BowlBrother85 said:
Agreed. Any rule should have uniformity in it's application. This is a double standard.
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The rule is not applied with uniformity. Who does not know that? Everybody knows. That is why Tennessee players ought not pull dumb stunts like that if they want our team to win. Taunting the crowd gets a flag, these days. Everybody knows.
 
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