University of Tennessee gonna advance further than Memphis State?

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Kusotate said:
Might want to visit Campbell Cunningham Taylor of Knoxville to get those eyes checked if that is what you took from my previous post.......
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You said both walked into similar situations...

Martin has his boys in the sweet 16, Pastner has never made a sweet 16...seems pretty clear to me.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Sure, if you wanna live in the past help yourself. I'll take present day sweet 16s over past ones though, but whatever floats your boat.
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Come on now. Even I'll admit that's some pretty flawed logic. Using that line of thinking, Vanderbilt has a better program than Tennessee in football. They went to a bowl this year.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Come on now. Even I'll admit that's some pretty flawed logic. Using that line of thinking, Vanderbilt has a better program than Tennessee in football. They went to a bowl this year.
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Memphis hasn't been to a sweet 16 in 5 years, so talking about their sweet 16 to our current one seems irrelevant. If it was last year ok, but you're talking half a decade and a coach ago.

That would be like me using the Pearl years to argue that Tennessee is currently a top 15 program...would be dumb.
 
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D.C. Vol said:
Does that include the vacated wins back in 2008?
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They have 5 vacated SW16's. So if we want to get technical UT 7 > Mem 6. But I'll give it to them, they "earned" those other 5 and had to win the games to get there. But in the grand scheme of things, if you're talking 4 more SW16 over 80 years of basketball that doesn't mean much. Historically, Memphis likely has a better overall program than us, but it's not the lightyears ahead that they believe it is.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Memphis hasn't been to a sweet 16 in 5 years, so talking about their sweet 16 to our current one seems irrelevant. If it was last year ok, but you're talking half a decade and a coach ago.

That would be like me using the Pearl years to argue that Tennessee is currently a top 15 program...would be dumb.
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Last time Tennessee went to a bowl was four years ago. Vandy has been to one the last three years.

I'm just saying that taking snippets of recent history doesn't paint an accurate depiction all the time.
 
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D.C. Vol said:
I guess you're ignoring the fact Cuonzo inherited two dumpster fire vacancies. His last year at Missouri State they should have received an automatic bid, but since they lost the championship game they were dismissed by the committee although they had a very high RPI. The point should have been obvious....Mr. Pastner has proven he can't advance in the tournament with significant talent margins; and that should concern the Memphis brethren.
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Cuonzo "inherited" quite a bit here at UT, actually. Stokes (most practiclly), McRae and Maymon are Pearl guys, don't forget.

But he's solidified his position in Kville and next year he'll get to field a team of only his recruits. Pastner did that back in 2012, I hope Martin has the same success (or more) with his own recruits than Pastner has.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Last time Tennessee went to a bowl was four years ago. Vandy has been to one the last three years.

I'm just saying that taking snippets of recent history doesn't paint an accurate depiction all the time.
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I wasn't arguing who's program is better historically....and I think any Tennessee fan that says the Tennessee football program was better than Vandys the last 3 years should be punched in the face.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
And I think just about every Memphis fan would say that they wouldn't trade Pastner for Cuonzo.

Both fanbases seem to think the grass isn't greener, which is good.
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Really? Man, to take all that talent and never make the sweet 16....

He ain't much.

And I'm not a huge Cuonzo fan. I think he is just middle tier on the coaching ladder.

We can perhaps agree that neither are elite coaches.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Really? Man, to take all that talent and never make the sweet 16....

He ain't much.

And I'm not a huge Cuonzo fan. I think he is just middle tier on the coaching ladder.

We can perhaps agree that neither are elite coaches.
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He (Pastner) just started head coaching. Cuonzo doesn't have many more years on him.

They're both young coaches, and they won't get worse with age.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
He (Pastner) just started head coaching. Cuonzo doesn't have many more years on him.

They're both young coaches, and they won't get worse with age.
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True. Cuonzo is 42... Pastner 36.

Perhaps they are both the right guy for their particular job.


Based on the yearly high school basketball tourney's, there is serious talent in the Memphis area.
 
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I like seeing all the UT fans in the Fed-ex Forum tonight watching the Dayton vs. Stanford game. Way to represent Vol fans!
 
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