Unbelievable the trigger hasn’t been pulled.

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jrdfletcher said:
This is not going to be a popular post, but everyone needs to the chill the f out.

John Currie absolutely knows what he is doing. He cares about winning. He wants Tennessee football to thrive. He is a smart man who is seeing the bigger picture beyond what the volnation message boards want to feel good about. Let the process play out. This is a MAJOR decision and you bet your ass he is going to take his time and vet his pick for the long term of Tennessee Football (and his job ultimately).

Until then, unplug, go for a walk, do something other than vent and rant on a message board. It's football. Not life. I want Tennessee to win as much as the next guy, but good Lord can we give the man time to work? And for those who say "well i want to go to a bowl game", i say do you really think firing Butch now will make a difference? Teams are made in the spring and fall camps. Dobbs isn't going to stroll back in and solve the disaster of an offense we have just because Butch is fired.

We will be fine. As long as the mopey ass fans actually continue to support the team and not whine and fuss because of who is currently leading it.

Good day.
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Post of the century!

But I'm sure it goes right over the heads of all the handwringing school girls on here who think the 85 Bears will take the field as soon as Jones is fired.
 
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Imagine you are a coach thinking about coming here and reading how divided this fan base is.... why would you come here?
 
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From SEC Country article:

The only reason I can see for Currie to give Jones another week is if he plans to give him another year.


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Is Currie trying to build up his courage and grow a pair, or is he hoping Jones can somehow win out and be retained:popcorn:
 
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So let me get this straight speculating on motives and thoughts due to non-action is ok when your just hopeful. AND YOU HAVE NOTHING to base your speculative thoughts on what Currie is doing is ok.

But demanding change due to actual actions and words said to the fan base is moronic?

I'm just trying to get some clarification here.

One side has just a hope and I THINK this is what he is doing .
Vs
What is actually being done and said
 
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vols1707 said:
So let me get this straight speculating on motives and thoughts due to non-action is ok when your just hopeful. AND YOU HAVE NOTHING to base your speculative thoughts on what Currie is doing is ok.

But demanding change due to actual actions and words said to the fan base is moronic?

I'm just trying to get some clarification here.

One side has just a hope and I THINK this is what he is doing .
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What is actually being done and said
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Fair questions. Wanting change is fine, demanding change is moronic. How many conference calls have you been on? How many donors have you spoken with? How many coach's agents have you reached out to? NONE. Because that's Currie's job. And I guarantee he is doing it. And if you think that he is required to give you an update on what's going on than that is truly moronic. These things happen in the shadows.
 
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Florida will go after Chip Kelly, Scott Frost, etc.. Clearly they will go after the best coaches available. Likely will take one of our top candidates off the table and we'll have to face him next year. I guess we are going to wait until the end of the season to see who gets fired from their current team and make our choice from that list. Should be able to get a bargain on another crappy coach.
 
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basspond said:
Florida will go after Chip Kelly, Scott Frost, etc.. Clearly they will go after the best coaches available. Likely will take one of our top candidates off the table and we'll have to face him next year. I guess we are going to wait until the end of the season to see who gets fired from their current team and make our choice from that list. Should be able to get a bargain on another crappy coach.
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VOL_Lyfe said:
I think Mullin will be UF's primary target.
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Florida is soon to be hammered big time by the NCAA, they will be lucky to get a big name....
 
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Why was it that Fulmer was fired in 2008? I mean, back then, they didn't even have to think about it. He was just...gone. One year after winning the SEC East. They act like they are scared to death of Jones. Does he have photos of someone in the administration in a very compromising position? I'm starting to think that. I get a vibe from Jones. Like he knows he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
 
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jrdfletcher said:
Fair questions. Wanting change is fine, demanding change is moronic. How many conference calls have you been on? How many donors have you spoken with? How many coach's agents have you reached out to? NONE. Because that's Currie's job. And I guarantee he is doing it. And if you think that he is required to give you an update on what's going on than that is truly moronic. These things happen in the shadows.
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I respect your opinion buddy.

I have zero faith in Currie's desire for greatness.
And that's based on his actions on the woman's basketball hire.
And his non-action and brand defimation of the football program.

Hopeful I'm wrong and there is a plan for loosing so many millions in brand defimation just to save a couple million on a buyout.
 
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Any credibility of the OP stopped at "POS".

I hate to see (supposed) adults have such hissy fits.

I hope your life happiness does not hinge on whether a coach is fired at your demand.

I understand the building frustration but seriously get some balance in your life.

Let's see what the decisions are before going off the rails.
 
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rltw1974 said:
Sorry for the rant.

I expected to wake up this morning to some good news. How this POS coach is still employed is beyond comprehension.

With all the 4 and 5 * talent and we are sitting at 3-5 (0-5 SEC) reeks of coaching malpractice. It is not even possible that every recruiting service misjudge4d these kids. It is straight up coaching incompetence.

Hart should be kicked in the nuts for extending this guy and giving him that ridiculous buyout. At this point CBJ should pay the university. Currie needs to roll the dice and get JG or Frost so we can at least compete in the east.
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Apparently it is beyond your comprehension. So Currie needs to get Gruden or frost? Gruden is a fantasy. He is not coming. Never was. I know, I know....UT is cheap or we'd have him by now. The thought never enters the mind that maybe just maybe, Gruden loves sitting in a booth in front of a camera doing commentary for what 4-5 months a year making 10+ mil per year vs working 12 months a year, traveling and kissing prima donna high schooler tail, dealing with 85 kids to be sure they stay clean and solid academically plus beat sec foes every time, every year or calls to fire his ass come hot and heavy after every loss. Yeah, I have a hard time understanding how he could turn that down and stay where he is.

As for frost, you do know he's under contract to another school and in the middle of a very good season. How do you expect Currie to sign him now? Do you expect frost to drop his current team and abandon those kids and fans in the middle of the season? Would you really want a coach who would do that to a team?

Pretty easy to rant and throw a tantrum, but when you're simply not living in reality, it's kinda difficult to take you seriously.
 
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Another possible scenario I have been contemplating. Perhaps all the rumors about Currie and Jones' people "renegotiating " the buyout was related to something else. Maybe Butch came to agreement with some other school to take over as head coach at the end of 2017 season. It is no real secret that Butch isnt happy here. Maybe he found a school desparate enough to make him an offer, especially before the depth of our current slide became apparent. I can see a deal coming down like this....Jones commits to resign at the end of the season to become head coach at school x. He saves face and UT avoids the buyout entirely. The only catch is a standard media blackout clause. Each party agrees to make no comment regarding Jones' tenure until the resignation is made. Pure speculation, but it fits all of the visible facts. Currie may already have his replacement signed in a similar media blackout agreement. It explains the silence from the AD, Butch's visible easing of worry (along with his apparent unconcern with actually winning). As a matter of fact, it provides a preverse incentive for Butch, if he avoids a bowl, he can take up his new gig sooner and get a head start on recruiting. Just a thought.
 
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rltw1974 said:
Sorry for the rant.

I expected to wake up this morning to some good news. How this POS coach is still employed is beyond comprehension.

With all the 4 and 5 * talent and we are sitting at 3-5 (0-5 SEC) reeks of coaching malpractice. It is not even possible that every recruiting service misjudge4d these kids. It is straight up coaching incompetence.

Hart should be kicked in the nuts for extending this guy and giving him that ridiculous buyout. At this point CBJ should pay the university. Currie needs to roll the dice and get JG or Frost so we can at least compete in the east.
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His fate has already been decided...Relax and wait...He is gone but not officially.
 
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jrdfletcher said:
This is not going to be a popular post, but everyone needs to the chill the f out.

John Currie absolutely knows what he is doing. He cares about winning. He wants Tennessee football to thrive. He is a smart man who is seeing the bigger picture beyond what the volnation message boards want to feel good about. Let the process play out. This is a MAJOR decision and you bet your ass he is going to take his time and vet his pick for the long term of Tennessee Football (and his job ultimately).

Until then, unplug, go for a walk, do something other than vent and rant on a message board. It's football. Not life. I want Tennessee to win as much as the next guy, but good Lord can we give the man time to work? And for those who say "well i want to go to a bowl game", i say do you really think firing Butch now will make a difference? Teams are made in the spring and fall camps. Dobbs isn't going to stroll back in and solve the disaster of an offense we have just because Butch is fired.

We will be fine. As long as the mopey ass fans actually continue to support the team and not whine and fuss because of who is currently leading it.

Good day.
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livefaith said:
Post of the century!

But I'm sure it goes right over the heads of all the handwringing school girls on here who think the 85 Bears will take the field as soon as Jones is fired.
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So if he stays then what? Are you 2 going to come down from your high horses to eat your crow? Your post is stupid. No one thinks that the 85 Bears are coming .( can't believe you even typed that). You can't perform you get fired simple as that. Had to fire someone yesterday myself a leader on one of my teams it sucked but I did.for the betterment of the team. There is a body of evidence that says this guy can't win at this level, we are loosing recruits tell me again why Lyle should still have a job.
 
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tnbelle98 said:
How many of you are going to figure out that the Chancellor and the AD are the puppets of Jimmy Haslam. They are waiting on him to pull their strings. Complete BS. They should rename UT to Haslam University. They don't care about the alumni or the fans, only money. Pathetic!
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No they aren't, they are puppets to their own ineptitude. Haslam just enables it by funding it. He isn't pulling the everyday strings that is just a scapegoat for those who believe in the Gruden myth.
 
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Special Ed said:
Currie didn't even hone the axe when everyone and his brother was calling for Holy Warlock's head last season.
Currie isn't raising the axe now that everyone and his brother is calling for Botch Jones' head.
Do you see the common denominator here?
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The common denominator is Jimmy Haslam. He controls Currie. Also, don't forget that the Chancellor, who was also hired by Jimmy Haslam, is John Currie's boss, just like Jimmy Cheek was as well. What don't you get?
 
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landscapingvol said:
No they aren't, they are puppets to their own ineptitude. Haslam just enables it by funding it. He isn't pulling the everyday strings that is just a scapegoat for those who believe in the Gruden myth.
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Sure. You keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. Follow the pattern. Bill Haslam is the governor, who's position includes being chairman of the board of trustees for UT, which by the way is comprised of only half UT grads. Bill is the good Haslam, so he is letting Jimmy make the decisions along with Jimmy's best friend who is Raja, and who is also a major influence on the board. UT has had a revolving door of not only athletic staff but administrative staff for a decade. Whoever believes in the Gruden myth is stupid. If you don't get it with this explanation then think whatever you want. I am not making speculations on who is our next coach or when the timing will be or the decision made on whether or not Butch will even be let go, like all of the other people on this site. I am only giving facts. Think of it this way, if I didn't know, I wouldn't say it.
 
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basspond said:
Florida will go after Chip Kelly, Scott Frost, etc.. Clearly they will go after the best coaches available. Likely will take one of our top candidates off the table and we'll have to face him next year. I guess we are going to wait until the end of the season to see who gets fired from their current team and make our choice from that list. Should be able to get a bargain on another crappy coach.
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Okay, if UF is after Kelly and we are late to the party, why hasn't his hiring been announced already? He's available now. Gotta act to UF will lose a recruiting class plus Kelly can step in and turn the season around with just his presence. So where's the news? Kelly will sign with the first school that contacts him, right? No way Kelly is still unsigned by the end of the season. Nope. No way.

And if Kelly is gone, UF will surely get Frost to dump his current team and sign with UF sometime this week. UT is late again and missed a budding star. No way Frost is available after the regular season.

We have to move now before UF "takes them off the table". UF can only hire one. How does that preclude us from getting a good coach or relate us to taking table,scraps? Oh...I see, if UF hires first, that means no matter who it is, we are taking leftovers? Is that it?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that neither UF or UT will have a new head coach in place before the end of the regular season. I'll also guess that no matter who we hire, the children on this board will label Currie a failure.
 
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tnbelle98 said:
The common denominator is Jimmy Haslam. He controls Currie. Also, don't forget that the Chancellor, who was also hired by Jimmy Haslam, is John Currie's boss, just like Jimmy Cheek was as well. What don't you get?
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She too doesent care about football
 
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