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You know, I've been closely studying these pro-Russian militias, as the media calls them. They have armament and tactical vehicles that I'm sure could substantially increase the legitimacy of militias here at home. Our American militias could afford some serious advice and consultation from these pro-Russian militias: genius innovative techniques like oh, just join your country's military.
 
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volprof said:
Actually, I could probably use some of that. Never been diagnosed, but my attention span is limited, to say the least.

And you still didn't answer my previous question. Not that it's a big deal. I'm not trying to be confrontational. I just genuinely want to know why you think I wouldn't know something about a film from 1980 or so.
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He's obviously correct. You didn't know. What is there to explain?
 
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volprof said:
I hear ya, Grand. And you're technically right. A 19th Century attitude might best be defeated by an equally 19th Century attitude. But at some point someone has to stop all this nonsense. It's this same model that got us into this mess, and it's this same model that keeps perpetuating all this mess.

At some point, someone has to be the bigger nation and just man up instead of being a bunch of war mongering sissies: just demand that this is not the way that nations should deal with one another in the 21st Century. A model of international rational consensus is possible.

Anyhow, don't mistake my argument here for "liberal pantywaistedness." If **** hits the fan due to dumbasses in charge with small penises, you better bet my rear end will be one of the first on the front line, my Kabar, my SW, and my AK in tow.

But, until then, I resent *******s dictating to me and to innocent others that phallic diplomacy is somehow the natural state of affairs. And that things cannot be any different. I call bull****.
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Bet you got kicked in the nuts a lot didn't you?
 
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Burhead said:
Has there ever been a flashpoint where rumors of mysterious private military contractors haven't been spotted? :)
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But they are always Blackwater lol

Either way, the Ukrainians hiring contractors is significant if true.
 
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Grand Vol said:
But they are always Blackwater lol

Either way, the Ukrainians hiring contractors is significant if true.
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Rumors at the start of the occupation were that the Russians hired contractors to take over the airports in those earlier hours never been confirmed. What's got me curious/worried is the increased activity of Ukrainian units on the mainland. There are also reports saying a dozen or so SA-18s have been stolen.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Which brings me back to the overwhelming point I've tried to make in this thread. Our own lack of this, of trying to be nice and give in at every step to the Russians and all our foreign policy failures, has basically told the entire world it's not an option.
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What, short of sending American troops into Syria (or where ever), would have constituted not being "nice" to the Russians?
 
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Obsessed said:
Black water renamed academi

Interesting none the less.
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Kinda sorta. Same facilities, different owners and management. Erik Prince, the original owner, went overseas and started another company. There is a lineage to the original company, but in the same way Convair is related to Boeing.
 
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Velo Vol said:
What, short of sending American troops into Syria (or where ever), would have constituted not being "nice" to the Russians?
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I feel zero need to continue to explain everything to you time and time again when you continue, time and time again, to ignore what I'm saying because you don't want to know.

Reread the thread if you want answers to the question you just asked.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Why is it every private security company is "Blackwater" when the company doesn't even exist anymore?

Are 'Blackwater' now active in Ukraine? Videos spark talk that U.S. mercenary outfit has been deployed to Donetsk | Mail Online

Interesting development though no matter which particular company it is.
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I guess that has become the thing to call them like how the media in the 2000's come to call all military "troops" where its 2 or 500. Soldiers, Sailors, Marine or Airman its now "troops"

Example "Two troops were injured in....."

This for some reason drives me nuts!!
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
I guess that has become the thing to call them like how the media in the 2000's come to call all military "troops" where its 2 or 500. Soldiers, Sailors, Marine or Airman its now "troops"

Example "Two troops were injured in....."

This for some reason drives me nuts!!
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Can't say much about this since I use the same terminology lol. Everyone is troops to me.
 
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Another EO issued by obama.
I'll be honest I'm confused by it and the definition of persons.

Can some of you guys help me with this?


By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,
I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, find that the actions and policies of persons — including persons who have asserted governmental authority in the Crimean region without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine — that undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity; and contribute to the misappropriation of its assets, constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I assume he means Putin.
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I don't know. I assume he is as well, but it's very open ended. The EO " includes" that as such as Putin.


Persons- is this to include businesses? Are other country's considered "businesses"?

find that the actions and policies of persons — including persons who have asserted governmental authority in the Crimean region without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine — that undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine;
 
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