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Burhead said:
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What are the Russians moving at the Kremlin in the middle of the night?
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Vladimir Vladimirovich was apparently taller than we realized. They had to cut his body in four parts to ship it out to the burial site.
 
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Since I like to point out timelines to Ras and Pacer....take a look at this picture from 2013. Now this was well before Maidan took place. And this was not the first of these flags and groups. This is a DNR flag together with a Eurasian Youth Union flag tied to Alexander Dugin, our favorite Russian fascist.

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Now Ras and Pacer love to regurgitate this whole Russian line of how Ukraine is fascist. But the mindset behind the DNR/LNR and what is rapidly growing and influencing Russia is as fascist as you can get. This eight pointed flag is Dugin's little fascist band for younger Russians. While we discuss Right Sector and Azov someone may want to spend some time on Dugin's groups and see who is behind this little rebellion in SE Ukraine as well as the mindset that is influencing Russia. And also of note back to the timeline dynamic I mentioned earlier, this mindset has been influencing thinking and driving events here in Ukraine and Russia well before Maidan and this supposed "coup".

Alexander Dugin: The Crazy Ideologue of the New Russian Empire - The Daily Beast
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Since I like to point out timelines to Ras and Pacer....take a look at this picture from 2013. Now this was well before Maidan took place. And this was not the first of these flags and groups. This is a DNR flag together with a Eurasian Youth Union flag tied to Alexander Dugin, our favorite Russian fascist.

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Now Ras and Pacer love to regurgitate this whole Russian line of how Ukraine is fascist. But the mindset behind the DNR/LNR and what is rapidly growing and influencing Russia is as fascist as you can get. This eight pointed flag is Dugin's little fascist band for younger Russians. While we discuss Right Sector and Azov someone may want to spend some time on Dugin's groups and see who is behind this little rebellion in SE Ukraine as well as the mindset that is influencing Russia. And also of note back to the timeline dynamic I mentioned earlier, this mindset has been influencing thinking and driving events here in Ukraine and Russia well before Maidan and this supposed "coup".

Alexander Dugin: The Crazy Ideologue of the New Russian Empire - The Daily Beast
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Tanks to Tblisi!

I love reading Dugin. His neo-Eurasianism basically translates as, "Hey, I want you all to have freedom, because the US is denying that. For this utopia to happen, though, Russia needs to be as big as possible." And he tries to sound all smart in the process.
 
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volprof said:
Who do you think had Nemtsov killed, red?
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I have no idea, and I'm sure I never will. If it was a professional hit, I'm sure the entity that put out the contract was anonymous and the team that carried it out has no traceable ties to any agency. It is fun to speculate though.

So if I'm purely speculating, and if Putin truly is taking on the financial elite, well... there isn't a very good history of a world leader being successful in that endeavor. Andrew Jackson is one but he was lucky to survive two assassination attempts.
 
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red butler said:
I have no idea, and I'm sure I never will. If it was a professional hit, I'm sure the entity that put out the contract was anonymous and the team that carried it out has no traceable ties to any agency. It is fun to speculate though.

So if I'm purely speculating, and if Putin truly is taking on the financial elite, well... there isn't a very good history of a world leader being successful in that endeavor. Andrew Jackson is one but he was lucky to survive two assassination attempts.
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Putin is one of the financial elite. Why would he be taking them on?
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Since I like to point out timelines to Ras and Pacer....take a look at this picture from 2013. Now this was well before Maidan took place. And this was not the first of these flags and groups. This is a DNR flag together with a Eurasian Youth Union flag tied to Alexander Dugin, our favorite Russian fascist.

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Now Ras and Pacer love to regurgitate this whole Russian line of how Ukraine is fascist. But the mindset behind the DNR/LNR and what is rapidly growing and influencing Russia is as fascist as you can get. This eight pointed flag is Dugin's little fascist band for younger Russians. While we discuss Right Sector and Azov someone may want to spend some time on Dugin's groups and see who is behind this little rebellion in SE Ukraine as well as the mindset that is influencing Russia. And also of note back to the timeline dynamic I mentioned earlier, this mindset has been influencing thinking and driving events here in Ukraine and Russia well before Maidan and this supposed "coup".

Alexander Dugin: The Crazy Ideologue of the New Russian Empire - The Daily Beast
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http://rt.com/news/239677-azov-nazi-volunteer-ukraine/
 
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Pacer92 said:
http://rt.com/news/239677-azov-nazi-volunteer-ukraine/
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So again you dodge what I pose to you with a deflection? I'll bite and I'll give you "Alex". Will you take this whole movement on the Russian side? Will you take the guy that is influencing Putin and many of the elite and policymakers of Russia? Or will you tuck tail and run again? Still waiting on your answer from multiple asks by me as well.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
So again you dodge what I pose to you with a deflection? I'll bite and I'll give you "Alex". Will you take this whole movement on the Russian side? Will you take the guy that is influencing Putin and many of the elite and policymakers of Russia? Or will you tuck tail and run again? Still waiting on your answer from multiple asks by me as well.
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I've asked them before, and you have as well. And still neither of them answer inquiries about their politics, specifically the role of fascist ideology in their personal thinking.

All it takes is a simple "no."

I'll give them this though: their silence at least proves them honest about it. No pretense to deny, unlike Putin.
 
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volprof said:
For a fascist, you sure are awful concerned with fascists.

I'm convinced you're a Russian. Only country in the world where you can be a fascist and claim to hate fascists, and the whole populace just eats it up.

Stop pretending to like American football.
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Definitely Russian trolls. It's crazy they would plant people on a collegiate sport message board.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
So again you dodge what I pose to you with a deflection? I'll bite and I'll give you "Alex". Will you take this whole movement on the Russian side? Will you take the guy that is influencing Putin and many of the elite and policymakers of Russia? Or will you tuck tail and run again? Still waiting on your answer from multiple asks by me as well.
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There's no deflection. Just pointing out the fact that two can play that game! Anybody can point out examples of young soldiers in most every army in the world that are infatuated with fascist ideology, including the US army.
 
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#VFL__ said:
Definitely Russian trolls. It's crazy they would plant people on a collegiate sport message board.
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I'm neither a troll or a fascist. And definitely not a halfwit that buys into the lies and corruption our govt is based on.

Keep drinking the dumb down kool aid or educate yourself. Your choice..
 
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Hey Pacer92,

What's been going on in Moscow or London the last few days? What are your inside sources telling you?
 
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Pacer92 said:
There's no deflection. Just pointing out the fact that two can play that game! Anybody can point out examples of young soldiers in most every army in the world that are infatuated with fascist ideology, including the US army.
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It's not even the same thing. It's pure numbers game and you are losing. There are mass numbers coming in from Russia. You show me a handful from Croatia and one retired old guy from the US on Ukraine's side. I show you an infectious mindset that is actually guiding not just the soldiers of this movement but the leaders themselves as well. You give me some guy who likes the strong grip Nazis had in government. Sheer numbers and reach alone just mute your whole Kyiv fascist argument you and Ras dance around for.

Laying it out for you again....what's your politics? Are you a fan of fascism?
 
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Pacer92 said:
I'm neither a troll or a fascist. And definitely not a halfwit that buys into the lies and corruption our govt is based on.

Keep drinking the dumb down kool aid or educate yourself. Your choice..
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Are you a halfwit that buys into the lies and corruption other governments are based on? Just checking since your particular use of sources for your info.
 
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Pacer92 said:
I'm neither a troll or a fascist. And definitely not a halfwit that buys into the lies and corruption our govt is based on.

Keep drinking the dumb down kool aid or educate yourself. Your choice..
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I'm pretty sure VFL was making a joke.

But, then again, I'm just a halfwit that buys into everything my govt. tells me.
 
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Grand Vol said:
They kind of have to. The Russian national soccer team sucks.
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What your opinion on something. I know you support arming Ukraine, do you support American weapons being sent to the volunteer battalions (since they are the most effective units right now) or only being in the hands of the Armed Forces?
 
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