UK Police reviewing officer conduct after dorm room raid

#4
#4
Someone should have kicked that kid's azz. That being said the officer let the kid get under his skin.
 
#5
#5
The kid is a jerk but he was right and the campus police were wrong. It is important for those in authority to know the limits of their authority.

Room Entry Policy

Authorized university personnel may enter a student's residence hall room without permission for the following reasons:

To provide routine maintenance
To provide routine inspections to ensure that residents are following health, fire, and safety regulations
To respond to emergency situations; e.g., situations which threaten the health and/or safety of room occupants, and situations which require immediate maintenance to prevent property damage or immediate action to correct the health, fire and/or safety risk
When there is reason to believe that a violation of university policy is taking place in the room and occupants in the room do not open the door when requested to do so.
Authorization to enter a student's room under this policy does not constitute authorization to conduct a search of the room.

Authorized university personnel indicated above include:

Full-time members of the Housing and Residence Life staff, including maintenance and custodial personnel.
Hall Directors, Assistant Hall Directors, Resident Advisors, and Assistant Managers, subject to the following restriction:
In non-emergency situations, prior authorization must be received from a full-time professional staff member in the Office of Residence Life.
Unless circumstances prohibit, two staff members should be present when using the master key to enter a student's room.
University Police.
University Fire Marshal.
Protocol for using the master key to enter a residence hall room:

No student room should be entered without knocking, regardless of whether the door is locked, unlocked, or open. The only situations in which staff are not required to knock are emergencies.
Before using the master key, university personnel attempting to enter a room should identify themselves and state the reason for entry. In addition, they should request that the door be opened.
If the door is not opened and authorized university personnel deem it necessary, the master key will be used to enter the student's room for one or more of the reasons listed above.
 
#6
#6
The kid is defiantly a punk. But he was right.

4th amendment protects him from this. Kid has a case to sue the officer that pushed him for assault.

And a case again for illegal entry.

When the cop told him not to worry about paying his tuition for next semester he was partially right.

Next semester will be free.
 
#7
#7
The kid is a jerk but he was right and the campus police were wrong. It is important for those in authority to know the limits of their authority.

can't watch the video but how was he right? Did they actually conduct a search of the room?

at UT they could enter but not open anything. That meant if it was out in the open they could get you but not if it was in your closet, fridge, etc
The kid is defiantly a punk. But he was right.

4th amendment protects him from this. Kid has a case to sue the officer that pushed him for assault.

And a case again for illegal entry.

When the cop told him not to worry about paying his tuition for next semester he was partially right.

Next semester will be free.

none of that applies if he's in university housing. You agree to abide by their rules when you sign up
 
#8
#8
can't watch the video but how was he right? Did they actually conduct a search of the room?

at UT they could enter but not open anything. That meant if it was out in the open they could get you but not if it was in your closet, fridge, etc

none of that applies if he's in university housing. You agree to abide by their rules when you sign up


Pj- I must have missed the part on any contract that allowed them to commit assault.

The cops left once they realized they were being recorded. They new the had screwed up.
 
#9
#9
at UT they could enter but not open anything. That meant if it was out in the open they could get you but not if it was in your closet, fridge, etc


They told him to open his fridge. He refused and they opened it anyway.
 
#10
#10
Pj- I must have missed the part on any contract that allowed them to commit assault.

The cops left once they realized they were being recorded. They new the had screwed up.
Assault? Looks like I'll have to watch this video of cops beating a student. If they are authorized to enter (and it looks like they are) then the student had no right to block them. The search is a different matter

Sounds like a kid committing a crime and setting up the cops just for his 15min. Hopefully karma does some work
 
#12
#12
The police entered the room with out permission.

They pushed the student. Entered and searched the room again with out permission and a warrant to go through his personal things

Opened a fridge with out his consent.

In short his 4th amendment rights were trampled on.

I don't like the kid. He is a punk. But those laws are there to protect all of us.
 
#13
#13
Per the guidelines posted above (which the student agreed to) they are allowed to enter. The only issue is the search.
 
#14
#14
The police entered the room with out permission.

They pushed the student. Entered and searched the room again with out permission and a warrant to go through his personal things

Opened a fridge with out his consent.

In short his 4th amendment rights were trampled on.

I don't like the kid. He is a punk. But those laws are there to protect all of us.

Do the police not have probable cause? They said they had complaints about illegal activities. Even the fact that he refuses the search in this situation could lead to probable cause.
 
#15
#15
Do the police not have probable cause? They said they had complaints about illegal activities. Even the fact that he refuses the search in this situation could lead to probable cause.

Refusal of search is not probable cause. Police have to have visual of something to have probable cause ie: joint laying in car seat or on sofa.

They had none.
 
#16
#16
Do the police not have probable cause? They said they had complaints about illegal activities. Even the fact that he refuses the search in this situation could lead to probable cause.

That doesn't make sense.

If refusing to be searched gives them probable cause it would be impossible get out of being searched and cops would be able to search everyone and everything they wanted.
 
#17
#17
Per the guidelines posted above (which the student agreed to) they are allowed to enter. The only issue is the search.

If that were my kid, I would have a problem with the police officer threatening to have him tossed out of school. I would beat him for being a complete jerk first, then I would visit the dean of students about the threats. The police officer should keep his comments germane to the situation and has no business threatening the kids educational standing.
 
#18
#18
If they saw him dumping liquor out of his window that is enough to enter his dorm room.
 
#21
#21
Also, the way the kid was behaving could possibly be considered belligerence.

That doesn't grant the right to force themselves in a room.

If so why was he not taken into custody?

Cops were simply trying to push him around. That's all.
 

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