Uhh... 10 second violation?

[Sudden Impact]

I can just barely remember 6 on 6. It was actually sort of neat to watch.

you must be older than dirt. and yes me too remember it well.

 

[GAVol]

you must be older than dirt. and yes me too remember it well.

Never has 34 felt so old.

 

[TennNC]

I presume that this is why you often see teams inbound the ball late in the game by rolling it on the floor, allowing the player to run alongside the ball and pick it up near the halfcourt line. Basically saves clock time, correct?

I think it's hilarious when players do this. It doesn't save any time, and if you really were trying to save time, just throw a regular pass - don't roll it.

 

[volfanbill]

I think it's hilarious when players do this. It doesn't save any time, and if you really were trying to save time, just throw a regular pass - don't roll it.

if the clock stops and you roll it in and the other team doesn't try to guard you (or get the ball to be more exact) you can roll it all the way to half court with no time gone. if you try a half court pass the chances of it being stolen increases dramatically. 2-3 seconds of basketball is a good amount of time

 

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

Look, there is no 10 seconds violation because the shot clock starts as soon as the ball is inbounded. In the men's game the shot clock does not start until the ball crosses half-court.

:ermm:

 

[therickbol]

Well not really. If you trap a team for 9 sec in backcourt the men have 26 sec left and the women have 21. So you have less clock to work with and run your half-court offense. It does eliminate the violation but there are very few mens teams that cause it on a regular basis.

Only have 21 seconds on the shot clock is the same as a turnover? Nope. It changes the type of press you employ. If there was a 10 second violation then they trapping press would be different than what they use now. What they use is just meant to slow the team up enough to not be able to get into early offense and thus have less time on the shot clock. It is different. When you think about it, how often do you see a 10 second violation during a game with two quality opponents on the mens' side? Maybe it wouldn't make too much difference then.

 

[TennNC]

if the clock stops and you roll it in and the other team doesn't try to guard you (or get the ball to be more exact) you can roll it all the way to half court with no time gone. if you try a half court pass the chances of it being stolen increases dramatically. 2-3 seconds of basketball is a good amount of time

It never saves 2-3 seconds, and sometimes it takes more time b/c you have to bend down, pick it up, and then by the time you get going, you've actually allowed the defender to get in your way and make it more difficult to get down court.

If a player is already heading down the court and you hit him in stride with a pass, it's much quicker.

 

[patrick]

fake bball fake bball

 

[jaybird_1981]

It never saves 2-3 seconds, and sometimes it takes more time b/c you have to bend down, pick it up, and then by the time you get going, you've actually allowed the defender to get in your way and make it more difficult to get down court.

If a player is already heading down the court and you hit him in stride with a pass, it's much quicker.

You do realize the clock doesn't start until the ball is touched right?

 

[DenverVol]

I believe that the "rolled" ball must be touched before the five second count is up or it is an inbound violation.

 

[utvolpj]

Only have 21 seconds on the shot clock is the same as a turnover? Nope. It changes the type of press you employ. If there was a 10 second violation then they trapping press would be different than what they use now. What they use is just meant to slow the team up enough to not be able to get into early offense and thus have less time on the shot clock. It is different. When you think about it, how often do you see a 10 second violation during a game with two quality opponents on the mens' side? Maybe it wouldn't make too much difference then.

After your shot-clock idea I don't know if I should really respond but I will. I never said it was the same as a turnover. There are not very many 10sec violations in mens bball. The effect a press has on the womens game is different. The idea behind pressing is no different, create turnovers, but the press-break could be different with the shot clock as your only time limit.

I believe that the "rolled" ball must be touched before the five second count is up or it is an inbound violation.

Just has to be inbounded, not touched.

 

[DenverVol]

Thanks utvolpj.:hi:

 

[therickbol]

After your shot-clock idea I don't know if I should really respond but I will. I never said it was the same as a turnover. There are not very many 10sec violations in mens bball. The effect a press has on the womens game is different. The idea behind pressing is no different, create turnovers, but the press-break could be different with the shot clock as your only time limit.



Just has to be inbounded, not touched.

You implying something about my basketball knowledge? Haha. I'll match it up against you any day. I did make a mistake earlier, admitted it, went to AA, and moved on. The 10 second violation does change the idea behind pressing.

 

[volfanbill]

It never saves 2-3 seconds, and sometimes it takes more time b/c you have to bend down, pick it up, and then by the time you get going, you've actually allowed the defender to get in your way and make it more difficult to get down court.

If a player is already heading down the court and you hit him in stride with a pass, it's much quicker.

except that typically with a three possession lead or more, the defense is going to stay in a halfcourt d to elminate gimme shots or giving cheap fouls. a "slightly" athletic person can pick the ball up while on the move.