Uab outplayed and out coached us. How do we expect to compete in the sec

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#151
Seriously, can't we just say that it was a bad day for the players and the coaches.
 
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DC Vol said:
It's not a secret that good coaches coaching good teams can lose games they should win.

Problem with comparing Dooley to them? He hasn't won a major game to offset a subpar performance yet either at UT or even previously in his tenure. If he beats LSU pretty much any/all doubt about where he has this team going will be quieted for the time being. Saban had more notches in his belt at the end of his first year at Bama that it didn't really matter if he lost to ULM. Him beating Tennessee would have been the equivalent to Dooley beating Florida give or take the rank at the time of the game.

Even beating Georgia would be a triumph, though not on the level that Florida, Alabama or LSU would be.
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Well-written and spot on.
 
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jsc1973 said:
There was also the Memphis game in 1996.

But you can name any coach who ever lived, and I can name a game where they sucked.

Bear Bryant in 1981 lost a game to a 1-10 Georgia Tech team. Cost him a shot at another national championship.

Many years before that, Darrell Royal served up Bear's first national title when his No. 1-ranked Texas team managed to get beat by 1-8 TCU late in the season.

Tom Osborne in 1992 lost a game--badly--to a 2-9 Iowa State team that had just lost by two TDs to 1-AA Northern Iowa.

Nick Saban in his first season at LSU lost to UAB. In his first season at Alabama, he lost to ULM.

One of Pete Carroll's semi-pro USC teams lost a game to Stanford in which they were favored by 40.

Even Steve Spurrier had the "Choke at Doak," not to mention a loss to a big underdog most seasons that took his team out of the national title picture.

You can say Derek Dooley sucked on Saturday, but at least he still won the game.
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hmmm.. I really don't remember spurrier losing to big underdog teams every year at FL. I can't remember him losing to many if any unranked teams during his time there
 
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core545 said:
hmmm.. I really don't remember spurrier losing to big underdog teams every year at FL. I can't remember him losing to many if any unranked teams during his time there
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I was curious, so I had to look this up...

Spurrier actually didn't lose to a team outside of the top 25 during his first 10 years coaching the gators (90-99).

In 2000, he lost to an unranked Mississippi State team breaking a 72 game winning streak against unranked teams.
 
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#161
It hurts but was expected after Haslem decided to keep his old Coach's records in place. But, we are looking at 2-10 guys.
 
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RECON said:
It hurts but was expected after Haslem decided to keep his old Coach's records in place. But, we are looking at 2-10 guys.
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You got it. Mike Hamilton was trying to preserve the records of some guy he probably never heard of before being hired by UT.
 
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#165
When we lose to Wyomia at home with a full roster and loaded with talent it will be time to fire CDD.
 
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utmba93 said:
And, he had a successful coaching record prior to taking either job. Dooley is not Saban.
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Which actually makes it even worse that he got out-coached and outplayed using this logic.

Since Dooley apparently cannot coach then it should not be a surprise that we were out-coached. However. since Saban is supposedly infallible in most peoples eyes, it should be embarrassing and inexcusable that Saban lost to UAB and Monroe and should have meant certain doom for those programs.

Unless the argument is that had we hired Saban then we would be less likely to be outcoached by UAB, except that Saban actually did get outcoached by UAB, but with far more depth and talent.

I mean if we are doomed when we have little depth and our third coach in 3 years, then I am surprised that those teams did not instantly vaporize into thin air given that those sorts of losses should never happen to good teams with good coaches.

And since we can never know if Dooley would have lost to UAB or Monroe were he coaching LSA/Bama at the time of those losses, then the point is really moot. However, asserting that our program is doomed because we nearly lost to UAB is a fallacy since there happens to be many examples in history of superior teams losing to inferior teams and even more examples of mediocre teams losing to mediocre teams, the latter of which happened. UAB lost to Tennessee.
 
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