U.S. Has UFOs of 'Non-Human Origin', Ex-Intelligence Officer Claims

Does the .gov have Alien tech?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 32.4%
  • No

    Votes: 36 24.3%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 21 14.2%
  • It's Trumps Fault

    Votes: 19 12.8%
  • Yes, but also....Pie

    Votes: 10 6.8%
  • No, but also... Pie

    Votes: 14 9.5%

  • Total voters
    148


This is a big one if we are being told the truth. From today's hearing.

this does raise a couple things with me.

1. clearly the UAP isn't traveling at some astronomical speed, that have often been claimed.
2. clearly the UAP doesn't have some special cloaking technology. both this camera and the missile were able to lock on.
3. it isn't immune to our tech, its visibly knocked off its path for a while, and takes a second to straighten up.

in particular given #2, it seems like we should know more about it than just a video. and given #1, we should be able to track it.
 
this does raise a couple things with me.

1. clearly the UAP isn't traveling at some astronomical speed, that have often been claimed.
2. clearly the UAP doesn't have some special cloaking technology. both this camera and the missile were able to lock on.
3. it isn't immune to our tech, its visibly knocked off its path for a while, and takes a second to straighten up.

in particular given #2, it seems like we should know more about it than just a video. and given #1, we should be able to track it.
So it must not be real if it isn’t cloaked or flying at the speed of light.

It survived a missle attack ffs.
 
So it must not be real if it isn’t cloaked or flying at the speed of light.

It survived a missle attack ffs.
where do I say "it must not be real"?

I am just questioning the narrative that this is all they have, alluding to the distinction that it is all they have SHARED. with a good chunk of the information being withheld, I don't see how this is some "win" for the believers?
 
where do I say "it must not be real"?

I am just questioning the narrative that this is all they have, alluding to the distinction that it is all they have SHARED. with a good chunk of the information being withheld, I don't see how this is some "win" for the believers?
It’s not all they have. It’s a slow drip they they control, but it’s better than nothing. That’s why the hearings are being held, to get more released and more transparency.

I always, always question why it’s being released, however I don’t doubt it’s real. Missles have been shot down by these things and there are videos of it.

It’s one of the things Trump seems hesitant about and I disagree with.

So stfu louder (for old times sake).
 

what is the end goal here? VF27 just said it was to drip feed us stuff.

but how long are these hearings scheduled to go on? what is the end goal from these hearings? Is there going to be an official government response? Are they going to "cross examine" the doubters? is the US government supposed to come out and make some official statement after enough has been released?
 
what is the end goal here? VF27 just said it was to drip feed us stuff.

but how long are these hearings scheduled to go on? what is the end goal from these hearings? Is there going to be an official government response? Are they going to "cross examine" the doubters? is the US government supposed to come out and make some official statement after enough has been released?
Attention to get a spotlight on it. The government has denied this since the 40’s. It’s in the news, all over social media etc. No need for a cross examination, we know what the government has said for decades.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant and all that.

If they admit it then they have to acknowledge the lies, crimes and black projects they have spent probably billions on with no oversight, which is a crime.

I don’t claim to know what the end result will be, but you have to get started somewhere. Getting the Pentagon to pass an audit would be a great result, if nothing else.
 
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Attention to get a spotlight on it. The government has denied this since the 40’s. It’s in the news, all over social media etc. No need for a cross examination, we know what the government has said for decades.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant and all that.

If they admit it then they have to acknowledge the lies, crimes and black projects they have spent probably billions on with no oversight, which is a crime.

I don’t claim to know what the end result will be, but you have to get started somewhere. Getting the Pentagon to pass an audit would be a great result, if nothing else.
I have said that the easiest cut to the budget should be whatever amount the pentagon can't pass their audit by.

"oh you can't explain where this 300 billion went? I guess it wasn't that important and we can cut it without any issues."

watch how quickly that money turns up.
 
I have said that the easiest cut to the budget should be whatever amount the pentagon can't pass their audit by.

"oh you can't explain where this 300 billion went? I guess it wasn't that important and we can cut it without any issues."

watch how quickly that money turns up.
Reminds me of the old man from Independence Day talking about 500 dollars for a hammer, etc.

Plus keep in mind the contractors getting paid from all of this. Lockheed doesn’t have to answer FOIA requests.

The whole thing is rotten, whether you believe it’s aliens or not. I doubt we’ll ever get the truth, just tidbits here and there. Doesn’t mean you don’t try. We deserve to know if we’re not alone, and just get answers in general that doesn’t let our enemies get the tech.

/endsoapboxrant
 
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Reminds me of the old man from Independence Day talking about 500 dollars for a hammer, etc.

Plus keep in mind the contractors getting paid from all of this. Lockheed doesn’t have to answer FOIA requests.

The whole thing is rotten, whether you believe it’s aliens or not. I doubt we’ll ever get the truth, just tidbits here and there. Doesn’t mean you don’t try. We deserve to know if we’re not alone, and just get answers in general that doesn’t let our enemies get the tech.

/endsoapboxrant


Good posts. Both of them.

By my count this is the 3rd Congressional hearing about UFOs in the last couple years. With each new hearing new witnesses from our armed services and new video/FLIR gets released so at least some progress is being made IMO. These craft have gone from " you didnt see what you think you saw...its classified." To an environment where whistle-blowers and leakers can be protected and even encouraged to come forward with their experiences and any evidence. It has also achieved our govt FINALLY acknowledging that these craft DO exist...they DO fly in US airspace...and they allegedly are NOT ours. Before these hearings began it was always deny and lie....lie and deny. Hopefully they will eventually release ALL the footage which by all accounts is extensive.

Yet again with this craft there is no visible means of propulsion, no heat signature from an engine, no wings, no control surfaces like flaps or ailerons...nothing. Yet this craft is able to NOT go into the ocean when struck by a missile flying ~1000mph, to change direction rapidly not long after being struck and travel in a different direction, all of this at what looks to be very low altitude above the ocean. So weird. I hope it IS our technology even if reverse engineered from another vehicle. The 2 most likely means of propulsion that meet the criteria here are gravity/anti gravity and electromagnetism. If we have figured out how to use either of those powerful forces to actually fly vehicles then we are likely centuries ahead of current known technology in propulsion. Even from NASA and SpaceX. That would be amazing.
 
One possibility I saw on the web was the missile actually passed through the Orb and never detonated and why you see whatever inside was ejected and trailed behind it. Whatever was behind it seems have been piloted or whatever you want to call it.
 
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