Tyndall won't survive per Jimmy Hyams.....

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oldsarge said:
The academic scandal at UNC is currently being investigated by the state. State investigators have arrest and subpena powers. It is also illegal in many states to lie to investigators. (It is illegal to lie to Federal Authorities) The NCAA will probably wait until after the State of North Carolina finishes to start their inquiry. They will then just cut and paste what the state has produced.

The above being said, many of the people overseeing the investigation are either graduates of UNC or its Law School. They have huge offices with large rugs and access to big brooms. This will probably be the results of their investigation.

The two principal actors, Julius Nyang’oro and Deborah Crowder (both now retired), acted in concert, but nobody in either the UNC Administration or Athletic Department had any knowledge of what they were doing. They managed for 18 years to fool everyone. They did this out of a misguided love for the university and a desire to help these young men continue to receive the benefits of an education there. (The fact that UNC directly benefited from their actions is irrelevant.) They take full responsibility for their actions and assure everyone they worked alone.

The NCAA will take this and say that rogue elements worked to deceive the university and thus the Athletic Department at UNC, thus little or no punishment is warranted.

Does this sound about right?
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Partly.

The NCAA has been investigating this case on and off for years. The first time their investigation basically found that the paper classes had been offered to regular students as well as athlete's, thus, the athletes weren't getting anything that any other student at UNC could get.

Of course the findings of the Wainstein Report noted that academic advisors in the athletic department were in cahoots with the folks you mentioned above. This is a game changer imo.

But...if one thinks back to the Miami case, the one the NCAA bungled...it dragged on for several years for many reasons. For one thing, the misdeeds transpired for a decade and involved a lot of athletes and coaches. Imagine then how long it will take to interview all of the people involved going back about 20 years and involving 100's of athletes.

Further, several class action lawsuits have already been filed and more are likely to come.

Lawsuit claims UNC and NCAA broke promises in 'spectacular fashion' - CNN.com

In addition, Congress got involved back in December, writing the NCAA:

Reps. Elijah Cummings of Maryland and Tony Cardenas of California want the NCAA to explain how its practice of staying out of academic fraud cases if they involve all students promotes the NCAA’s mission to “maintain intercollegiate athletics as an integral part of the educational program and the athlete as an integral part of the student body.”
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Read more here: Two congressmen challenge NCAA’s handling of UNC academic fraud | Investigations Blog | NewsObserver.com


I understand the perception that UNC is a blue blood school and nothing is going to come of this scandal, but it seems highly unlikely, especially now that some heads have rolled/forced retirement...there will be many willing to cooperate with the NCAA. This was not the case three or four years ago.

It will take a long time in no small part due to the NCAA's failures with regard to Miami and Penn State. They cannot afford to repeat those mistakes in another high profile case.
 
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madbamahater said:
104.5 the zone this morning, Jimmy Hyams said he sees no way that Tyndall will survive the 'AA mess he is in. He thinks UT will have to fire him.

He says it's proof that Southern Miss self-imposed and that's a sign of guilt. He also said that UT and Tyndall are having a very tough time with this development.
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As usual, Hyams is FOS.

Tyndall views the self imposed postseason ban as good for him because it's S. Miss admitting guild on the university's behalf. What did UT self impose after Pearl was gone and he got in trouble. Absolutely nothing. The NCAA recently has shown they will punish the appropriate person/people/entity. If S. Miss wasn't culpable, they had no reason to self impose anything. But word is their compliance dept signed off on whatever was going on so they're responsible.

We're still looking at DT getting a suspension of about 8-10 games.
 
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I totally agree with NYC Vol.....as I understand what is slowly coming out ... The southern miss compliance dept handled the whole process, and all involved fell like it was handled correctly......
 
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NYC Vol said:
As usual, Hyams is FOS.

Tyndall views the self imposed postseason ban as good for him because it's S. Miss admitting guild on the university's behalf. What did UT self impose after Pearl was gone and he got in trouble. Absolutely nothing. The NCAA recently has shown they will punish the appropriate person/people/entity. If S. Miss wasn't culpable, they had no reason to self impose anything. But word is their compliance dept signed off on whatever was going on so they're responsible.

We're still looking at DT getting a suspension of about 8-10 games.
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Cant recall but how many games was UConns Calhoun suspended for a couple years ago ?
 
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Again, has anyone checked to see if Hyams actually said this? I'm almost positive he did not.

This archived anywhere?
 
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If their compliance department signed off on it how can CDT get in trouble ? They are supposed to know what they are talking about . If that is the case I bet CDT doesn't get in trouble
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Again, has anyone checked to see if Hyams actually said this? I'm almost positive he did not.

This archived anywhere?
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I don't think he did bc he didn't sound that way at all on sports source....the guys on there pretty much said nothing new was known and that they thought he wouldn't get a show cause and anything short of that and tennessee will keep him.
 
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would be nice if the ncaa would pull there heads out there a$$ and let this man get on with his life. All it is doing is hurting the program
 
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Funny how Syracuse, North Carolina and SMU can continue to do what they do and these coaches still have their jobs. But Donnie just got here and Hyams is talking not surviving this. We a decision on those schools first before they do anything to see what the precedent is going to be.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I don't think he did bc he didn't sound that way at all on sports source....the guys on there pretty much said nothing new was known and that they thought he wouldn't get a show cause and anything short of that and tennessee will keep him.
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Hyams always speaks more direct on the zone than he does here locally.
 
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madbamahater said:
104.5 the zone this morning, Jimmy Hyams said he sees no way that Tyndall will survive the 'AA mess he is in. He thinks UT will have to fire him. He says it's proof that Southern Miss self-imposed and that's a sign of guilt. He also said that UT and Tyndall are having a very tough time with this development.
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This OP is pure fabrication! I just listened to the entire podcast from 1-23-15 with Jimmy Hyams and nothing in this post was said! I repeat "Nothing!" :bad:
 
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SeniorDrill said:
This OP is pure fabrication! I just listened to the entire podcast from 1-23-15 with Jimmy Hyams and nothing in this post was said! I repeat "Nothing!" :bad:
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Maybe next time you'll actually listen to the evidence before you make comments like you did earlier in the thread.
 
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