Tyler Bray's QB attributes

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loggervol said:
To start off,Tyler has the height to see over the OL.This will help him to see down the field and to see what kind of defense the other team is lined up in.at 6ft 6in.makes him a great fit in a pro style offense.

next,Tyler has a very live arm that gives him the ability to make all the throws.whether its down the field or to the far sideline,the ball arrives to the WR with plenty of zip.with this arm he also has accuracy,letting him put the ball where only his teammate can make the catch.a back shoulder throw or a ball thrown over the outside shoulder.he can also deliver the ball with nice touch to a RB coming out of the backfield.

Tyler also has nice footwork.he is not the fleetest of foot but can move within the pocket to give himself extra time.in my oppinion this is one of his most important skills.being able to move up,back,and side to side,to avoid the rush,while keeping his eyes down field.

this is just some of the things i wanted to put down,to show what kind of QB the University of Tennessee has.i dindn't put the question marks about Bray because i believe he is stil growing in the game mentally and maturing not only in age but actions on and off the field.

GO VOLS and heres to a hoefully great football season in 2012.
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I have seen little evidence of the nice footwork or the pinpoint accuracy allowing him to make back-shoulder throws downfield. Tyler gets the ball off quickly when under pressure, but that is often because of the fact that he is willing to sacrifice his footwork in order to do so. He also will often throw those passes into strong coverage. He is lucky that he has receivers that can bail him out of trouble on many occasions.
 
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99gator said:
And in doing so, had a better day
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No, Rainey had a better day. I could have thrown dump passes all day long too. Hell, Matt Simms could have thrown those dump passes. I know you are trolling, but geez, to think Brantley is even remotely in the same class as Bray is just plain idiotic. Even if you want to throw his stats out for that game.
 
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he was making back shoulder throws his first year playing.i never said his footwork was perfect .i said he used good footwork to get away from the rush.
 
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UTFanForLife said:
No, Rainey had a better day. I could have thrown dump passes all day long too. Hell, Matt Simms could have thrown those dump passes. I know you are trolling, but geez, to think Brantley is even remotely in the same class as Bray is just plain idiotic. Even if you want to throw his stats out for that game.
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it helps to read. i didn't say brantley was the better player. i said he had the better day. and he did

and i notice no one has even bothered to try to make an argument that bray had a better day than roark

bray damn near lost that game all by himself
 
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99gator said:
Is able to be outplayed by john brantley and matt roark in the same season
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99gator said:
it helps to read. i didn't say brantley was the better player. i said he had the better day. and he did

and i notice no one has even bothered to try to make an argument that bray had a better day than roark

bray damn near lost that game all by himself
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Yeah, whatever. To me outplayed = better player that day=had a better day. Don't try and back down now.
 
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99gator said:
it helps to read. i didn't say brantley was the better player. i said he had the better day. and he did

and i notice no one has even bothered to try to make an argument that bray had a better day than roark

bray damn near lost that game all by himself
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Roark completed 4 passes, doesn't even need to be argued. Roark had a better day rushing than our RB's though.

Doesn't matter if you said Brantley was a better player or not, you insinuated it. He didn't even have the better day, he threw dump passes. If rainey and demps hadn't of bailed him out by running for a crap ton of yards after the catch, Brantleys numbers would have looked like crap. Nobody in their right mind would say Brantley had a good game, he didn't do anything.

Bray on the other hand, lost his best receiver and had his other top receiver doubled all game. Lets leave out the fact that Florida's DB's had to hold the whole game just to stop the passing attack. Even after all that, Brantleys stats are only marginally better.
 
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TNGlen said:
Yeah, whatever. To me outplayed = better player that day=had a better day. Don't try and back down now.
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i'm not backing down. how difficult is this to understand?

as an example, in super bowl XXI, phil simms had a better day than john elway. john elway is and was the better player.

i understand being in denial about this because it certainly pops the air out of the balloon to admit that bray has never played well against anyone who was all that good (ever) and has actually had mediocre to poor games against some teams that weren't even good.

but, try proving me wrong about that
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Roark completed 4 passes, doesn't even need to be argued. Roark had a better day rushing than our RB's though.

Doesn't matter if you said Brantley was a better player or not, you insinuated it. He didn't even have the better day, he threw dump passes. If rainey and demps hadn't of bailed him out by running for a crap ton of yards after the catch, Brantleys numbers would have looked like crap. Nobody in their right mind would say Brantley had a good game, he didn't do anything.

Bray on the other hand, lost his best receiver and had his other top receiver doubled all game. Lets leave out the fact that Florida's DB's had to hold the whole game just to stop the passing attack. Even after all that, Brantleys stats are only marginally better.
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you really think bray had a better day than roark? are you serious?

by your logic, wuerffel had a better day than tommie frazier because he threw for more yards and frazier didn't even bother to throw the ball that much.

bray was god awful against kentucky. all the other qb had to do to have a better day was simply be on the field. even if he hadn't played qb since high school
 
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99gator said:
you really think bray had a better day than roark? are you serious?

by your logic, wuerffel had a better day than tommie frazier because he threw for more yards and frazier didn't even bother to throw the ball that much.

bray was god awful against kentucky. all the other qb had to do to have a better day was simply be on the field. even if he hadn't played qb since high school
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Roark was 4 for 7. Please tell me when that is a good day as a QB? He had 125 yards rushing, on 20 something attempts. That is alright for a RB, not a QB. Roark is no Vick, he didn't even attempt to play QB. He was only back there to receive the snap, that is it. That is no different than a direct snap to a RB, that is basically what Kentucky did except for 7 plays.

If you are going to argue something, please don't be fing stupid about it. You also like to leave out important things, like broken thumbs on throwing hands. But please, continue to show your ignorance, wouldn't expect less from a jort wearing gator.
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Roark was 4 for 7. Please tell me when that is a good day as a QB? He had 125 yards rushing, on 20 something attempts. That is alright for a RB, not a QB. Roark is no Vick, he didn't even attempt to play QB. He was only back there to receive the snap, that is it. That is no different than a direct snap to a RB, that is basically what Kentucky did except for 7 plays.

If you are going to argue something, please don't be fing stupid about it. You also like to leave out important things, like broken thumbs on throwing hands. But please, continue to showing your ignorance, wouldn't expect less from a jort wearing gator.
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this is not a argument that roark is a good qb. this is not an argument that roark played well in his game vs. tennessee.

it is an argument that roark did his job playing qb for kentucky on that day better than bray did that day for tennessee.

now, you're going to call me out for being ignorant when only mighty western kentucky put up less points on kentucky on the season.

so, you're right. my bad. bray made roark look like a chump in comparison. i mean the way tennessee moved the ball up and down the field that day for 276 total yards.

breathtaking performance
 
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99gator said:
this is not a argument that roark is a good qb. this is not an argument that roark played well in his game vs. tennessee.

it is an argument that roark did his job playing qb for kentucky on that day better than bray did that day for tennessee.

now, you're going to call me out for being ignorant when only mighty western kentucky put up less points on kentucky on the season.

so, you're right. my bad. bray made roark look like a chump in comparison. i mean the way tennessee moved the ball up and down the field that day for 276 total yards.

breathtaking performance
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Back peddling I see. You said, Roark outplayed Bray, did you not? Not that Roark did what he needed to do for Kentucky better than Bray did for Tennessee. Fact is, Roark did nothing but run the ball. He was a running back, not a QB, he took snaps to run the ball. But please, continue to tell us how 4 for 7 for 15 yards is a trailblazing day for a QB.

Now I see we have moved on to the team concept, which is off topic. Nobody here is going to dispute that Tennessee played like crap against Kentucky. But to say that Roark had anything to do with Kentucky's win is laughable. Kentucky scored 10 points, 7 of those they shouldn't have scored if the Refs knew what a fumble was. (Yes I know, blame the refs, blah blah blah).
 
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99gator said:
this is not a argument that roark is a good qb. this is not an argument that roark played well in his game vs. tennessee.

it is an argument that roark did his job playing qb for kentucky on that day better than bray did that day for tennessee.

now, you're going to call me out for being ignorant when only mighty western kentucky put up less points on kentucky on the season.

so, you're right. my bad. bray made roark look like a chump in comparison. i mean the way tennessee moved the ball up and down the field that day for 276 total yards.

breathtaking performance
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Are you UTVolKeith by chance?
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Back peddling I see. You said, Roark outplayed Bray, did you not? Not that Roark did what he needed to do for Kentucky better than Bray did for Tennessee. Fact is, Roark did nothing but run the ball. He was a running back, not a QB, he took snaps to run the ball. But please, continue to tell us how 4 for 7 for 15 yards is a trailblazing day for a QB.

Now I see we have moved on to the team concept, which is off topic. Nobody here is going to dispute that Tennessee played like crap against Kentucky. But to say that Roark had anything to do with Kentucky's win is laughable. Kentucky scored 10 points, 7 of those they shouldn't have scored if the Refs knew what a fumble was. (Yes I know, blame the refs, blah blah blah).
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i haven't backed down. he outplayed bray. is that clear enough for you?

do you want to create a thread with a poll of who had the better game that day, bray or roark?

i'd be more than happy to do that.

again, i guess wuerffel outplayed tommie frazier because frazier did not throw the ball
 
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99gator said:
i haven't backed down. he outplayed bray. is that clear enough for you?

do you want to create a thread with a poll of who had the better game that day, bray or roark?

i'd be more than happy to do that.

again, i guess wuerffel outplayed tommie frazier because frazier did not throw the ball
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4-7 for 15 yards. 24 attempts 124 yards rushing. So 139 total yards.

I'd say that was the best Qb performance of the year.
 
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The Gator fans are starting to really show their ignorance.

I've figured this '99gayturd' guy out though. On his own team's boards, he can't show his face without being laughed out of the room

So he comes here. Of course, he still gets laughed at, but it doesn't hurt him so much, as it's not his own laughing at him.
 
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bray going pro next year but before everyone talks him up.need to hope he can beat a team with a winning rec and in the sec
 
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