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saw a Tweet that said former players from 02-08 badmouthing CDD and staff were responsible as a whole for CPF being fired. Seems to be a true statement if you think about it..

Im off the fence, I think we are so close right now. Resetting would not be good. Give CDD at least another year to stock the shelves and get this thing right. Im all VOL so whatever happens I will be rooting for Vols no matter what.

BEAT BAMA
 
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I truly respect your opinion sir. With that said, the thought of a Dooley coached team in autzen stadium next year makes me absolutely cringe
 
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I would have far more confidence of a Charlie Strong led team in Autzen over a Dooley led team.

I wouldn't. Just because he can win in the Big East (the weakest of the BCS conferences) doesn't mean he can waltz an SEC team into Eugene with two games under his belt and hang with one of the nation's top teams. Winning that Oregon game next year is going to be a very, very tall task regardless of coach. I'm not so sure a new guy is going to have the kind of instant success everyone wants. If Tennessee does go that route after this year and the new guy wins right off the bat, that's great. I would love to be proven wrong. However, it would take a miracle for anyone to go into Autzen in their third game as HC at Tennessee and compete for more than a half.
 
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saw a Tweet that said former players from 02-08 badmouthing CDD and staff were responsible as a whole for CPF being fired. Seems to be a true statement if you think about it..

Im off the fence, I think we are so close right now. Resetting would not be good. Give CDD at least another year to stock the shelves and get this thing right. Im all VOL so whatever happens I will be rooting for Vols no matter what.

BEAT BAMA


I've read just about every thread on the board over the past few weeks. IMHO, the following two posts from mlsoft are probably the most logical and well thought out that I have seen.

If Dooley finishes 7-5 and only loses to top 20 teams which we were expected to lose, then he will have made substantial progress over the previous two years. "Substantial progress" is the criteria that Hart laid down for Dooley to be retained.

I would also note that both Kiffin and Fulmer (in his last year) lost games to unranked teams which we were favored to beat.

The bottom line is that Dooley took over this program on short notice right before NSD when it was an absolute train wreck that had the lowest level of talent in the modern era and was under the threat of NCAA sanctions. Dooley accepted the job as a five year rebuilding effort at a time when Tennessee was a job that nobody else was willing to take on. After only two and a half years into what everyone expected to be at least a five year project we have made huge strides in the offense,.especially in the run game and pass protection -- statistically, we are now among the most potent offenses in the nation. Overall, our special teams play is far better than before Dooley took over (especially the kickoff and punt coverage) and most importantly, in contrast to the latter Fulmer years and the year of "the Kiffin", Dooley has vastly improved the overall level of talent on our roster by targeting recruits who are not only outstanding football players, but who are young men of character as well.

The final task is to make the necessary changes on defense to bring it up to the same level as the offense, and based on what he has accomplished so far, I have every confidence Dooley will get that done, making Tennessee a contender once again. Overall, it is extremely hard for any rational person to deny that Dooley has met and even exceeded the criteria set down by Hart to retain his job.

Tennessee will reach its goal of competing for championships much faster if the fan base will just get behind our team and stop sabotaging our recruiting efforts by constantly going on public message boards to gripe and call for Dooley to be fired. Apparently they do not understand that even if their wish were to be granted, those very actions make it highly unlikely that a quality replacement for Dooley would be willing to take the job.

mlsoft

Try rational thinking for a change -- it may even lead you to a whole new outlook on life. First, we would not have "the most potent passing attack in the game and a very mature offensive line", nor would we have "the weapons we [have]" if not for Dooley. He was intimately involved in recruiting all but a very few of our players and has overseen every bit of coaching that they have received since they have been here. Ultimately, after the Lord, we have to thank Dooley for everything positive about the current edition of the Vols.

I know this will shock you, and if you wish you may continue to believe your delusion that we were "supposed to beat Mississippi State", but you are dead wrong in that conclusion. The people who know the most about college football and "who should beat whom" -- the folks that make the lines and those who bet them, as well as the majority of sports commentators agreed that Mississippi State was the team that was "supposed to" win.

I know your were shocked and angry that you lost your money, but go back and check the sources you trust and yes, they will all tell you that MSU was favored to win the game.

Your anger and the anger of "fans" who think like you are severely harming the program you claim to love because your posts screaming for Dooley to be fired are not only making our program and fans a national laughing stock, but more importantly they are destroying our ability to recruit elite players and will set us back several years or more in our goal of returning to the top. Be careful what you wish for -- what makes you so sure that if your wish is granted that the next coach will do better than Dooley?? Then what will we do and where will the money come from to do it???

mlsoft

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...oaching-rumors-speculation-2.html#post7449112
 
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I wouldn't. Just because he can win in the Big East (the weakest of the BCS conferences) doesn't mean he can waltz an SEC team into Eugene with two games under his belt and hang with one of the nation's top teams. Winning that Oregon game next year is going to be a very, very tall task regardless of coach. I'm not so sure a new guy is going to have the kind of instant success everyone wants. If Tennessee does go that route after this year and the new guy wins right off the bat, that's great. I would love to be proven wrong. However, it would take a miracle for anyone to go into Autzen in their third game as HC at Tennessee and compete for more than a half.

And you think that Dooley can out-coach Chip Kelly??? If you say yes, you are a complete moron!!!
 
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I think CDD and this coaching staff are better than most people on VN would ever believe.

If we were in year 2 or 3 of our new 3-4 D where the players knew everything and didn't have to react so slowly I believe we would have Wins against MSU and UGA and probably against floriDUHHH too.

We simply don't have our D down pat and we don't have enough SEC type/future NFL players on our roster...YET!

Nick Saban made CDD his assistant HEAD Coach for smart reasons and not because CDD is a bad coach.

I'll believe the best college coach/recruiter in the nation before I'll believe UNrealistic, OVER expecting arm chair coaches on VN.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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I think CDD and this coaching staff are better than most people on VN would ever believe.

If we were in year 2 or 3 of our new 3-4 D where the players knew everything and didn't have to react so slowly I believe we would have Wins against MSU and UGA and probably against floriDUHHH too.

We simply don't have our D down pat and we don't have enough SEC type/future NFL players on our roster...YET!

Nick Saban made CDD his assistant HEAD Coach for smart reasons and not because CDD is a bad coach.

I'll believe the best college coach/recruiter in the nation before I'll believe UNrealistic, OVER expecting arm chair coaches on VN.

VFL...GBO!!!

Have you looked at Bama's official coaching roster?

Being an Assistant/Associate Head Coach is meaningless. I think even the damned equipment manager is one.

If you think it's anything but Nick Saban's team you're clueless. It's nothing but an arbitrary title.
 
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And you think that Dooley can out-coach Chip Kelly??? If you say yes, you are a complete moron!!!

Uhhhh, he didn't say that at all.

I also believe that a stable Dooley led team would be more successful than Strong with a new offense and or defense.
 
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saw a Tweet that said former players from 02-08 badmouthing CDD and staff were responsible as a whole for CPF being fired. Seems to be a true statement if you think about it..

Im off the fence, I think we are so close right now. Resetting would not be good. Give CDD at least another year to stock the shelves and get this thing right. Im all VOL so whatever happens I will be rooting for Vols no matter what.

BEAT BAMA

No.
 
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Going into 2013 with Dools is a sure way for UT to tell the college football nation that we now accept our place in the bottom of the SEC. I was thinking about the buyout and all the talk of we can't afford a new coach. Only other thing I can come up with is for Hart to go out and find the best OC & DC for around 2-3 million dollars(1-1.5 each) and more less let them run the gameday/game decisions. Dooley can stand in as HC(Thats all he has really done anyways) and he can help recruit. 1.5 mil for an OC/DC is top money. Let's get back to the 4-3 and see if we can make something happen next year. JMO

I noticed there are only a couple OC/DC making over 1 million. We are currently paying our OC around 600, and our DC 800. Obviously, there would be much better choices out there.
 
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saw a Tweet that said former players from 02-08 badmouthing CDD and staff were responsible as a whole for CPF being fired. Seems to be a true statement if you think about it..

Im off the fence, I think we are so close right now. Resetting would not be good. Give CDD at least another year to stock the shelves and get this thing right. Im all VOL so whatever happens I will be rooting for Vols no matter what.

BEAT BAMA

Lol, Candy also says they are close every year! There's always next year.
 
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I'm on the fence myself. We are a few busted plays from being 5-0 going to that Mississippi state game. The defense never gave up the home run there but sure gave up 10-15 yards at a time pretty often. We are a defense away from undefeated right now.

We are really between a rock and a hard place.
 
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