Tua will never make a great NFL qb

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We're way too impatient with QB's in today's NFL. Tua has awesome instincts and some physical tools that nobody else has. The cerebral part of the game is where he's lacking, and that usually takes dudes years to get, if they're afforded enough time. He's not dynamic enough as a scrambler to excel as other young QB's do, so it's just a matter of how much progress his brain will make in the next year or 2.
 
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n_huffhines said:
We're way too impatient with QB's in today's NFL. Tua has awesome instincts and some physical tools that nobody else has. The cerebral part of the game is where he's lacking, and that usually takes dudes years to get, if they're afforded enough time. He's not dynamic enough as a scrambler to excel as other young QB's do, so it's just a matter of how much progress his brain will make in the next year or 2.
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Okay, I'll bite. What physical tools does he have that no one else has?
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Okay, I'll bite. What physical tools does he have that no one else has?
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He has a shortcut in his throwing motion. Say he's looking off a safety and then turns his hips towards the actual target, he drops his elbow at the same time that he's shifting his hips, which is unnatural. Everybody else shifts hips and then drops the elbow. It's only a fraction of a second difference, but it makes a big difference because DB's are trying to read and react to that shift and it makes them a step late.

Dilfer broke this down on the Russillo pod.
 
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n_huffhines said:
He has a shortcut in his throwing motion. Say he's looking off a safety and then turns his hips towards the actual target, he drops his elbow at the same time that he's shifting his hips, which is unnatural. Everybody else shifts hips and then drops the elbow. It's only a fraction of a second difference, but it makes a big difference because DB's are trying to read and react to that shift and it makes them a step late.

Dilfer broke this down on the Russillo pod.
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Interesting. A lot of times things that work well against college players will not work as well against pros. It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out in this case.
 
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hndog609 said:
Doesn't that rather beg the question as to why you would possibly find yourself interested in even viewing, much less posting in this forum? TN now has an NFL football team operating out of it and lots of people here enjoy that being the case and being fans. How that can be in any way contentious is frankly a bit bewildering.
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My viewing curiosity was peeked when I decided to investigate why a thread about a former Alabama quarterback appeared on Volnation. The team that operates professionally in the great state of Tennessee relocated from Houston, Texas. Originated not in Tennessee. But Texas. If you have any questions @me…but read my previous in-thread posts first.
 
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bray2milton said:
My viewing curiosity was peeked when I decided to investigate why a thread about a former Alabama quarterback appeared on Volnation. The team that operates professionally in the great state of Tennessee relocated from Houston, Texas. Originated not in Tennessee. But Texas. If you have any questions @me…but read my previous in-thread posts first.
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You are a idiot!
 
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bray2milton said:
My viewing curiosity was peeked when I decided to investigate why a thread about a former Alabama quarterback appeared on Volnation. The team that operates professionally in the great state of Tennessee relocated from Houston, Texas. Originated not in Tennessee. But Texas. If you have any questions @me…but read my previous in-thread posts first.
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If it was on the actual Vols Football page that's actually fair. (as opposed to the NFL/NCAA forum)

Having said the above the rest it's still pretty odd for someone who unambiguously stated "I don't like any NFL team" to launch into an anti-rant against something as trivial as team origins relative to their fanbase.

Should Lions fans care the team originated in Portsmouth, Ohio? Of course not.
The Redskins/WFT originally from Boston?
Rams originally from Cleveland?
Cardinals from Chicago? (Nevermind you being in St Louis or Arizona)
You think Chief fans care one bit they started out as the Dallas Texans?
Indianapolis fans do not (and should not) care about the Baltimore origin any more than Vegas fans should care about the Raiders history, etc.

Look, Joe Milton is from FL, suited up and played at Michigan, entered the transfer portal and now plays here. TN didn't have an NFL team, Houston entered the transfer portal and is now playing here. It's obviously your prerogative to "not like" an NFL team or the NFL in general for that matter. The fact remains that many people do and a good chunk of them have their "home" team actually originate from somewhere else. I hope, with even a modicum of reflection, you can grasp that disparaging the choice to pull for that team (as cited above there's no shortage of examples) comes across as, at best, pretty silly.
 
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hndog609 said:
If it was on the actual Vols Football page that's actually fair. (as opposed to the NFL/NCAA forum)

Having said the above the rest it's still pretty odd for someone who unambiguously stated "I don't like any NFL team" to launch into an anti-rant against something as trivial as team origins relative to their fanbase.

Should Lions fans care the team originated in Portsmouth, Ohio? Of course not.
The Redskins/WFT originally from Boston?
Rams originally from Cleveland?
Cardinals from Chicago? (Nevermind you being in St Louis or Arizona)
You think Chief fans care one bit they started out as the Dallas Texans?
Indianapolis fans do not (and should not) care about the Baltimore origin any more than Vegas fans should care about the Raiders history, etc.

Look, Joe Milton is from FL, suited up and played at Michigan, entered the transfer portal and now plays here. TN didn't have an NFL team, Houston entered the transfer portal and is now playing here. It's obviously your prerogative to "not like" an NFL team or the NFL in general for that matter. The fact remains that many people do and a good chunk of them have their "home" team actually originate from somewhere else. I hope, with even a modicum of reflection, you can grasp that disparaging the choice to pull for that team (as cited above there's no shortage of examples) comes across as, at best, pretty silly.
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My “silly” opinion apparently triggered you enough to write a 1000 word essay. You do not agree with my logic which is OK. We have differing opinions. If my “disparaging” opinion deters a Oiler/Titan fan from said team’s fandom then that person would fall in the weak minded/sheep category. This is my outlook on the team from Texas. I’m not the only one who feels this way. This particular thread was on the Volnation home page first by the way. It was moved to this forum. I often find that people think you are ranting if you aren’t saying what they want to hear. Obviously that is the case here. Having said all that….we will have to agree to disagree.
 
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hndog609 said:
Doesn't that rather beg the question as to why you would possibly find yourself interested in even viewing, much less posting in this forum? TN now has an NFL football team operating out of it and lots of people here enjoy that being the case and being fans. How that can be in any way contentious is frankly a bit bewildering.
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It's odd but I could see someone being a fan of the NFL but not having a particular team to root for; before the Titans showed up I was a big NFL fan but I didn't particularly root for any specific team much because I didn't feel much of a connection.
 
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bray2milton said:
My “silly” opinion apparently triggered you enough to write a 1000 word essay. You do not agree with my logic which is OK. We have differing opinions. If my “disparaging” opinion deters a Oiler/Titan fan from said team’s fandom then that person would fall in the weak minded/sheep category. This is my outlook on the team from Texas. I’m not the only one who feels this way. This particular thread was on the Volnation home page first by the way. It was moved to this forum. I often find that people think you are ranting if you aren’t saying what they want to hear. Obviously that is the case here. Having said all that….we will have to agree to disagree.
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LOL...you're using way too much club. Please note as opposed to name calling I quite clearly laid out how taking whatever biased stance you choose is you prerogative. My only point, which I thought being thorough as opposed to quippy would actually seem more decorous, was to set forth the entirely vettable basis for my (and indeed the overwhelming majority of fans) view regarding the matter. It's an exceedingly defensible position.

By all means you do you...it costs me nothing. (I actually gained knowing the Rams started in Cleveland, if I knew that I'd forgotten) ALL fandom is definitionally subjective but I find it very odd when people are of a mind to go negative on who someone should/shouldn't deservedly follow.

Be safe out there.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
It's odd but I could see someone being a fan of the NFL but not having a particular team to root for; before the Titans showed up I was a big NFL fan but I didn't particularly root for any specific team much because I didn't feel much of a connection.
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In and of itself I'd agree. If you approach it as "football is football" and like watching games whoever they may be it's understandable. Hell, sometimes it's more the "who" than "where". (I'm looking at you Manning fans) It's when someone takes a "I don't have a favorite team...but feel comfortable dissing you for the team you choose" that's just...weird.
 
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hndog609 said:
LOL...you're using way too much club. Please note as opposed to name calling I quite clearly laid out how taking whatever biased stance you choose is you prerogative. My only point, which I thought being thorough as opposed to quippy would actually seem more decorous, was to set forth the entirely vettable basis for my (and indeed the overwhelming majority of fans) view regarding the matter. It's an exceedingly defensible position.

By all means you do you...it costs me nothing. (I actually gained knowing the Rams started in Cleveland, if I knew that I'd forgotten) ALL fandom is definitionally subjective but I find it very odd when people are of a mind to go negative on who someone should/shouldn't deservedly follow.

Be safe out there.
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Condescending yet heartwarming. I will do me and I will stay safe. Thank you sir.
 
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Jaylen Waddle down. Looks serious.


edit: He walked off but rolled around in some pain. Probably pulling an LSU.
 
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