The media should be paying TN for giving them some crap to sling back at us. If this Schiano dude is innocent then he'll have plenty of opportunities. We've not ruined his career. His future employwrs could find this same info if they looked. But somehow we "falsely accuse" a guy and there's no way to draw their own conclusions? For many years my friends of different schools have always talked about how ESPN especially has nothing good to say about TN. Have we forgotten the title ix coverage by everyone in the media? Weren't we also guilty until proven innocent? Keep giving the middle finger to ESPN and keep fighting the good fight. People will draw their own conclusions and we will gain more standing for what's right! They need crap or they have nothing to sensationalize.
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This wasn't crap though. This was a matter of what is right and what is wrong. As a fan base we don't get much say in most of the actions of our team or university. But when the time comes that someone or somebodies (John Currie and Mr. Haslam) try to put this on us we have a right to say NO. We should exercise our ability to say who represents our program.
The ESPN nonsense is garbage. The same fools that are blasting our fans for saying no to somebody with this potential background were the same fools calling us out for the Title IX lawsuit like everything in those complaints was a fact. Enough is enough. This university and this football team represents us, we should get some say in who that is.
If ESPN doesn't like us or our morals that is fine. We were here before them, and based on their current financial state we will be here after them.
The ESPN nonsense is garbage. The same fools that are blasting our fans for saying no to somebody with this potential background were the same fools calling us out for the Title IX lawsuit like everything in those complaints was a fact. Enough is enough. This university and this football team represents us, we should get some say in who that is.
If ESPN doesn't like us or our morals that is fine. We were here before them, and based on their current financial state we will be here after them.
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I don't think anyone in the media is saying that Tennessee fans didn't have a right to protest a hire (setting aside the character attacks). I think the media is saying that Tennessee fans were crazy to protest a good hiring choice, especially with so many of the good options off the table. The AD has been hamstrung as a result, and whoever we hire next (and probably the person after that) will not be an ideal candidate - just someone willing to risk the next three to five years of their career on a volatile situation.
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Thought it was interesting to see the outcome. Most decisions do not get handled in a swift manner like that and I wont take it down a political rabbit trail. The weekend showed me dont mess with college football especially in TN. Trend setters and will be interesting to see what fan base is next to voice their opinion. UGA had a few years before we said no more... but social media was not used like this. Good for yall!
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What's your evidence that it was a bad hiring choice? I cited this elsewhere but Saban himself had a career 60% percentage prior to being hired by LSU. At Michigan State he had one 9 win season, one 7 win seasons, and three 6 win seasons. And his stint in the NFL wasn't much better, (although he much closer to .500 than Schiano was).
Wins and losses are not a direct correlation with performance at a more prestigious job with better resources and more power. Morever, there's a lot of things that go into making a hire of this sort - personality, the needs of the program, the trust of the department and the AD, the program's momentum, you name it.
Saban also had high visibility wins over quality opponents in a Power 5 conference. He also finished in the top ten his last year.
Yes, much goes into a decision like this--or at least it should. And one of those things should be the reaction of the fanbase. That clearly wasn't considered in this case.
And I still haven't seen any evidence that Schiano was a good hire for the Tennessee program...especially considering the coaches that were and are available this year.
Yes, much goes into a decision like this--or at least it should. And one of those things should be the reaction of the fanbase. That clearly wasn't considered in this case.
And I still haven't seen any evidence that Schiano was a good hire for the Tennessee program...especially considering the coaches that were and are available this year.
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I would argue all big time jobs across all genres of sports are volatile and all big time jobs in the SEC are more volatile than any other conference. That's why we have seen 4 SEC coaches get the boot this year and why Les Miles and Mark Richt got the boot before that. Had Vanderbilt gotten beat Saturday I'd venture to say Derek Mason might have been shown the exit as well.
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No one, and I mean, no one could have predicted a segment of Tennessee fans excoriating Schiano as a hire. I'm sure Schiano would not have signed had he thought Tennessee fans would respond so savagely. Currie may have made a mistake in his process, but to expect such a response? How could he? I still don't think people understand how unprecedented Sunday's events were. It's all smiles and high fives on this board, but to everyone looking in from the outside, and when I say everyone else I'm including potential coaching hires, we do not appear like a stable situation at all. Forget the usual "volatility" of SEC coaching, UT fans shouted down a coaching hire and have moved on to threatening to protest the AD, the school president, the boosters, you name it, and get them all fired. That's anything but stable. And anything but attractive to potential coaching candidates.
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