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DC_Vol said:
Mick, I’ll be happy to trade compare administrative postions, actions, and inactions with you.

But my comment was more aimed at this notion that Trump had the party platform changed to go easy on the Russkies. The article I bumped debunked that (as was done at the time). Thoughts?
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First paragraph. Are you trying to point out anything different on the Ukraine issue. It's very direct in relation to the R's stance and the D's stance on arming Ukraine. I also pointed out Trump's stance, he was more with the D's at first and I think opinion on Arming Ukraine has evolved for both parties. It's not like the D's are beating the drum not to arm Ukraine. Of course this is my opinion.
 
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Mick said:
First paragraph. Are you trying to point out anything different on the Ukraine issue. It's very direct in relation to the R's stance and the D's stance on arming Ukraine. I also pointed out Trump's stance, he was more with the D's at first and I think opinion on Arming Ukraine has evolved for both parties. It's not like the D's are beating the drum not to arm Ukraine. Of course this is my opinion.
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I want to know more about this platform change. What was it changed from and what to?
 
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Mick said:
Actually it is inconsequential to the discussion but you seem hung up on it. Face it Arming Ukraine is not exactly the slap in the face to Russia that you let on.
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I wonder if they’ll still be touting this kind of thing when Trump attempts to leave NATO.
 
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Mick said:
Actually it is inconsequential to the discussion but you seem hung up on it. Face it Arming Ukraine is not exactly the slap in the face to Russia that you let on.

Obviously you didn't read the link I posted.
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It’s not inconsequential when it’s used as a talking point to support some affinity for the Russians.

What was the platform on Russia before and what was it changed to? Then I have some comparisons I’d like to make to what you provide to me.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Yeah, I’d say that was about the level of defense I expected.
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LOL sorry I’m not going to jump in and defend the president at every slight.

Just noting your lazy argument. But I will play along.

What are the top 5 ways you believe Trump has put himself first (versus the country, of course)? I’m ready to be convinced!!
 
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Dems, Fearing Russia Collusion Investigation Will Come Up Empty, Now Attacking Robert Mueller

Democrats, increasingly worried that Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into whether the Donald Trump campaign colluded with Russian officials to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election, have started doing something they've long criticized President Trump for: lashing out at Mueller over his "limited" probe.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) kicked off a torrent of criticism on Sunday, according to the Washington Examiner, questioning whether "Mueller has adequately investigated President Trump’s financial dealings with a German bank," and suggesting that Mueller's investigation could be so woefully incomplete that the House has no choice but to resume investigating the President themselves.
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Dems, Fearing Russia Collusion Investigation Will Come Up Empty, Now Attacking Robert Mueller
 
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DC_Vol said:
It’s not inconsequential when it’s used as a talking point to support some affinity for the Russians.

What was the platform on Russia before and what was it changed to? Then I have some comparisons I’d like to make to what you provide to me.
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Republicans say the platform was changed specifically the wording of their Ukraine stance. They are internal documents not for public consumption. If you don't believe them then there is no use in continuing. Trying to use this as a flaw in my stance that Trump is not that tough when it comes to Russia is weak at best.
 
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DC_Vol said:
LOL sorry I’m not going to jump in and defend the president at every slight.

Just noting your lazy argument. But I will play along.

What are the top 5 ways you believe Trump has put himself first (versus the country, of course)? I’m ready to be convinced!!
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1. Siding with Putin over our intelligence communities
2. Branding the media, an instrumental element of democracy, as the enemy of the people
3. Saying he would refuse to accept the election results if he lost
4. Trying to pressure to FED to lower interest rates
5. Refusing to condemn white supremacists because he knows they support him

I’m sure I’ll think of more.
 
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tvolsfan said:
1. Siding with Putin over our intelligence communities
2. Branding the media, an instrumental element of democracy, as the enemy of the people
3. Saying he would refuse to accept the election results if he lost
4. Trying to pressure to FED to lower interest rates
5. Refusing to condemn white supremacists because he knows they support him

I’m sure I’ll think of more.
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3. Versus actually not accepting the election results when she lost. MMkay
4. So overblown. We have a governor who actually wore blackface and he's still in office. The hypocrisy on this is amazing.
 
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theFallGuy said:
My point was, we have words versus actual action. The Russia investigation is all based on Hillary and the Democrats not accepting the results of the election. But I guess that is okay because mah Trump.
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You mean the investigation by republicans overseen by republicans that happened because a Republican president fired a Republican?
 
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