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volinbham said:
I have to admit; I didn't think you'd take this so hard. On the other hand you were heavily invested in the narrative relying on your Twitter sources so I guess it makes sense. I hope you'll be able to make peace with this eventually.
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I’ve never understood how one allows themslf to be that heavily invested in a politician .
 
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luthervol said:
And I've never understood how people allow themselves to be so flippant and dis-invested with having an horrendously despicable human serve as POTUS.
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Perspective ... you were going to have a horrendous POTUS in 2016 regardless of the outcome . That being said ... I would not , could not , you couldn’t beat me with brick bats and make me break down , cry , or throw a tantrum over a politician being or not being elected or how they do their job . Like I said .. I just don’t understand where the emotional investment comes from .
 
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luthervol said:
And I've never understood how people allow themselves to be so flippant and dis-invested with having an horrendously despicable human serve as POTUS.
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I’ve never understood why you can’t just accept we don’t listen to your tripe or buy into your view on this situation.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Perspective ... you were going to have a horrendous POTUS in 2016 regardless of the outcome . That being said ... I would not , could not , you couldn’t beat me with brick bats and make me break down , cry , or throw a tantrum over a politician being or not being elected or how they do their job . Like I said .. I just don’t understand where the emotional investment comes from .
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It goes much deeper than just perspective.
Back in the early 90's the Catholic Church released a catechism, I had a friend and co-worker who was a "devout" Catholic. I asked him what he thought about the church's stance on birth control (he disagreed with the stance), this led to a discussion about the weight behind the Pope's words. He ended up basically saying that he had never really thought about it. He then asked me how much my net pay had changed due to the new benefits package. I told him I had no clue, that I didn't know my net before the change or after. He knew both to the penny. That was a minor epiphany. Here was a "devout" Catholic who had never really thought about the weighted significance of the Pope's words but knew his net to the penny. We were polar opposites regarding the things that occupied our thoughts and minds and it really had nothing to do with perspective but with priority.

Also - don't forget the whole "he beat out 16 republicans in the primary" part.
 
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luthervol said:
It goes much deeper than just perspective.
Back in the early 90's the Catholic Church released a catechism, I had a friend and co-worker who was a "devout" Catholic. I asked him what he thought about the church's stance on birth control (he disagreed with the stance), this led to a discussion about the weight behind the Pope's words. He ended up basically saying that he had never really thought about it. He then asked me how much my net pay had changed due to the new benefits package. I told him I had no clue, that I didn't know my net before the change or after. He knew both to the penny. That was a minor epiphany. Here was a "devout" Catholic who had never really thought about the weighted significance of the Pope's words but knew his net to the penny. We were polar opposites regarding the things that occupied our thoughts and minds and it really had nothing to do with perspective but with priority.

Also - don't forget the whole "he beat out 16 republicans in the primary" part.
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While you two were having this discussion , did either of you break down and start crying over the popes words , how much money he made or the significant and possibly life changing event that would someday come into his life of this pope you were talking about dying and being replaced by another man ?
 
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0nelilreb said:
While you two were having this discussion , did either of you break down and start crying over the popes words , how much money he made or the significant and possibly life changing event that would someday come into his life of this pope you were talking about dying and being replaced by another man ?
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No, but I'm certain we walked away from the conversation with completely different insights.
 
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luthervol said:
What an absolute moron.
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This is what happens when you go all in on something like Russian collusion and it’s proven to be hoax . You had to know or Suspect that if you went that hard after him and you missed that this would happen . We aren’t done yet either , if your side doubles down on the hoax like they will probably do for the next two years .. you’ll get him re-elected .
 
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0nelilreb said:
This is what happens when you go all in on something like Russian collusion and it’s proven to be hoax . You had to know or Suspect that if you went that hard after him and you missed that this would happen . We aren’t done yet either , if your side doubles down on the hoax like they will probably do for the next two years .. you’ll get him re-elected .
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There was nothing proven to be a hoax. There was ample evidence warranting an investigation. We had an investigation and it turned out there was no collusion. That's the way it is suppose to work.
I'm willing to double down on the ongoing investigations.
 
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luthervol said:
There was nothing proven to be a hoax. There was ample evidence warranting an investigation. We had an investigation and it turned out there was no collusion. That's the way it is suppose to work.
I'm willing to double down on the ongoing investigations.
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Wait until you see what was actually done to warrant this so called investigation. It's coming. Just be patient.
 
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luthervol said:
There was nothing proven to be a hoax. There was ample evidence warranting an investigation. We had an investigation and it turned out there was no collusion. That's the way it is suppose to work.
I'm willing to double down on the ongoing investigations.
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Funny how you people want the full Muell report with full transparency yet there hasn’t been any evidence presented for why this investigation started. Just a whole bunch of “trust me” statements.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Yes because you had a rational and logical discussion and kept your emotions out of it which leads us right back to my point .
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And my point was that people have differing reactions to the Trump fiasco, not so much due to different perspectives, but due to different core values, priorities, and views of "life".
 
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luthervol said:
There was nothing proven to be a hoax. There was ample evidence warranting an investigation. We had an investigation and it turned out there was no collusion. That's the way it is suppose to work.
I'm willing to double down on the ongoing investigations.
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The evidence it was based on was provided by Hillary Clinton, the FBI, foreign agent Steele, and was fraudulent. This was an attempt at a coup and it failed. I doubt this is over since Huber is investigating.
 
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0nelilreb said:
This is what happens when you go all in on something like Russian collusion and it’s proven to be hoax . You had to know or Suspect that if you went that hard after him and you missed that this would happen . We aren’t done yet either , if your side doubles down on the hoax like they will probably do for the next two years .. you’ll get him re-elected .
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It was proven that the Russians were trying to collude with team Trump. You might be able to say it was a hoax if Jr., Kushner, and the campaign manager Manafort didn't meet with the Russians.
 
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davethevol said:
The evidence it was based on was provided by Hillary Clinton, the FBI, foreign agent Steele, and was fraudulent. This was an attempt at a coup and it failed. I doubt this is over since Huber is investigating.
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It was based on known Russian attempts to influence the election in Trump's favor, the lied about hotel meeting, the firing of Comey, the undisclosed connections between Russia and members of Trump's inner circle, and Trump's idiotic plea to Russia on national TV to release the e-mails...among other things.
 
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Mick said:
It was proven that the Russians were trying to collude with team Trump. You might be able to say it was a hoax if Jr., Kushner, and the campaign manager Manafort didn't meet with the Russians.
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It doesn’t matter what I say it is , Mueller says no one from Trumps admin. colluded with Russia dispite having the chance to . Doubling down on that after it’s been proven false will get him re-elected , sit back and watch .
 
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