TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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evillawyer said:
So what's the connection to Downer above and beyond him executing--in 2006--an official government document (the one donating money to Clinton Foundation) in his official government capacity on behalf of the Australian government? You gotta admit that seems a wee bit tenuous, no?
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So if I get a chance I’ll try to dig it back up but I’m pretty sure more dots got connected.
 
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Well, more adisastrous details for the phony Trump-Russia narrative.
Sorry Trump haters, I just think it's definitely burnt toast time, and your loaf is empty.

Before the FBI began investigating the Trump campaign there were at least 7 different instances when Trump campaign advisers were approached with “Russia-related offers” by Western intelligence assets and Clinton-affiliated political operatives.

2 approaches were made by publicly identified informant Stefan Halper. Another by “a man who swore in court that he had worked as an FBI informant.” 2 others were made by figures associated w/Western intel. Another 2 included political operatives, one foreign, w/ties to Clintons.

https://www.realclearinvestigations..._preludes_of_the_fbis_trump-russia_probe.html

Can you say set up?
 
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Vol0725 said:
Well, more adisastrous details for the phony Trump-Russia narrative.
Sorry Trump haters, I just think it's definitely burnt toast time, and your loaf is empty.

Before the FBI began investigating the Trump campaign there were at least 7 different instances when Trump campaign advisers were approached with “Russia-related offers” by Western intelligence assets and Clinton-affiliated political operatives.

2 approaches were made by publicly identified informant Stefan Halper. Another by “a man who swore in court that he had worked as an FBI informant.” 2 others were made by figures associated w/Western intel. Another 2 included political operatives, one foreign, w/ties to Clintons.

https://www.realclearinvestigations..._preludes_of_the_fbis_trump-russia_probe.html

Can you say set up?
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Can you say tin foil hat?
 
#9,580
#9,580
Vol0725 said:
Well, more adisastrous details for the phony Trump-Russia narrative.
Sorry Trump haters, I just think it's definitely burnt toast time, and your loaf is empty.

Before the FBI began investigating the Trump campaign there were at least 7 different instances when Trump campaign advisers were approached with “Russia-related offers” by Western intelligence assets and Clinton-affiliated political operatives.

2 approaches were made by publicly identified informant Stefan Halper. Another by “a man who swore in court that he had worked as an FBI informant.” 2 others were made by figures associated w/Western intel. Another 2 included political operatives, one foreign, w/ties to Clintons.

https://www.realclearinvestigations..._preludes_of_the_fbis_trump-russia_probe.html

Can you say set up?
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Are you seriously setting up an entrapment defense?


That's hilarious.


Plus it does not work for Manafort or Flynn, who were already under their spell. and you'd be confessing that Trump and his family members are so stupid they fell for it.


Meh.



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Mick said:
What are you suggesting? The CIA wanted to keep their secrets secret. Well no sh!t. Warner role was that of a go between to see if congress was interested in anything Assange had. What are you suggesting was wrong about any of this? Please do tell.
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CIA saw real value in talking to Assange and was actively trying to make it happen.

Comey/Warner shut it down the conduit for some unknown reason though we know Warner was working through a contact to get dirt on Trump/Russia.

You don't think some explanation is needed as to why Comey exercised this power and soured the deal?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Are you seriously setting up an entrapment defense?


That's hilarious.


Plus it does not work for Manafort or Flynn, who were already under their spell. and you'd be confessing that Trump and his family members are so stupid they fell for it.


Meh.



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Manafort and Flynn aren't charged with collusion. Plenty of people fall for entrapment.

Not saying that happened but your counterarguments don't do anything to suggest it didn't happen.
 
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volinbham said:
Manafort and Flynn aren't charged with collusion. Plenty of people fall for entrapment.

Not saying that happened but your counterarguments don't do anything to suggest it didn't happen.
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I meant to say that some level of collusion is ok here because they were at some level "tricked" into it. That's just a very weak argument.

It's not buying a car with maintenance coverage you don't need.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I meant to say that some level of collusion is ok here because they were at some level "tricked" into it. That's just a very weak argument.

It's not buying a car with maintenance coverage you don't need.
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if it was setup it means that whatever collusion Trump is supposedly guilty of, someone else is actually guilty of to set it up.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I meant to say that some level of collusion is ok here because they were at some level "tricked" into it. That's just a very weak argument.

It's not buying a car with maintenance coverage you don't need.
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if the only collusion was collusion set up then there needs to be a hella good reason for it to be set up in the first place and some high level authorization to do so.
 
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Wherever you fall politically, you gotta admit this is pretty damn witty.

DC hotel bar offers 'Mueller's Trump Card' cocktail

The drink is a combination of a Moscow Mule, highlighting special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian collusion with the Trump campaign in the 2016 elections; and a Dark and Stormy, a reference to the investigation into Trump’s personal lawyer who paid off adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep their alleged extramarital affair a secret leading up to the elections.
 
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volinbham said:
if the only collusion was collusion set up then there needs to be a hella good reason for it to be set up in the first place and some high level authorization to do so.
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But, you know, the FBI loves those stings because they work so well when they can't do the actual work to find someone guilty.
 
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evillawyer said:
Wherever you fall politically, you gotta admit this is pretty damn witty.

DC hotel bar offers 'Mueller's Trump Card' cocktail

The drink is a combination of a Moscow Mule, highlighting special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian collusion with the Trump campaign in the 2016 elections; and a Dark and Stormy, a reference to the investigation into Trump’s personal lawyer who paid off adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep their alleged extramarital affair a secret leading up to the elections.
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The Dark and Stormy has been around a long time - it's a good drink. One word of wisdom, DO NOT order any drink on a DC menu that uses the word "improved" in the name - ever.
 
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evillawyer said:
Wherever you fall politically, you gotta admit this is pretty damn witty.

DC hotel bar offers 'Mueller's Trump Card' cocktail

The drink is a combination of a Moscow Mule, highlighting special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian collusion with the Trump campaign in the 2016 elections; and a Dark and Stormy, a reference to the investigation into Trump’s personal lawyer who paid off adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep their alleged extramarital affair a secret leading up to the elections.
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Dink is in DC????
 
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evillawyer said:
Wherever you fall politically, you gotta admit this is pretty damn witty.

DC hotel bar offers 'Mueller's Trump Card' cocktail

The drink is a combination of a Moscow Mule, highlighting special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian collusion with the Trump campaign in the 2016 elections; and a Dark and Stormy, a reference to the investigation into Trump’s personal lawyer who paid off adult film star Stormy Daniels to keep their alleged extramarital affair a secret leading up to the elections.
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Nice
 
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evillawyer said:
Looks like Ellis is not your champion. Just beech slapped Manafort. Told you guys a month ago court observers said he almost always gave the party he was favoring a hard time.

BREAKING: Judge Denies Manafort’s Request To Dismiss Mueller Case In Virginia – Talking Points Memo
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Hmmmmm... not totally.

During the hearing on Manafort’s request, Ellis posed sharp and skeptical questions at the attorneys for Mueller’s team. That skepticism came through in his opinion Tuesday, even as he decided that a dismissal of the charges against Manafort was not warranted.

“[T]that conclusion should not be read as approval of the practice of appointing Special Counsel to prosecute cases of alleged high-level misconduct,” Ellis said. “Here, we have a prosecution of a campaign official, not a government official, for acts that occurred well before the Presidential election. To be sure, it is plausible, indeed ultimately persuasive here, to argue that the investigation and prosecution has some relevance to the election which occurred months if not years after the alleged misconduct.”
He argued that a “a bipartisan commission with subpoena power” would be a “better mechanism for addressing concerns about election interference.”

“The appointment of special prosecutors has the potential to disrupt these checks and balances, and to inject a level of toxic partisanship into investigation of matters of public importance,” Ellis said, adding the the U.S. system of checks and balances “ultimately works only if people of virtue, sensitivity, and courage, not affected by the winds of public opinion, choose to work within the confines of the law.”

“Let us hope that the people in charge of this prosecution, including the Special Counsel and the Assistant Attorney General, are such people,” he said.
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I don’t read that as a beaming endorsement. In fact it reads like he’s saying it shouldn’t be in front of him at all
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, but he didn't dismiss the indictment, did he, as so many on here were salivating over.
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Lol I guess. But we also admitted it would most likely get sent back to Judge Jackson didn’t we? Im pretty sure I admitted that. I’m also pretty sure I tried to bait some of you with outright dismissal too. Mick was pretty fired up I remember. Good times. 😂
 
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evillawyer said:
Looks like Ellis is not your champion. Just beech slapped Manafort. Told you guys a month ago court observers said he almost always gave the party he was favoring a hard time.

BREAKING: Judge Denies Manafort’s Request To Dismiss Mueller Case In Virginia – Talking Points Memo
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Who cares about Manafort, it's an old case Mueller's team dug up to press him to roll. Didn't work, because there was no one or thing to roll on. Must admit, Judge Ellis's statements were pretty epic a few weeks back.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, but he didn't dismiss the indictment, did he, as so many on here were salivating over.
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The case will be in front of him after he all but derided the prosecutors, questioned their character and told them they'd better be on their best behavior before him.
 
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