TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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luthervol said:
Some people, our current president excluded, have the ability to separate personal feelings and professional duty. I would think that almost universally, people in Mueller's realm of understanding and knowledge, would have negative feelings toward the trump presidency.
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I would like to say that I am the fairest person you will meet and there is no way I would be able to separate the two if it was a person that I had that close of a relationship with. He should of recused himself. Surely there is someone that they could find that had no ties to Trump or Comey.
 
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ajvol01 said:
There was significant evidence that Hillary committed crimes.

Where's the evidence against Trump?
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There is NO 'public' evidence on Trump.

No question, in regards to Hillary.
If you had 30k+ emails and devices subpoenaed and destroyed them, what would happen to you?

It's not in debate, if there was an honest investigation (oops, I mean 'matter'), it's 100% certain that a grand jury would have been impaneled. The entire email case should not have been 'sent up' to the 7th floor of the F.B.I., it should have been sent to an outside field office.

Can't wait for the IG report.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
IS the investigation over?
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And if the IG report comes out and points to the whole basis for the special council to be null and void (Steele dossier, illegal wire taps, etc...) then why the hell should there have been a special council in the first place!

Hey I get it. Now that you’ve got it run with it and get as many blockers out in front as you can. However if there was a false start penalty you never should have gotten that chance!

All were doing right now is playing dodge ball with monkey ****. The OPR and IG reports need to get published. And if they discredit the whole basis for this witch hunt then I bet hell will break lose on both sides. The Repubs calling for investigation continuance (myself included) are gonna have to revisit that stance and consider calling off the sham.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
And if the IG report comes out and points to the whole basis for the special council to be null and void (Steele dossier, illegal wire taps, etc...) then why the hell should there have been a special council in the first place!

Hey I get it. Now that you’ve got it run with it and get as many blockers out in front as you can. However if there was a false start penalty you never should have gotten that chance!

All were doing right now is playing dodge ball with monkey ****. The OPR and IG reports need to get published. And if they discredit the whole basis for this witch hunt then I bet hell will break lose on both sides. The Repubs calling for investigation continuance (myself included) are gonna have to revisit that stance and consider calling off the sham.
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The bottom-line, the relationships between key officials involved in the Trump investigation, the Clintons, and the judicial system are all involved in convenient and strange coincidences.

Basically, it appears to be an out of control investigation. Based on what I've seen, the Mueller investigation continues to act in an unusual manner, outside of its mandate. Read this piece...Mueller Investigation: Gates Deal Violates Federal Policy | National Review


The Constitutional Appointments Clause (found in Article II, Section 2, clause 2) was designed to prevent a Robert Mueller-type prosecutor ---

How Manafort’s Motion to Dismiss Could Help General Flynn | Law & Crime
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
And if the IG report comes out and points to the whole basis for the special council to be null and void (Steele dossier, illegal wire taps, etc...) then why the hell should there have been a special council in the first place!

Hey I get it. Now that you’ve got it run with it and get as many blockers out in front as you can. However if there was a false start penalty you never should have gotten that chance!

All were doing right now is playing dodge ball with monkey ****. The OPR and IG reports need to get published. And if they discredit the whole basis for this witch hunt then I bet hell will break lose on both sides. The Repubs calling for investigation continuance (myself included) are gonna have to revisit that stance and consider calling off the sham.
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If he isn’t innocent then so be it but let it all
Play out
 
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Sandman 423 said:
I would like to say that I am the fairest person you will meet and there is no way I would be able to separate the two if it was a person that I had that close of a relationship with. He should of recused himself. Surely there is someone that they could find that had no ties to Trump or Comey.
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Why was he universally praised and supported in the beginning? Nothing has changed except the probability of guilt in the eyes of Trumpers.
 
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luthervol said:
No. Nor is the reverse true. Trump has a long history of trying to slander people not on his side. If a ruling is not going to go his way, he attacks and tries to discredit the person making the ruling. Look at his past. You guys should try really hard not to be so malleable.
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The Clintons were the best at the personal destruction of their enemies.
 
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luthervol said:
Why was he universally praised and supported in the beginning? Nothing has changed except the probability of guilt in the eyes of Trumpers.
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Universally praised by the media and D.C. politicians means universally praised by the Washington establishment that is out to get Trump.
 
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Trump hires Don Corleone to defend him. Michael and Fredo buying mattresses. Horse head delivery via FedEx to Mueller en route.

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Also of interest:

"...Trump's legal team wants the second special counsel to investigate whether FBI and Justice Department officials abused the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by using the dossier to justify spying on Page as part of the Russia probe.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions last week revealed he has tapped a former official outside the Beltway to review the need for a second special counsel, suggesting the idea is receiving a serious look."
 
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luthervol said:
Why was he universally praised and supported in the beginning? Nothing has changed except the probability of guilt in the eyes of Trumpers.
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I'm not a Trumper but I'm also not a partisan. If you can't see the conflict of interest then so be it.
Too many people are willing to look the other way when Government employees break the law because it benefits the party they support. I think the Ice has been getting thinner since the great depression and it is only a matter of time before the Republic fails if we continue this way.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
You've never held any kind of security clearance. Obviously.
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I just went through a brief OPSEC class to gain access to a military faculty. I’ve had two FBI background checks and one Homeland Security back ground check in 7-8 months.

Hillary could have benefited from the movie I just watched. The discussed classified emails and servers.
 
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The George W. Bush White House ‘Lost’ 22 Million Emails

Clinton’s email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Trump hires Don Corleone to defend him. Michael and Fredo buying mattresses. Horse head delivery via FedEx to Mueller en route.

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Also of interest:

"...Trump's legal team wants the second special counsel to investigate whether FBI and Justice Department officials abused the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by using the dossier to justify spying on Page as part of the Russia probe.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions last week revealed he has tapped a former official outside the Beltway to review the need for a second special counsel, suggesting the idea is receiving a serious look."
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I read that Trump is also wanting to add attorney Ted Olson to his defense team, and has also mentioned getting VFL A.B. Culvahouse, Jr. to join the legal team. He was a year ahead of me at U.T. Culvahouse vetted Trump's VP list of choices.
 
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