TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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Vol0725 said:
That’s fair in many cases. They are playing to a certain audience, as all are. You’re not gonna change someone’s partisan beliefs regardless.
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That's the confirmation bias again. We all tend to gravitate toward sources that support our own beliefs. It's only natural. I guess my issue is that there isn't one that fits me, due to our overly polarized climate. That's why I end up reading both sides.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
That's the confirmation bias again. We all tend to gravitate toward sources that support our own beliefs. It's only natural. I guess my issue is that there isn't one that fits me, due to our overly polarized climate. That's why I end up reading both sides.
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that’s always wise.
I agree 100%
 
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luthervol said:
Political scientists rank Trump last, Lincoln first in greatness survey - CNNPolitics

Former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan enjoyed upward bumps in their greatness rankings, while President Donald Trump was ranked historically low, according to a presidential "greatness" survey released Monday.

Overall, Trump came in dead last. The seven greatest presidents, according to respondents, remained unchanged from the same survey's results in 2014, the previous time it was taken. In order, they were Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, Harry S. Truman and Dwight Eisenhower.

Obama came in eighth, up 10 spots from 18th in 2014. George W. Bush moved up five spots, from 35th to 30th. Reagan also moved into the top 10, ranking ninth. In 2014, he was at 11.
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I haven't seen this. Probably because I've all but quit going to cnn.com.

Half of their headlines are dedicated to crying about Trump. It's gotten super pathetic.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I haven't seen this. Probably because I've all but quit going to cnn.com.

Half of their headlines are dedicated to crying about Trump. It's gotten super pathetic.
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No one is crying about Trump. He just likely obstructed justice, among other crimes. People don't like to hear that.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
No one is crying about Trump. He just likely obstructed justice, among other crimes. People don't like to hear that.
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I love to hear truth, not hyperbole accusations.

As president, remind us how he likely obstructed justice?
What are these other alledged crime(s) you’re eluding to?
 
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Vol0725 said:
I love to hear truth, not hyperbole accusations.

As president, remind us how he likely obstructed justice?
What are these other alledged crime(s) you’re eluding to?
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Mueller will find the evidence. The fact that Trump fires anyone that is connected to the Russia probe is just coincidence I suppose.

Right wing dudes are already calling on Trump to pardon everyone in the Russia probe, including himself, before the full facts are even known.

There is no doubt Trump committed numerous high crimes. Hopefully we can survive the coming constitutional crisis.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Mueller will find the evidence. The fact that Trump fires anyone that is connected to the Russia probe is just coincidence I suppose.

Right wing dudes are already calling on Trump to pardon everyone in the Russia probe, including himself, before the full facts are even known.

There is no doubt Trump committed numerous high crimes. Hopefully we can survive the coming constitutional crisis.
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Lol. Another dead end conversation. Peace ✌️
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Mueller will find the evidence. The fact that Trump fires anyone that is connected to the Russia probe is just coincidence I suppose.

Right wing dudes are already calling on Trump to pardon everyone in the Russia probe, including himself, before the full facts are even known.

There is no doubt Trump committed numerous high crimes. Hopefully we can survive the coming constitutional crisis.
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I doubt he will pardon HRC and Obama.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
It isn't a dead end conversation. The question should be how did we allow a traitorous scumbag to collude with Russian oligarchs to sit in the White House?
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Did you read that in the ‘Clinton-DNC’ dossier, which was authored by a paid foreign national who used Russians and Clinton confidants as the purveyors of the dirt?

Ok inspector Gadget, give us just 1 example of the evidence of collusion?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Mueller will find the evidence. The fact that Trump fires anyone that is connected to the Russia probe is just coincidence I suppose.

Right wing dudes are already calling on Trump to pardon everyone in the Russia probe, including himself, before the full facts are even known.

There is no doubt Trump committed numerous high crimes. Hopefully we can survive the coming constitutional crisis.
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He fired Comey. That’s all.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Soon as I noticed you linked Huffpost. I laughed and kept on moving.
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I imagine the word "Huffpost" in the link title gave it away to you that it might be a Huffpost article? Can't sneak anything past you man.

As I said, the article is slanted, but it's not an unrealistic scenario.
 
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Vol0725 said:
No it’s not.

Did you read Rosenstein’s letter of recommendation to fire Comey?

I’ll be polite, please do your homework, then come back with a fact-based conversation.
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On top of that the Democrats were calling for him to be fired when Obama was in office. Then when Trump sacked up and did it, they flipped out.
 
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The Russian meddling started in May 2014, long before Trump announced his bid. Let’s see here... Obama was Prez and decided not to do anything about this Russia meddling and they were targeting Hillary....ya know the most qualified person to ever run for president. Lol
 
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AirVol said:
The Russian meddling started in May 2014, long before Trump announced his bid. Let’s see here... Obama was Prez and decided not to do anything about this Russia meddling and they were targeting Hillary....ya know the most qualified person to ever run for president. Lol
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Would you stop bringing facts into this?!

It's embarrassing.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Which is obstruction alone. Comey wouldn't play ball, so he got axed.
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everyone wanted the dude fired. First Trump was calling for his ouster before the election. Then he chimed in on Hilary, and Comey was then on the dems chopping block. and then he was investigating Trump again and he was on another chopping block. which is it? everyone is pretty selective of their outrage/defense of the man. but clearly he was doing something wrongish (not illegal) that both sides have wanted him fired for a while.
 
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