TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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lawgator1 said:
It was good enough for the GOP when it came to Clinton.

Regardless, I maintain that there is going to be quite a bit of material to show corruption of Trump, either through finance matters, collusion, or the like, and that the purpose of this exercise is to add as much grounds for impeachment as possible so that the 36 % does not lose their collective mind when it comes time to act on it all.
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unless you can tie to some sort of actual quid pro quo, or carrying on to inside his run for office, you have nothing.

the sanctions don't fit the timeline. why would Russia buy someone to go soft on some sanctions that only came about because they bought said person?

If its some under the table deal from 2006 and you are hoping the guilt by association is enough to sink him politically you are again up the creek. if its blackmail from some pissing whores good luck trying to squeeze impeachment out of that.

at this point, with all the time past, all the allegations, and news mongering, you better have some darn good evidence of some actual transgressions that actually deal with the election or you are just pissing in the wind.
 
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Septic said:
Then Trump should have nothing to worry about, unless telling the truth is worse optically.

Lots of politicians roll the dice and lie, it's often better looking than the truth.
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what is today? Tuesday? Does lying under oath matter or not?

If it comes down to impeachment for lying under oath, then indeed this whole investigation has been a witch hunt in order to get Trump to break a law, where there was nothing.
 
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F’em!
Call their bluff to supoena.
If they do, plead 5th, say sue me!
Take it up with the Supreme Court!

Lol ...constitutional crisis! Constitutional crisis!
The libs and demterds along with establishment media would go into all out TDS breakdown hysteria
 
#2,804
#2,804
lawgator1 said:
It was good enough for the GOP when it came to Clinton.

Regardless, I maintain that there is going to be quite a bit of material to show corruption of Trump, either through finance matters, collusion, or the like, and that the purpose of this exercise is to add as much grounds for impeachment as possible so that the 36 % does not lose their collective mind when it comes time to act on it all.
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So get him on anything is the mission?
 
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LouderVol said:
make him break the law so we can get him on what we have ignored in others. because he says mean things.
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I've pointed this out before, the FBI considers an omission a lie. If they ask what you had for breakfast and you answer toast and bacon but you had eggs also, you just committed a felony in the eyes of the FBI.
 
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hog88 said:
I've pointed this out before, the FBI considers an omission a lie. If they ask what you had for breakfast and you answer toast and bacon but you had eggs also, you just committed a felony in the eyes of the FBI.
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That's exactly what they did to General Flynn
 
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hog88 said:
I've pointed this out before, the FBI considers an omission a lie. If they ask what you had for breakfast and you answer toast and bacon but you had eggs also, you just committed a felony in the eyes of the FBI.
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But it's perfectly fine to wipe a subpoena'd server with bleach bit. :crazy:
 
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LouderVol said:
what is today? Tuesday? Does lying under oath matter or not?

If it comes down to impeachment for lying under oath, then indeed this whole investigation has been a witch hunt in order to get Trump to break a law, where there was nothing.
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Certainly Mr. Trump has nothing to worry about if he just tells the truth.

It all goes away and the trumpers get to bask in glorious and unimaginable "**** you, I told you so(s)."
 
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LouderVol said:
what is today? Tuesday? Does lying under oath matter or not?

If it comes down to impeachment for lying under oath, then indeed this whole investigation has been a witch hunt in order to get Trump to break a law, where there was nothing.
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That all sounds vaguely familiar, but luckily that is not what is happening this time around.
 
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Septic said:
Certainly Mr. Trump has nothing to worry about if he just tells the truth.

It all goes away and the trumpers get to bask in glorious and unimaginable "**** you, I told you so(s)."
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do you honestly believe that if Trump testifies under oath, doesn't incriminate himself, and doesn't cough up anything on the Russian story (while telling the truth), that this goes away?

On the long shot that the above happens, I am willing to lay down real money or whatever avi bet you want, that this investigation doesn't end shortly (within a month) afterwards.
 
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hog88 said:
I've pointed this out before, the FBI considers an omission a lie. If they ask what you had for breakfast and you answer toast and bacon but you had eggs also, you just committed a felony in the eyes of the FBI.
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Lol wut?

A lie of omission is an intentional failure to tell the truth in a situation requiring disclosure.
 
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LouderVol said:
do you honestly believe that if Trump testifies under oath, doesn't incriminate himself, and doesn't cough up anything on the Russian story (while telling the truth), that this goes away?

On the long shot that the above happens, I am willing to lay down real money or whatever avi bet you want, that this investigation doesn't end shortly (within a month) afterwards.
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Yep, I believe that and no I don't care enough about it to wager. I don't think Mueller has anything and I think that the dems went all in, if this fails they'll move on.

TBH, I almost hope I'm wrong so I can continue to watch the fireworks.
 
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Septic said:
Either Mueller is laying a trap or he's not.

Trump should approach any interview with the understanding that Mueller knows everything and is daring him to lie.
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He would absolutely be laying a trap and Trump should refuse to do any interview with Muller's team. Make Muller go to SCOTUS.
 
#2,822
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hog88 said:
He would absolutely be laying a trap and Trump should refuse to do any interview with Muller's team. Make Muller go to SCOTUS.
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If he tells the truth and the truth doesn't sink him, where's the trap? Dodging Mueller will look just as shady.

The truth will set him free, unless of course it incriminates him.
 
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Septic said:
If he tells the truth and the truth doesn't sink him, where's the trap? Dodging Mueller will look just as shady.

The truth will set him free, unless of course it incriminates him.
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Listening to sound legal advice isn't dodging.
 
#2,825
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hog88 said:
Not even close to being applicable. Trump isn't selling you a car.
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Cool, like I said - be sure to tell everyone you know how you have redefined a legal definition here on VN.

It will surely make you look smarter.

:thumbsup:
 
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