TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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luthervol said:
And what do you think would cause all of those corporations to have left leading agendas?
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Because they're in bed with most politicians, but mostly lefties, to buy legislation that benefits them and makes them richer. Liberals are for big government, which the big corporations use for their own benefit.

The right is generally for free market capitalism, which shifts power to the customer. Corporations don't want that. They want legislation, which they write, that frustrates free markets and shifts power to themselves.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Because they're in bed with most politicians, but mostly lefties, to buy legislation that benefits them and makes them richer. Liberals are for big government, which the big corporations use for their own benefit.

The right is generally for free market capitalism, which shifts power to the customer. Corporations don't want that. They want legislation, which they write, that frustrates free markets and shifts power to themselves.
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Ahem, monopolizing, thus mitigating competition.

Obamacare, anyone?
 
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luthervol said:
Hilarious. Don't get angry with me because you can't support your own biases.

I don't think they do have a left leaning bias. You said they do but can't answer why that would be. That should give you pause.
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The next few months/years may be very painful for you to deal with.

Good luck
 
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Vol0725 said:
We can backtest what-if scenarios and analyze certain datapoints in history until we are blue in the face, to tell us different picture we want to see, don't want to see or are surprised to see.

From an former constituent of mine on Wall Street (I was actually on Park Ave in Midtown, not a 'Wall Street' guy...lol), who loathe's Trump politically, however he doesn't allow it to cloud his judgement with the market(s) and economy:

"Obama in a million years could never have accomplished this. He was a re-regulator, not a de-regulator, which matched up precisely with what the country’s mood demanded at the time of his inauguration in 2008. Hillary’s tax cut, if ever such a thing had been proposed, would never have approached the brazen nature of this one, despite how Corporatist she was always accused of having been.

No, what’s happening now and what is to come is genuine Trump. For better (today), and then eventually for worse (who knows when, but there’s always a when).

You gotta hand it to him, he’s remade the world in which we live in under 12 months’ time. It’s undeniable."---

Josh Brown, https://www.cnbc.com/joshua-brown/
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I would agree with all of this... and in fact my biggest problems with Trump are with his absence of decorum; professional etiquette. I also find him to be a very dishonest and disingenuous person.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Because they're in bed with most politicians, but mostly lefties, to buy legislation that benefits them and makes them richer. Liberals are for big government, which the big corporations use for their own benefit.

The right is generally for free market capitalism, which shifts power to the customer. Corporations don't want that. They want legislation, which they write, that frustrates free markets and shifts power to themselves.
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Just go with that.
 
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Squints said:
Ahem, monopolizing, thus mitigating competition.

Obamacare, anyone?
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The Net Neutrality debate...

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Why does corporate lobby money exceed 2.x BILLION dollars? It's because the lobbyists write MANY of the laws that are passed.

Corporations DO NOT want small government. They want incredibly LARGE government that legislate to their benefit. It makes complete sense that the massive mega-corps lean left. They want large government that cater to their needs and legislate the consumer to their teeth.

Ayn Rand was dead on and wrote extensively on the subject.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The Net Neutrality debate...

etc...

Why does corporate lobby money exceed 2.x BILLION dollars? It's because the lobbyists write MANY of the laws that are passed.

Corporations DO NOT want small government. They want incredibly LARGE government that legislate to their benefit. It makes complete sense that the massive mega-corps lean left. They want large government that cater to their needs and legislate the consumer to their teeth.

Ayn Rand was dead on and wrote extensively on the subject.
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Isn't that where a lot of the stock market gains are coming from? Large corporations are hating the current economy?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would agree with all of this... and in fact my biggest problems with Trump are with his absence of decorum; professional etiquette. I also find him to be a very dishonest and disingenuous person.
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I agree with you but those traits only affect you if you live in the same house with him. None of those affect your daily life in any way so why is that your top complaint? Thats like getting approved for a home loan and rejecting it because you heard the loan officers sister was a narcissistic!
 
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luthervol said:
Stocks are at an all time high. Is that good (in general) for large corporations? Is the economic climate under Trump good for large corporations?
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This isn't Trump's market. This is a bubble created by the Fed's economic policy of unnaturally low interest rates.

Corporations are gobbling up cheap debt right now to buy their own stock back.

The bailouts back in '08. Neocons and liberals. Big government covering corporate mistakes. Small government would have let the economy correct, taken the hit, and made corporations pay for their mistakes.

Corporations want big gov't in their pocket. They LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the left.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
This isn't Trump's market. This is a bubble created by the Fed's economic policy of unnaturally low interest rates.

Corporations are gobbling up cheap debt right now to buy their own stock back.

The bailouts back in '08. Neocons and liberals. Big government covering corporate mistakes. Small government would have let the economy correct, taken the hit, and made corporations pay for their mistakes.

Corporations want big gov't in their pocket. They LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the left.
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So you are saying Trump's economy is not good for big corporations?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
This isn't Trump's market. This is a bubble created by the Fed's economic policy of unnaturally low interest rates.

Corporations are gobbling up cheap debt right now to buy their own stock back.

The bailouts back in '08. Neocons and liberals. Big government covering corporate mistakes. Small government would have let the economy correct, taken the hit, and made corporations pay for their mistakes.

Corporations want big gov't in their pocket. They LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the left.
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:good!:

When or if I guess is the biggest question, the Fed raises interest rates back to normal the good times will come to a screeching halt for awhile.
 
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