TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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BowlBrother85 said:
Not all human beings lie... not all wealthy human beings lie. I doubt you have ever been quite so forgiving of the lies of Bill Clinton. The meeting itself is evidence that collusion may have occurred and the e-mails between Trump Jr. and Rob Goldstone confirm that aiding the Trump campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton was it's mission. The lies of both Trump and Trump Jr. further add to the suspicion that what happened in that meeting was something illicit and they didn't want it uncovered. It shows a consciousness of guilt on their part.

And my post you quoted had nothing to do with "what-about'ism"... I explained why Trump is more important as a focus. I don't care if the Clintons are prosecuted. They mean nothing to the Democratic Party anymore. Go for it. That just isn't as important as the actions of a sitting President.
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Man younreally need to have a proof reader for your post. In another post you said that the meeting WAS evidence of collusion. Yet here you say the meeting MAY be evidence. Just stop. You are just playing mental gymnastics with yourself. Humans dont lie? Are you aerious? I genuinely curious as to why you dont think they do. The ultra wealthy dont lie? Lol. How do you think they stay in power and keep all their wealth? Its like how some libs stammer on and on about Trumps tax returns. I have asked time and time again yet received no answer. Do you honestly think Trumps tax returns are legit? Hell no they arent. Just like every other ultra wealthy person, Trump's tax returns would show what he wants it to. Lying is a part of human psyche. We all do it every day.

Like I said, you dont care about anyone who breaks the law unless its Trump. You along with those who believe like you do not believe in equal justive for all. Which is a HUGE problem that strikes at the heart of our republic. Thanks for being a huge part of the problem. Of coirse the Clintons arent important to the Dems now. They have done whatever they can to shift attention away from their corruption. Everything from a fake, unverified dossie to constant anti Trump biasness. Hillary Clinton committed perjury and other crimes. Yet you and the other Dems just want to sweep it under the rug. Yet you want Trump imprisioned before any evidence has shown guilt of anything.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I’m curious now , would you name one president that you trusted not to lie to you ?
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Drawing from history, I would trust some more than others. Mostly I would trust the dead ones not to lie, but from those I have some memory of, Reagan, Carter, H W Bush, Obama I would trust more than Nixon, Clinton, or W Bush.. Trump I wouldn't trust to tell me how much a stamp costs, much less something of dyer consequence.

Your question begs for some false equivalent, which hasn't existed in my lifetime.

Gerald Ford.. I dunno, honestly
 
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Stew Cook said:
Drawing from history, I would trust some more than others. Mostly I would trust the dead ones not to lie, but from those I have some memory of, Reagan, Carter, H W Bush, Obama I would trust more than Nixon, Clinton, or W Bush.. Trump I wouldn't trust to tell me how much a stamp costs, much less something of dyer consequence.

Your question begs for some false equivalent, which hasn't existed in my lifetime.
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I was just curious how you saw former presidents and your take on their Truth telling vs lies they’ve told to the public and to see if there was a connection on how honest they are perceived to be based on their actions or lack of .
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Man younreally need to have a proof reader for your post. In another post you said that the meeting WAS evidence of collusion. Yet here you say the meeting MAY be evidence. Just stop. You are just playing mental gymnastics with yourself. Humans dont lie? Are you aerious? I genuinely curious as to why you dont think they do. The ultra wealthy dont lie? Lol. How do you think they stay in power and keep all their wealth? Its like how some libs stammer on and on about Trumps tax returns. I have asked time and time again yet received no answer. Do you honestly think Trumps tax returns are legit? Hell no they arent. Just like every other ultra wealthy person, Trump's tax returns would show what he wants it to. Lying is a part of human psyche. We all do it every day.

Like I said, you dont care about anyone who breaks the law unless its Trump. You along with those who believe like you do not believe in equal justive for all. Which is a HUGE problem that strikes at the heart of our republic. Thanks for being a huge part of the problem. Of coirse the Clintons arent important to the Dems now. They have done whatever they can to shift attention away from their corruption. Everything from a fake, unverified dossie to constant anti Trump biasness. Hillary Clinton committed perjury and other crimes. Yet you and the other Dems just want to sweep it under the rug. Yet you want Trump imprisioned before any evidence has shown guilt of anything.
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Who needs to have a proofreader for their posts? "younreally"? "aerious"? LOL!

The fact that the June 9, 2016 meeting took place could be evidence of collusion between Russian operatives and the Trump campaign. The fact that both Donald Trump and Trump Jr. lied about that meeting represents a consciousness of guilt on their part. Why lie if nothing illicit took place?
 
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All politicians and college coaches will work outside given boundaries IF it gives them an advantage and they believe they will never get caught! The ones we hear about are the ones who were caught. I can promise you that if Hillary’s campaign workers were scrutinized at the same level of Trump’s, there would be an equal amounts of indictments at the minimum.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Not all human beings lie... not all wealthy human beings lie. I doubt you have ever been quite so forgiving of the lies of Bill Clinton. The meeting itself is evidence that collusion may have occurred and the e-mails between Trump Jr. and Rob Goldstone confirm that aiding the Trump campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton was it's mission. The lies of both Trump and Trump Jr. further add to the suspicion that what happened in that meeting was something illicit and they didn't want it uncovered. It shows a consciousness of guilt on their part.

And my post you quoted had nothing to do with "what-about'ism"... I explained why Trump is more important as a focus. I don't care if the Clintons are prosecuted. They mean nothing to the Democratic Party anymore. Go for it. That just isn't as important as the actions of a sitting President.
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This is the biggest lie I've seen/heard in a long while.
 
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ajvol01 said:
This is the biggest lie I've seen/heard in a long while.
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So much of the justification for Trump's lack of integrity and decorum by the right, revolves around the axiom that either "everybody does it" or "every politician does it". It just isn't so, regardless of how cynical you may be. Trump is a prolific liar and he is the embodiment of an egotist.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
So much of the justification for Trump's lack of integrity and decorum by the right, revolves around the axiom that either "everybody does it" or "every politician does it". It just isn't so, regardless of how cynical you may be. Trump is a prolifically dishonest person and he is the embodiment of an egotist.
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You stated that not all humans lie.

I am saying that statement is a blatant LIE.

I didn't mention Trump.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Drawing from history, I would trust some more than others. Mostly I would trust the dead ones not to lie, but from those I have some memory of, Reagan, Carter, H W Bush, Obama I would trust more than Nixon, Clinton, or W Bush.. Trump I wouldn't trust to tell me how much a stamp costs, much less something of dyer consequence.

Your question begs for some false equivalent, which hasn't existed in my lifetime.

Gerald Ford.. I dunno, honestly
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At this point in time, I don't believe anything I hear from anyone.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
So much of the justification for Trump's lack of integrity and decorum by the right, revolves around the axiom that either "everybody does it" or "every politician does it". It just isn't so, regardless of how cynical you may be. Trump is a prolific liar and he is the embodiment of an egotist.
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The left and the right have set new standards for what will be exceptable in coming years . Both kept lowering the bar . What use to be done behind backs and closed doors are now in full view . There use to be unwritten rules of decourum not any more and to blame one side and not the other is not being honest . Could Trump bring it down some ? Sure he could . Would that lower the lefts attacks on him or the right ? No of course it wouldn’t , most think the ends justifies the means now . So ... here we are .
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It is not a lie but rather a perception from my life's experience. I have known people who didn't lie. I'm sorry you have not.
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Semantics. You want to be right, but you're wrong.

All humans are imperfect. All humans sin.
Honest people lie / bend the truth. It happens. You can admit it.

You can't even be honest with yourself.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Semantics. You want to be right, but you're wrong.

All humans are imperfect. All humans sin.
Honest people lie / bend the truth. It happens. You can admit it.

You can't even be honest with yourself.
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I can admit that I lie... I can admit that all humans are imperfect... I will not admit that all humans lie because I have known a few that didn't. That's all I can tell you.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What is true for you and the people you know, is not necessarily true for others. Not everyone is like you. There is such an inward-looking perception of the world on this forum. It's projection.
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The fact you are arguing that you know people that have never lied is all I need to know.

Carry on.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who needs to have a proofreader for their posts? "younreally"? "aerious"? LOL!

The fact that the June 9, 2016 meeting took place could be evidence of collusion between Russian operatives and the Trump campaign. The fact that both Donald Trump and Trump Jr. lied about that meeting represents a consciousness of guilt on their part. Why lie if nothing illicit took place?
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They all should’ve met on a tarmac, worked well the last time.
 
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