TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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Daloth said:
And responses like that show you are part of the cult yourself. Fail to acknowledge the basic facts of the matter and the help presented to you to clarify your issue and respond with stupidity.
Please, don't be one of the many who rise up only to get put down again when your dear leader gets convicted of dozens of crimes when its all over with.
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I'm not sure if 'facts' means what you think it does
 
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Daloth said:
And responses like that show you are part of the cult yourself. Fail to acknowledge the basic facts of the matter and the help presented to you to clarify your issue and respond with stupidity.
Please, don't be one of the many who rise up only to get put down again when your dear leader gets convicted of dozens of crimes when its all over with.
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Fact is Trump won the presidential election.... fact is he is YOUR president beeotch!
 
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Liberals are willing to destroy the country and opposition because their chosen one didn't win.

Here's what I think they're game plan is.

1. Win the House and possibly Senate in November.

2. Impeach Trump at all costs, which will result in mass civil unrest.

3. Figure out a way to frame Mike Pence as a Trump "enabler" and either get Mueller or a second special counsel to investigate him.

4. Get Mike Pence impeached and have a Democrat Speaker of the House take his place.

The upcoming 2018 midterms are the most important midterms of our lifetime. If the Democrats take control, our country may never recover.
 
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0nelilreb said:
First ... yes our ” Duly elected president “. If you think the election was fixed or rigged then you are still waiting on the FBI, DOJ, CIA, Hillary and Barry to scream bloody murder and prove you right with facts not abstract ideas . When they do then I’m sure they can declare the election void and install Hillary as president .

Secondly... I have yet to see proof that Trump is a racist , I see lots of people screaming it just like before he was president everybody was a racist or an ism of some kind and people got tired of hearing it ( one reason we have Trump as president )

Third...The mainstream media does lie , if you don’t think they do then you are only listening to what you want to hear and this is proven out every time their rating come out . I don’t care if they are left leaning hacks just don’t lie and say you aren’t . Example .. CNN use to be watched by everyone everywhere now the food channel has better ratings . It’s because they lie .

Fourth .. I’m one of those people that want to know why those emails are missing , why the DNC wouldn’t allow the FBI to have the server and why a Secretary of State is allow to bleach but her server and take a hammer to devices that wasn’t hers . The are questions millions of people have and that doesn’t make us part of a cult .

I hope that explains and helps you understand how the other side thinks and feels .
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Let's just use facts and logic on you to see if it helps, because many of your ideas are entirely cult based honestly:

First, the only people still denying the election was changed as a result of a foreign power are, trump cultists. Even GoP senate and congress agree as much, to discuss that further is to teach a baby calculus. If you can't comprehend that you need to just stop reading because we are not going to do well. The main reason nothing has happened as a result is the GoP led Congress and Senate and the fact that that investigation (the one Mueller is doing) is going to result consequences we can't even fathom yet. Why? Because the Constitution has no information on what to do if a president uses a foreign power to aid his rise to power. The founding fathers never imagined ak 47's and spaceships, let alone cell phones and the internet.

Secondly, Trump has literally lost lawsuits on being racist. He has openly called minorities rapists, claim they have AIDS, HIV, come from **** holes, etc. He has tried to pass bills to deny muslims entry to the country. If you do not think he is racist you are part of his cult, and most likely racist yourself. And yes, a whole lot of people in the south and middle/low class America ARE racist and homophobic. Because they were raised that way, its literally an entire generation mostly based on education and economics, luckily one who is slowly dying out. To deny that exists is to deny an entire culture effectively.

Third. Yes, the media does lie. The channel that lies the most is Fox News, by far, and its not even close and has been proven so multiple times. It is such terrible "news" that most of western society bans it as state propaganda similar to North Korean channels. If you don't get your news from MULTIPLE different sources, you are already far behind. But to also think that "ratings" determines something's credibility or validity is ignorant. One Direction sells millions of albums, does that make them better musicians than anyone else they've outsold? No.

Lastly, and maybe most importantly.

Please, Dear god. Get over her damn e-mails. She is not the president. She is not even in the public eye. The investigation, which was literally helmed as it was because of Pro Trump FBI agents in NY, was found to have nothing in it whatsoever of note, otherwise there would be indictments, guilty pleas, and the investigation would STILL be ongoing. You know, like the current investigation of trump. If the GoP was half as concerned with any of Trumps sexual assault claims, his tax returns, his cabinet's illegal activities, his refusal to apply sanctions or other laws passed, his unmonitered private phone calls, the tax dollars he wastes at his golf courses, or any of his other current crimes, as they are with imaginary emails we would have had a new President about three months in.

Let me say this last one again, because it is the oldest and dumbest argument cultists still try. The investigation FINISHED and found NO REASON TO CONTINUE. If you truly believe, the FBI and CIA, top to bottom, as well as the justice department and most of the people in charge before, are part of a deep state conspiracy to protect Hillary you are unreachable and impossible to help. The closest "deep state" and high end government theories that are plausible are Jeb Bush helped his brother win against Al Gore and.... The GoP is protecting Trump because Russia pays them as well. (and with recent NRA funding being found, that one is looking pretty real)

Hopefully, these facts help answer your issues and see why people see so many as cultists and crazy, because most of them are as verified as global warming and evolution:
1. Russia helped cheat in the election, it is confirmed by multiple sources, countries, and the entirety of Congress and Senate, and the investigation as to how much Trump was involved is still ongoing.
2. Trump is racist (and sexist), both by the definition. He has lost lawsuits proving it and his constant claims degrading minorities and women (and his literal recorded comments on both) prove this over and over. He is the source of the Birther movement for god's sake.
3. News medias are not entirely truthful. The worst is Fox news, to the point they are banned in many far more educated countries than ours. Popularity does not equal validity or ability.
4. Hillary Clinton's E-mails have absolutely nothing to do with anything in America in the year 2018. They were investigated, longer than the current Trump investigation, and found to be not only baseless, but the man who conducted them claimed he wished he never did because he was duped by pro trump agents who sat on the information and he beleives he swung an election on the basis alone.
5. Trump is a criminal, his twitter account alone proves it. His legal history proves it. Trump takes advantage of the uninformed masses and uses race and religion to rile them up by making it a "us vs them" argument. Its Fascism 101, and he doesn't even do it that well compared to history. He doesn't even do it as well as former Americans in history.

It is anyone's personal right to deny facts presented to them. But it does not change them from being facts, and it will absolutely result in people being called crazy, cultists, stupid, etc.

Not because you don't know them, but because even when presented to you you deny or refute them with no actual evidence or proof.

THAT is why we call trump supporters who deny cleanly obvious things cultists. Because only a cult believes implicitly regardless of the facts placed in front of them.
 
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Matt2496 said:
Liberals are willing to destroy the country and opposition because their chosen one didn't win.

Here's what I think they're game plan is.

1. Win the House and possibly Senate in November.

2. Impeach Trump at all costs, which will result in mass civil unrest.

3. Figure out a way to frame Mike Pence as a Trump "enabler" and either get Mueller or a second special counsel to investigate him.

4. Get Mike Pence impeached and have a Democrat Speaker of the House take his place.

The upcoming 2018 midterms are the most important midterms of our lifetime. If the Democrats take control, our country may never recover.
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It's not just the Dems. It's all the snakes in the swamp that need to save their necks.
 
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Daloth said:
Let's just use facts and logic on you to see if it helps, because many of your ideas are entirely cult based honestly:

First, the only people still denying the election was changed as a result of a foreign power are, trump cultists. Even GoP senate and congress agree as much, to discuss that further is to teach a baby calculus. If you can't comprehend that you need to just stop reading because we are not going to do well. The main reason nothing has happened as a result is the GoP led Congress and Senate and the fact that that investigation (the one Mueller is doing) is going to result consequences we can't even fathom yet. Why? Because the Constitution has no information on what to do if a president uses a foreign power to aid his rise to power. The founding fathers never imagined ak 47's and spaceships, let alone cell phones and the internet.

Secondly, Trump has literally lost lawsuits on being racist. He has openly called minorities rapists, claim they have AIDS, HIV, come from **** holes, etc. He has tried to pass bills to deny muslims entry to the country. If you do not think he is racist you are part of his cult, and most likely racist yourself. And yes, a whole lot of people in the south and middle/low class America ARE racist and homophobic. Because they were raised that way, its literally an entire generation mostly based on education and economics, luckily one who is slowly dying out. To deny that exists is to deny an entire culture effectively.

Third. Yes, the media does lie. The channel that lies the most is Fox News, by far, and its not even close and has been proven so multiple times. It is such terrible "news" that most of western society bans it as state propaganda similar to North Korean channels. If you don't get your news from MULTIPLE different sources, you are already far behind. But to also think that "ratings" determines something's credibility or validity is ignorant. One Direction sells millions of albums, does that make them better musicians than anyone else they've outsold? No.

Lastly, and maybe most importantly.

Please, Dear god. Get over her damn e-mails. She is not the president. She is not even in the public eye. The investigation, which was literally helmed as it was because of Pro Trump FBI agents in NY, was found to have nothing in it whatsoever of note, otherwise there would be indictments, guilty pleas, and the investigation would STILL be ongoing. You know, like the current investigation of trump. If the GoP was half as concerned with any of Trumps sexual assault claims, his tax returns, his cabinet's illegal activities, his refusal to apply sanctions or other laws passed, his unmonitered private phone calls, the tax dollars he wastes at his golf courses, or any of his other current crimes, as they are with imaginary emails we would have had a new President about three months in.

Let me say this last one again, because it is the oldest and dumbest argument cultists still try. The investigation FINISHED and found NO REASON TO CONTINUE. If you truly believe, the FBI and CIA, top to bottom, as well as the justice department and most of the people in charge before, are part of a deep state conspiracy to protect Hillary you are unreachable and impossible to help. The closest "deep state" and high end government theories that are plausible are Jeb Bush helped his brother win against Al Gore and.... The GoP is protecting Trump because Russia pays them as well. (and with recent NRA funding being found, that one is looking pretty real)

Hopefully, these facts help answer your issues and see why people see so many as cultists and crazy, because most of them are as verified as global warming and evolution:
1. Russia helped cheat in the election, it is confirmed by multiple sources, countries, and the entirety of Congress and Senate, and the investigation as to how much Trump was involved is still ongoing.
2. Trump is racist (and sexist), both by the definition. He has lost lawsuits proving it and his constant claims degrading minorities and women (and his literal recorded comments on both) prove this over and over. He is the source of the Birther movement for god's sake.
3. News medias are not entirely truthful. The worst is Fox news, to the point they are banned in many far more educated countries than ours. Popularity does not equal validity or ability.
4. Hillary Clinton's E-mails have absolutely nothing to do with anything in America in the year 2018. They were investigated, longer than the current Trump investigation, and found to be not only baseless, but the man who conducted them claimed he wished he never did because he was duped by pro trump agents who sat on the information and he beleives he swung an election on the basis alone.
5. Trump is a criminal, his twitter account alone proves it. His legal history proves it. Trump takes advantage of the uninformed masses and uses race and religion to rile them up by making it a "us vs them" argument. Its Fascism 101, and he doesn't even do it that well compared to history. He doesn't even do it as well as former Americans in history.

It is anyone's personal right to deny facts presented to them. But it does not change them from being facts, and it will absolutely result in people being called crazy, cultists, stupid, etc.

Not because you don't know them, but because even when presented to you you deny or refute them with no actual evidence or proof.

THAT is why we call trump supporters who deny cleanly obvious things cultists. Because only a cult believes implicitly regardless of the facts placed in front of them.
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Lol 👆🏼
 
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lawgator1 said:
Developments today warrant a clean break and the third installment. I've labeled it the beginning of the end because I believe that we are seeing now the collision of the facts and the personalities which will culminate in charges against Donald Trump and others. Money laundering, bribery, obstruction, conspiracy. Or some combination thereof.

So, today ...

It has emerged that as Bannon testified to the House committee, his lawyer would go outside and call the WH and tell them what was asked. He then went back in to tell Bannon not to answer.

A couple of days ago, Lewandowski said that he would answer all questions. When he got there, however, he would not answer anything post-campaign.

When asked if he had spoken to Trump in the prior 24 hours? He refused to answer.

As I say, this is the beginning of the end of this saga. its almost over.
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LOL
 
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golfballs said:
made up crap = FAKE NEWS
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Largest inaugural in history! Period ! LIE

I don't know any Russians, no one from my campaign was involved with
Russians. LIE

Drafted press release claiming meeting was about adoption. LIE

I want to release my tax returns but they are under audit. I will release them when they're done. LIE

Denies affair with Daniels. LIE

Denies knowing of payment to her. LIE

Denies affair with Playboy model. LIE

Denies knowing how she was paid off. LIE

That's just for starters.
 
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Daloth said:
Let's just use facts and logic on you to see if it helps, because many of your ideas are entirely cult based honestly:

First, the only people still denying the election was changed as a result of a foreign power are, trump cultists. Even GoP senate and congress agree as much, to discuss that further is to teach a baby calculus. If you can't comprehend that you need to just stop reading because we are not going to do well. The main reason nothing has happened as a result is the GoP led Congress and Senate and the fact that that investigation (the one Mueller is doing) is going to result consequences we can't even fathom yet. Why? Because the Constitution has no information on what to do if a president uses a foreign power to aid his rise to power. The founding fathers never imagined ak 47's and spaceships, let alone cell phones and the internet.

Secondly, Trump has literally lost lawsuits on being racist. He has openly called minorities rapists, claim they have AIDS, HIV, come from **** holes, etc. He has tried to pass bills to deny muslims entry to the country. If you do not think he is racist you are part of his cult, and most likely racist yourself. And yes, a whole lot of people in the south and middle/low class America ARE racist and homophobic. Because they were raised that way, its literally an entire generation mostly based on education and economics, luckily one who is slowly dying out. To deny that exists is to deny an entire culture effectively.

Third. Yes, the media does lie. The channel that lies the most is Fox News, by far, and its not even close and has been proven so multiple times. It is such terrible "news" that most of western society bans it as state propaganda similar to North Korean channels. If you don't get your news from MULTIPLE different sources, you are already far behind. But to also think that "ratings" determines something's credibility or validity is ignorant. One Direction sells millions of albums, does that make them better musicians than anyone else they've outsold? No.

Lastly, and maybe most importantly.

Please, Dear god. Get over her damn e-mails. She is not the president. She is not even in the public eye. The investigation, which was literally helmed as it was because of Pro Trump FBI agents in NY, was found to have nothing in it whatsoever of note, otherwise there would be indictments, guilty pleas, and the investigation would STILL be ongoing. You know, like the current investigation of trump. If the GoP was half as concerned with any of Trumps sexual assault claims, his tax returns, his cabinet's illegal activities, his refusal to apply sanctions or other laws passed, his unmonitered private phone calls, the tax dollars he wastes at his golf courses, or any of his other current crimes, as they are with imaginary emails we would have had a new President about three months in.

Let me say this last one again, because it is the oldest and dumbest argument cultists still try. The investigation FINISHED and found NO REASON TO CONTINUE. If you truly believe, the FBI and CIA, top to bottom, as well as the justice department and most of the people in charge before, are part of a deep state conspiracy to protect Hillary you are unreachable and impossible to help. The closest "deep state" and high end government theories that are plausible are Jeb Bush helped his brother win against Al Gore and.... The GoP is protecting Trump because Russia pays them as well. (and with recent NRA funding being found, that one is looking pretty real)

Hopefully, these facts help answer your issues and see why people see so many as cultists and crazy, because most of them are as verified as global warming and evolution:
1. Russia helped cheat in the election, it is confirmed by multiple sources, countries, and the entirety of Congress and Senate, and the investigation as to how much Trump was involved is still ongoing.
2. Trump is racist (and sexist), both by the definition. He has lost lawsuits proving it and his constant claims degrading minorities and women (and his literal recorded comments on both) prove this over and over. He is the source of the Birther movement for god's sake.
3. News medias are not entirely truthful. The worst is Fox news, to the point they are banned in many far more educated countries than ours. Popularity does not equal validity or ability.
4. Hillary Clinton's E-mails have absolutely nothing to do with anything in America in the year 2018. They were investigated, longer than the current Trump investigation, and found to be not only baseless, but the man who conducted them claimed he wished he never did because he was duped by pro trump agents who sat on the information and he beleives he swung an election on the basis alone.
5. Trump is a criminal, his twitter account alone proves it. His legal history proves it. Trump takes advantage of the uninformed masses and uses race and religion to rile them up by making it a "us vs them" argument. Its Fascism 101, and he doesn't even do it that well compared to history. He doesn't even do it as well as former Americans in history.

It is anyone's personal right to deny facts presented to them. But it does not change them from being facts, and it will absolutely result in people being called crazy, cultists, stupid, etc.

Not because you don't know them, but because even when presented to you you deny or refute them with no actual evidence or proof.

THAT is why we call trump supporters who deny cleanly obvious things cultists. Because only a cult believes implicitly regardless of the facts placed in front of them.
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The first thing I see as an indicator that we “ won’t get along “ is you say we are going to use facts then start off by saying the election was “changed “ by an outside influence . What actually happened , factually is that a foreign gov tried to interfere with our election . Did they rig the election ? No they can’t because per Obama himself “ that’s impossibke to do “ now did they use bots on social media to run fake sites ? Yes we know this . Did those sway anybody’s mind and make them vote for trump ? There’s not one shred of evidence anywhere by anybody that it did . If you think there’s proof of this , post it and let’s all look at it . The thing I think that hurts the most is not being able to face the fact that millions and millions of Americans made a simple choice that said Hillary was worse than trump and they were all tired of the same old song and dance from the same old politicians and until those voters say otherwise , The man that won the presidential election will stay the president . Now I didn’t bother with addressing the rest of your post because according to you we are only dealing with facts so I can’t make it past your first statement unless you start dealing in facts not suspicions .
 
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lawgator1 said:
Largest inaugural in history! Period ! LIE

I don't know any Russians, no one from my campaign was involved with
Russians. LIE

Drafted press release claiming meeting was about adoption. LIE

I want to release my tax returns but they are under audit. I will release them when they're done. LIE

Denies affair with Daniels. LIE

Denies knowing of payment to her. LIE

Denies affair with Playboy model. LIE

Denies knowing how she was paid off. LIE

That's just for starters.
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How late are you staying up because if I start giving you all the obama and Hillary lies we are going to be here a while . Wouldn’t it be easier for us to go ahead and admit politicians lie? Lol
 
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0nelilreb said:
How late are you staying up because if I start giving you all the obama and Hillary lies we are going to be here a while . Wouldn’t it be easier for us to go ahead and admit politicians lie? Lol
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You could take Obama, Hillary and every President and Vice President we've had since 1776 and their collective lies would still not exceed Trump's.
 
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TennTom said:
You could take Obama, Hillary and every President and Vice President we've had since 1776 and their collective lies would still not exceed Trump's.
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Did you just prove my point that all politicians lie ? Now if you want to talk severity of lies we can discuss whos lies have hurt , killed , damaged or harmed people and let’s see how they stack up and I’ll only use Hillary and Barry’s lies I won’t need the rest going back to 1776 ..deal?
 
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0nelilreb said:
The first thing I see as an indicator that we “ won’t get along “ is you say we are going to use facts then start off by saying the election was “changed “ by an outside influence . What actually happened , factually is that a foreign gov tried to interfere with our election . Did they rig the election ? No they can’t because per Obama himself “ that’s impossibke to do “ now did they use bots on social media to run fake sites ? Yes we know this . Did those sway anybody’s mind and make them vote for trump ? There’s not one shred of evidence anywhere by anybody that it did . If you think there’s proof of this , post it and let’s all look at it . The thing I think that hurts the most is not being able to face the fact that millions and millions of Americans made a simple choice that said Hillary was worse than trump and they were all tired of the same old song and dance from the same old politicians and until those voters say otherwise , The man that won the presidential election will stay the president . Now I didn’t bother with addressing the rest of your post because according to you we are only dealing with facts so I can’t make it past your first statement unless you start dealing in facts not suspicions .
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the libtard snowflakes thought they had it all covered with their cheating and corruption, (reference the dummy bernie sanders) that there was no NO WAY they could lose the election.....but KING TRUMP outsmarted them.......so, now they think that the only way that could have happened was for KING TRUMP to out cheated them....but they felled to acknowledge that the american ppl were finally catching on to the media fed lies and voted for the right man......KING TRUMP
 
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Matt2496 said:
Liberals are willing to destroy the country and opposition because their chosen one didn't win.

Here's what I think they're game plan is.

1. Win the House and possibly Senate in November.

2. Impeach Trump at all costs, which will result in mass civil unrest.

3. Figure out a way to frame Mike Pence as a Trump "enabler" and either get Mueller or a second special counsel to investigate him.

4. Get Mike Pence impeached and have a Democrat Speaker of the House take his place.

The upcoming 2018 midterms are the most important midterms of our lifetime. If the Democrats take control, our country may never recover.
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Hopefully I can help you sleep more easily, that's not the game plan....other than # 1, and #2 only if the findings of the investigation warrant.

Numbers 3 and 4 are nothing more than delusional red hat conspiracy theories.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Largest inaugural in history! Period ! LIE

I don't know any Russians, no one from my campaign was involved with
Russians. LIE

Drafted press release claiming meeting was about adoption. LIE

I want to release my tax returns but they are under audit. I will release them when they're done. LIE

Denies affair with Daniels. LIE

Denies knowing of payment to her. LIE

Denies affair with Playboy model. LIE

Denies knowing how she was paid off. LIE

That's just for starters.
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jacdaniels said:
the libtard snowflakes thought they had it all covered with their cheating and corruption, (reference the dummy bernie sanders) that there was no NO WAY they could lose the election.....but KING TRUMP outsmarted them.......so, now they think that the only way that could have happened was for KING TRUMP to out cheated them....but they felled to acknowledge that the american were finally catching on to their media fed lies and voted for the right man......KING TRUMP
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Someone is scared. It's "Lord Libtard" to you.
 
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