TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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luthervol said:
It's not that Trump lies; all presidents have lied. It's just that Trump lies so much more than any previous president.

It's not that Trump is a con man; all presidents were con men. It's just that Trump is such a bigger con than any previous president.

It's not that Trump is untrustworthy; all presidents were untrustworthy. It's just that Trump is so much more untrustworthy than any previous president.

Whether or not there is an impeachable offense out there; I certainly think so. We'll just have to wait a little longer.

70 days.....max. (By my count)
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70 days, July 19th. If you so firmly believe what you say, if Trump remains in office and no indictment has been presented by that time, are you willing to admit you've been wrong the whole time?
 
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Weezer said:
70 days, July 19th. If you so firmly believe what you say, if Trump remains in office and no indictment has been presented by that time, are you willing to admit you've been wrong the whole time?
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Give me until July 21st. Eighteen months was always the prediction.

And yes, of course I'll admit I was wrong. It will be pretty obvious to all.
 
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Luther, if it were to come out that the FBI, under Obama, planted a mole in Trump's campaign, how would that make you feel? Seems every bit as bad as Watergate, worse even. The difference is who could you actually pursue for charges? I'm not sure there's anyone. The idea of it turning out to be true is kind of mindboggling. As mindboggling as a Presidential candidate colluding with a foreign power to rig an election. Glad I'm not the type to believe pure speculation.
 
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Weezer said:
Luther, if it were to come out that the FBI, under Obama, planted a mole in Trump's campaign, how would that make you feel? Seems every bit as bad as Watergate, worse even. The difference is who could you actually pursue for charges? I'm not sure there's anyone. The idea of it turning out to be true is kind of mindboggling. As mindboggling as a Presidential candidate colluding with a foreign power to rig an election. Glad I'm not the type to believe pure speculation.
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I would think that would only be done with reason. There may be things in Trump's past that are known to the FBI that would warrant the placement of a mole.

That is the more probable scenario.
 
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luthervol said:
I would think that would only be done with reason. There may be things in Trump's past that are known to the FBI that would warrant the placement of a mole.

That is the more probable scenario.
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The reason was they were hoping to help Hillary win. And they still failed.

Seriously, you have to know what you're saying is complete horse ****. There is not enough "reason" in the world for a Democratic President to okay the placing of a mole in a Republican's Presidential campaign. It's so bad, I'm really hoping it's not true. That you would try to make an excuse is pretty damn sad.
 
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Weezer said:
The reason was they were hoping to help Hillary win. And they still failed.

Seriously, you have to know what you're saying is complete horse ****. There is not enough "reason" in the world for a Democratic President to okay the placing of a mole in a Republican's Presidential campaign. It's so bad, I'm really hoping it's not true. That you would try to make an excuse is pretty damn sad.
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You are making some leaps here. For one thing, we know that Paul Manafort was under FBI investigation even before the campaign began. So, of course he was still under FBI investigation as the Trump campaign manager and during the RNC. Good lord.
 
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Again, I'm hoping evidence comes forth to prove the mole thing didn't happen, but anyone who is so slanted by their political views that they believe this kind of behavior is acceptable, you need to check your values. It wouldn't be acceptable if it was a Republican doing it to a Democrat, it's not acceptable if a Democrat did it to a Republican.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are making some leaps here. For one thing, we know that Paul Manafort was under FBI investigation even before the campaign began. So, of course he was still under FBI investigation as the Trump campaign manager and during the RNC. Good lord.
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And I'm sure Nixon had good reason to break into the DNC HQ. Don't bull**** yourself. IF it happened, it's not okay. A Manafort investigation does not justify planting a mole in Trump's campaign.
 
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golfballs said:
WSJ: The FBI Hid A Mole In The Trump Campaign | Zero Hedge
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If true, they better have had some damn good just cause, or the FBI is in hot water.

It’s ‘probably’ George Nader. Guess who his attorney is?
Kathryn Ruemmler. Who’s she? Oh yeah, Obama’s ‘fixer’ in the White House. Oh yeah, speaking of Ruemmler, guess who she’s buddies with? Good ole Mueller ‘pit bull’ Andrew Weissman.

Get to know the name Kathy Ruemmler "The Fixer". | TigerDroppings.com

Guess who was at the Seychelles meeting with the founder of civilian security firm Blackwater and retired U.S. Navy SEAL, Erik Prince? You guessed it, George Nader. Oh yeah, Nader is also believed to have organized this controversial meeting in the Seychelles during which Erik Prince and others–including Kirill Dmitriev, chief executive of the Russian Direct Investment Fund.

Speaking of Erik Prince, remember this:

Erik Prince: Hillary emails show everything from pay-for-play to pedophilia, NYPD ready to make arrests - NaturalNews.com
 
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Weezer said:
Again, I'm hoping evidence comes forth to prove the mole thing didn't happen, but anyone who is so slanted by their political views that they believe this kind of behavior is acceptable, you need to check your values. It wouldn't be acceptable if it was a Republican doing it to a Democrat, it's not acceptable if a Democrat did it to a Republican.
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What if it happened as a result of the FBI investigation into Manafort? That would be acceptable.
 
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Weezer said:
And I'm sure Nixon had good reason to break into the DNC HQ. Don't bull**** yourself. IF it happened, it's not okay. A Manafort investigation does not justify planting a mole in Trump's campaign.
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He was the Trump campaign manager for a time. Do you understand that?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He was the Trump campaign manager for a time. Do you understand that?
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Yes, I understand that. Trump was running for President as part of a political party opposite of the sitting President. Do you understand the conflict of interest involved? Do you understand Trump was running against someone who was a part of that administration. If you cannot see the impropriety, you're blind.
 
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