Trump Orders U.S. Military Action Against Terrorist Drug Cartels

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MontyPython said:
Donnie is the King of Debt, Tariffman and the poster child of form over substance...

Tuesday’s strike, which killed 11 people, was unprecedented, said retired US Amb. Luis Moreno, who spent much of his career at the State Department working on counter-narcotic efforts.

“If it really was a major drug trafficking movement, why not do as we’ve always done? Get a beat on it, trace it to where they’re going to drop the drugs off, to a mothership or to someone else, and then seize the whole thing,” he told CNN.

“Just without warning, just blowing it up to smithereens in international waters, that’s not the way you’re supposed to do things,” Moreno said, arguing the strike “was done for drama, for Hollywood effect.”
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I’d be really interested to see what the JAG office supporting this task force had to say on the legality of the order to strike the boat.
 
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LouderVol said:
its easy to sell yourself on the government over reach when you pretend every boat was jam packed with Marvel level super villains guilty of murdering whole orphanages, on their way to the US with a pocket nuke, and they were seconds away from detonating it in a way that would have completely collapsed our nation as we know it. but most people should recognize that level of fear mongering assumptions makes poor justifications. and its that level of justification that has gotten us into those meaningless wars you speak of.

by the time our government admits to the stuff you claim to be against, it will be far to late to stop it or even complain about it.
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LouderVol said:
so you are going with these were Marvel level super villians and blowing up the ship was the only way to save the US, got it.
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I never claimed or implied that, you are going to very far extremes - your conversations on these subjects go to extreme levels i.e. nut. I don't know what they were doing, as I said, but what I do know is all the nuts don't really care as they never cared about the previous 100s of thousands or millions that went.

If you have some type of information, I would be more than willing to look at it but you are going to extreme lengths - we're in all kinds of countries and I/you don't even know why. Here they have at least provided a reasonable cause for the action, its not a large scale war, etc. So, if you have information - share it. But as I said the day or so after he entered office, people should be very scared and I generally support it. You might b e able to go into my history around the end of January. Now the devil is in the details, and mistakes happen.

if you aren't comfortable with Hillary, Obama, Trump or any other politician
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You need to get into details, the President has the power. You are implying there is a wrong, but not providing anything of substance. As long as they are acting reasonable and not doing it for other reasons which I believe was the case in other actions and ongoing in Ukraine, Syria and Iraqi - I generally don't have a problem it. Elect someone else, I don't even vote. The only reason this is even in the news is the Orange man wanted in the news, and the only reason why people are still talking about is the Orange man. Nobody really cares, I do to a degree, meaning if I find out the goal is something else but at the end of the day I have nothing else to go on at this time.

Blowing up people is not necessarily the problem, its the why that is important... maybe information will come out in the future and I will change my tune based on that info.

As far as I am concern, Trump has done a piss poor job on foreign policy i.e. Ukraine, Iran and Iraqi, he has said they are withdrawing from Syria but he was also involved in nonsense bombing.

You might be talking to the wrong person, I have no problem blowing people up under these circumstances at this point (if credible)... and you really would be upset who they were targeting closer to our border. I would generally support that as well.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The lack of vision in this article that assumes they don't have intelligence on the source.
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Perhaps. The problem with anything that Trump claims as a "fact" is usually a "lie".

So, there's a bit of a credibility issue here, as far as I'm concerned.

And where, exactly, was this boat blown up?

And if this was a significant amount of drugs, why didn't the Navy track them to their destination - where they could have discovered their (purported) American dealer. Why *wouldn't* the Trump administration want to know this.

I'm guessing it was headed towards Marco Rubio's brother-in-law's place.

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LSU-SIU said:
I never claimed or implied that, you are going to very far extremes - your conversations on these subjects go to extreme levels i.e. nut. I don't know what they were doing, as I said, but what I do know is all the nuts don't really care as they never cared about the previous 100s of thousands or millions that went.

If you have some type of information, I would be more than willing to look at it but you are going to extreme lengths - we're in all kinds of countries and I/you don't even know why. Here they have at least provided a reasonable cause for the action, its not a large scale war, etc. So, if you have information - share it. But as I said the day or so after he entered office, people should be very scared and I generally support it. You might b e able to go into my history around the end of January. Now the devil is in the details, and mistakes happen.



You need to get into details, the President has the power. You are implying there is a wrong, but not providing anything of substance. As long as they are acting reasonable and not doing it for other reasons which I believe was the case in other actions and ongoing in Ukraine, Syria and Iraqi - I generally don't have a problem it. Elect someone else, I don't even vote. The only reason this is even in the news is the Orange man wanted in the news, and the only reason why people are still talking about is the Orange man. Nobody really cares, I do to a degree, meaning if I find out the goal is something else but at the end of the day I have nothing else to go on at this time.

Blowing up people is not necessarily the problem, its the why that is important... maybe information will come out in the future and I will change my tune based on that info.

As far as I am concern, Trump has done a piss poor job on foreign policy i.e. Ukraine, Iran and Iraqi, he has said they are withdrawing from Syria but he was also involved in nonsense bombing.

You might be talking to the wrong person, I have no problem blowing people up under these circumstances at this point (if credible)... and you really would be upset who they were targeting closer to our border. I would generally support that as well.
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yeah I am not the one in the extremes.

our strikes on Iran weren't large scale war, but you were against that. like I said you have a double standard when it comes to Trump.
 
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we are going to spend far more money blowing up their ish than they would ever make selling it.

one plane goes down, and the cost benefit numbers get really out of whack. with says nothing about the risk to life.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Interesting to see MAGA all in on making the "war on drugs" more expensive and futile than it ever has been.
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You seem upset about it. Almost like you enjoy Americans dying from OD. Or Americans developing drug addictions and destroying families/communities. Trump has liberals sympathizing with cartels, I’ll be damned.
 
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Majors said:
You seem upset about it. Almost like you enjoy Americans dying from OD. Or Americans developing drug addictions and destroying families/communities. Trump has liberals sympathizing with cartels, I’ll be damned.
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The fact that you believe using military assets to blow up a few supposed drug sites in Venezuela will have a measurable impact on drug overdoses in the United States, is very telling.
 
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Majors said:
You seem upset about it. Almost like you enjoy Americans dying from OD. Or Americans developing drug addictions and destroying families/communities. Trump has liberals sympathizing with cartels, I’ll be damned.
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Bearded's party has no problem if a few Americans die as long as the goal is reached
 
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