Trump Orders U.S. Military Action Against Terrorist Drug Cartels

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TVOLS said:

Trump Orders U.S. Military Action Against Terrorist Drug Cartels​


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Trump Orders U.S. Military Action Against Terrorist Drug Cartels Flooding America With Fentanyl

Trump orders military action against drug cartels flooding the U.S. with fentanyl.
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Could find an appropriate thread for this so just merge where needed. This is a big deal IMO
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I don't like it one bit. If it's advising, intelligence and logistic help to the locals with their invitation the fine but no direct unilateral action.
 
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McDad said:
Uncle Sam, with his military hammer, has never met a problem that doesn't look like a nail.

Decriminalize the products. That would crush the cartels faster than anything else we can do.
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Things are heading the other direction.

Here in Texas, THC is now illegal again after being legalized several years ago and blossoming into a multi-billion dollar industry - which they are now killing off.
 
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General Jack said:
Things are heading the other direction.

Here in Texas, THC is now illegal again after being legalized several years ago and blossoming into a multi-billion dollar industry - which they are now killing off.
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Texas has never been a forward-thinking state. It's a shame, too. it could be the brightest example of freedom and individuality for the whole nation if it wanted to.
 
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McDad said:
Texas has never been a forward-thinking state. It's a shame, too. it could be the brightest example of freedom and individuality for the whole nation if it wanted to.
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Disagree. Up until this century, they did their own thing. The oil industry, and specifically Exxon, provided some forward thinking cooperatives to enhance growth in rural areas. In addition they usually ran that state by their initiatives, not by cooperating with the ideological whims out of the Fed
 
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We'll see how far it actually goes. It's hard to stop something that has guaranteed pots of gold at the end of the rainbow. Yeah, legalization would stop it, but America doesn't have the stomach for that right now...and based on the limited data we have now, legalization would lead to other problems, but it damn sure would crush the cartels. The U.S. military could crush them too, but I would bet it would be like fighting terrorists, kill one and another springs up because we don't, and won't do it the right way. Other countries can't stop us, no matter what we decide. Will be interesting.
 
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norrislakevol said:
We'll see how far it actually goes. It's hard to stop something that has guaranteed pots of gold at the end of the rainbow. Yeah, legalization would stop it, but America doesn't have the stomach for that right now...and based on the limited data we have now, legalization would lead to other problems, but it damn sure would crush the cartels. The U.S. military could crush them too, but I would bet it would be like fighting terrorists, kill one and another springs up because we don't, and won't do it the right way. Other countries can't stop us, no matter what we decide. Will be interesting.
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The plan will change multiple times. Just like the deadline on Russia. Trump hinted yesterday it's now up to them regardless of the deadline he set for the entire world to see
 
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hog88 said:
I don't like it one bit. If it's advising, intelligence and logistic help to the locals with their invitation the fine but no direct unilateral action.
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We've done it before: The Pancho Villa expedition in 1916. Pancho's men only killed 18 American citizens. The cartels kill far more than that on daily basis.

Against the military being used within the states, but going after these animals, not so much. What are your reasons against it?

PS: legalizing it would, as @McDad said, destroy the cartels quickly.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
We've done it before: The Pancho Villa expedition in 1916. Pancho's men only killed 18 American citizens. The cartels kill far more than that on daily basis.

Against the military being used within the states, but going after these animals, not so much. What are your reasons against it?

PS: legalizing it would, as @McDad said, destroy the cartels quickly.
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We did this in the early 90s and it put us in very precarious situations. We didn’t know what the ROI was, who were the “friendlies” or who had our backs.
 
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TVOLS said:

Trump Orders U.S. Military Action Against Terrorist Drug Cartels​


townhall.com

Trump Orders U.S. Military Action Against Terrorist Drug Cartels Flooding America With Fentanyl

Trump orders military action against drug cartels flooding the U.S. with fentanyl.
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Could find an appropriate thread for this so just merge where needed. This is a big deal IMO
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I don't perceive a reason to be concerned at all about this, as it's quite ambiguous and no indication there's a pending action. I consider it to be furthering pressuring the Mexican government to work with the U.S., and regain sovereignty of their nation, a good thing for both. That goes for other Latin American nations, as well. And Canada.

Cartels cannot be viewed simply as criminal groups; they are paramilitary organizations. Border security is national security; I think there are likely areas of opportunity for our military and border forces to cooperate.

It isn't just narcotics any more, if it ever was. Aside from human labor and sex trafficking, cartels are involved in a variety of cyber, finance, and extortion crimes. I'm skeptical legalizing would impact the cartels; why wouldn't they simply redirect their fortunes into newly-legalized drug cultivation and trafficking? The question is not whether we can eliminate crime and crime-fighting effort by legalizing an activity, but whether legalizing narcotics has any sort of net benefit. I don't see it.
 
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