Trump Ignores the Courts

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LOL, probation and community service for the person forging documents to wiretap a Presidential campaign.

From the article:

U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg made headlines Saturday for granting an emergency restraining order blocking the Trump administration from invoking a 1798 law to immediately deport Venezuelan nationals, including alleged members of the violent gang Tren de Aragua, for 14 days. Boasberg sided with the plaintiffs, Democracy Forward and the ACLU, in ruling that the deportations would likely pose imminent and "irreparable" harm.

This was not the first time Boasberg found himself in the crosshairs of Trump's supporters – he previously oversaw the FISA court that authorized surveillance of certain members of Trump's 2016 campaign.

After returning full-time to the federal bench, Boasberg oversaw the sentencing of former FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith, who pleaded guilty to doctoring a 2017 email asking to extend surveillance permissions for its wiretap of former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.

Boasberg declined to sentence Clinesmith to prison time and instead ordered him to just 12 months of probation and 400 hours of community service – a notable decision, given his own background on the FISA court.

Who is James Boasberg, the US judge at center of Trump's deportation efforts? | Fox News

U.S. District Court Judge James Boasberg blocked Trump’s use of a wartime law to deport Venezuelan migrants, sparking backlash from Trump's border czar, Tom Homan.
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85SugarVol said:
I’m amazed that these men, who just touched down in El Salvador, have no criminal record in El Salvador.

That’s news worthy.
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I think he is making the point that El Salvador has no reason to hold them because they don't have a record there either.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think he is making the point that El Salvador has no reason to hold them because they don't have a record there either.
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My understanding is El Salvador is housing them as in commerce. I take it to mean, the more serious ones go to El Salvador before going home. There is a possibility they broke El Salvador law during the trip to the U.S.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
My understanding is El Salvador is housing them as in commerce. I take it to mean, the more serious ones go to El Salvador before going home. There is a possibility they broke El Salvador law during the trip to the U.S.
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My take is that El Salvador is the final destination for many of them, as no one else will take them.

The administration listed the fact that this gang radicalizes other inmates and grows/thrives in prisons, so the US will not put them in our prison and make the TdA problem a home-grown one. (It's hard enough to fight when you can deport them.)

El Salvador claims to have developed a prison system where they don't believe the TdA will thrive/survive, so they have sold it to the US as a service.

(That's my understanding.)
 
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whodeycin85 said:
When it comes out the judge overstepped his authority are you gonna come here and admit your wring or keep posting crap?
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If he was without the lawful authority to make the order the appeals court would reverse. That's the way this works. The administration doesn't get to fiat its desire for what the law is.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If he was without the lawful authority to make the order the appeals court would reverse. That's the way this works. The administration doesn't get to fiat its desire for what the law is.
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Trump actions were covered under the Aliens Enemy Act. They have stated as such. The USSC has ruled that a Presidents actions under this law are not subject to judicial review. The judge should know this, so why did this judge move forward trying to block a national security operation ordered by a duly elected President and put the Constitution is a state of crisis with this obvious judicial overreach?
 
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hog88 said:
A US judge has ZERO jurisdiction over a foreign flagged carrier outside of US airspace. Think about it for a minute, WTF can he do to them even if they received an order to turn around and they didn't? To have jurisdiction you have to have a mechanism to enforce that jurisdiction.
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He also didn’t even enquire as to the fuel situation of the aircraft involved, weather conditions, or anything else that are the sole concerns of the pilot of the aircraft. Would a judge feel similarly qualified to issue order to a doctor performing a surgery? An astronaut in orbit? He didn’t even qualify his order with „if the pilot can safely do so“
 
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CobbVol said:
Trump actions were covered under the Aliens Enemy Act. They have stated as such. The USSC has ruled that a Presidents actions under this law are not subject to judicial review. The judge should know this, so why did this judge move forward trying to block a national security operation ordered by a duly elected President and put the Constitution is a state of crisis with this obvious judicial overreach?
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Because there is no accountability for a judge making a blatantly erroneous judgement. All they get is overturned on appeal. They suffer no consequence for their mistakes. There should be a system where a certain number of incidents of being overturned results is a demotion, continuing education, or flat out being sidelined for a period of time.
A federal judge is the only person in government who can continuously get away with the worst malfeasance ad impeachment is almost impossible. Especially when the „Chief Justice“ thinks he can dictate what is and is not a valid ground for impeachment
 
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He also didn’t even enquire as to the fuel situation of the aircraft involved, weather conditions, or anything else that are the sole concerns of the pilot of the aircraft. Would a judge feel similarly qualified to issue order to a doctor performing a surgery? An astronaut in orbit? He didn’t even qualify his order with „if the pilot can safely do so“
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The question is did he actually order the plane to turn around? It's looking like he didn't.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If he was without the lawful authority to make the order the appeals court would reverse. That's the way this works. The administration doesn't get to fiat its desire for what the law is.
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Apparently they do. This isn't a blinking contest between you and the government. It's one lower tier of one branch against the executive branch.

This is merely about creating a narrative. The judge knows it. You know it. We know it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If he was without the lawful authority to make the order the appeals court would reverse. That's the way this works. The administration doesn't get to fiat its desire for what the law is.
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Philosophical question for you. Nationwide Injunctions from District Judges - Good or Bad?

Some thoughts from Elena Kagan in 2022

During her remarks on Wednesday in a conversation with Northwestern Law Dean Hari Osofsky, Kagan took a notably hostile and forceful stand against a practice that hasn't generated much public debate but has roiled the legal community in recent years: individual U.S. District Court judges blocking federal government policies nationwide.

Executive branch officials from the Biden, Trump and Obama administrations have all complained about their major policy initiatives often being hamstrung by a single judge.

"This has no political tilt to it," Kagan said, taking aim not only at the sweeping injunctions but at the transparent "forum shopping" by litigants filing cases in courts they think will be friendliest to them.

"You look at something like that and you think, that can't be right," Kagan said. "In the Trump years, people used to go to the Northern District of California, and in the Biden years, they go to Texas. It just can't be right that one district judge can stop a nationwide policy in its tracks and leave it stopped for the years that it takes to go through the normal process."

Seems both sides cheer it on when it happens to the other, only to turn around and bitch when the shoe is on the other foot.

reason.com

Justice Kagan Enters the Debate on the National Injunction

Justice Kagan was interviewed today at Northwestern Law School, and she addressed the national injunction. Here's the account by Josh Gerstein of
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CobbVol said:
Trump actions were covered under the Aliens Enemy Act. They have stated as such. The USSC has ruled that a Presidents actions under this law are not subject to judicial review. The judge should know this, so why did this judge move forward trying to block a national security operation ordered by a duly elected President and put the Constitution is a state of crisis with this obvious judicial overreach?
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That's an argument.

You don't get to ignore a court that disagrees.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Shocked, I tell ya. Completely shocked.

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» Who Did the Trump Administration Just Send to El Salvador’s Dungeons?

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Sounds like they got the right ones.

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