Trump & Child Separation

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zeppelin128 said:
If Obama was in office now I'd post about it. He's not, Trump is.
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Why would you comment on it at all? Are we not a sovereign nation, and do borders not come with that? Is it wrong of cities, counties and other jurisdictions to have boundaries and laws that they enforce within those boundaries? If you own a home, is it not your prerogative to decide who may enter and what is acceptable behavior inside your home? Whether it's a club, a town, a county, a country, we are all part of something, and those who aren't aren't.

We didn't get to be a place where a Honduran wants to come by being like Honduras, but it is the people of a nation who make that nation what it is. Because we've been better at nation building doesn't implicitly mean we should welcome people who failed at building their nations - particularly if their number eventually erodes the very culture that has made us successful. We became better by an amalgam of legal immigrants who would have been offended by a need to "press 2 for ..." And don't forget many of those people were detained in places like Ellis Island while screened for many things including disease.

Also, thank you, for your comment in another thread.
 
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In the midst of the controversy over the detention of illegal immigrants and characterizations of it as a “family separation” policy, Wikipedia editors added a section about detention facilities for illegal immigrants to a page listing “concentration and internment camps.” Although the section violated several of the site’s policies, favorable coverage from Gizmodo and Vice followed three days later.
 
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AM64 said:
Why would you comment on it at all? Are we not a sovereign nation, and do borders not come with that? Is it wrong of cities, counties and other jurisdictions to have boundaries and laws that they enforce within those boundaries? If you own a home, is it not your prerogative to decide who may enter and what is acceptable behavior inside your home? Whether it's a club, a town, a county, a country, we are all part of something, and those who aren't aren't.

We didn't get to be a place where a Honduran wants to come by being like Honduras, but it is the people of a nation who make that nation what it is. Because we've been better at nation building doesn't implicitly mean we should welcome people who failed at building their nations - particularly if their number eventually erodes the very culture that has made us successful. We became better by an amalgam of legal immigrants who would have been offended by a need to "press 2 for ..." And don't forget many of those people were detained in places like Ellis Island while screened for many things including disease.

Also, thank you, for your comment in another thread.
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While we disagree on the immigration issue, this is one of the more thought-out, rational defenses for tougher immigration laws I've read on here. Well said.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
While we disagree on the immigration issue, this is one of the more thought-out, rational defenses for tougher immigration laws I've read on here. Well said.
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Thank you. Most of us who are anti illegal immigration probably have nothing against most of the people involved - or their attempt to better their lives. It has far more to do with having lived in a country where our ancestors did what they needed to improve our lot - they tamed the wild west and they did much to limit organized crime. However, there's been an influx of gang (organized crime) coming with illegal aliens; we just have to do a lot better job of managing who we accept, and you can't do it by turning a blind eye to the problem.
 
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A growing number of open border socialists are calling for ICE to be abolished. Some loon has introduced a bill in Congress to do so, I beg and plead Ryan brings this to the floor and let’s get the Antifa party on record to see who all supports this.
 
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Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) has canceled a pair of public events after she received a “very serious death threat,” CNN reported Thursday.

The congresswoman said in a statement that she had seen an increase in threats after she called for protestors to publicly confront Trump officials.

"As the President has continued to lie and falsely claim that I encouraged people to assault his supporters, while also offering a veiled threat that I should 'be careful', even more individuals are leaving (threatening) messages and sending hostile mail to my office," Waters said in the statement, according to CNN.

She said there was "one very serious death threat" made against her on Monday from a person in Texas, "which is why my planned speaking engagements in Texas and Alabama were cancelled this weekend."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/394753-maxine-waters-cancels-events-over-very-serious-death-threat
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) has canceled a pair of public events after she received a “very serious death threat,” CNN reported Thursday.

The congresswoman said in a statement that she had seen an increase in threats after she called for protestors to publicly confront Trump officials.

"As the President has continued to lie and falsely claim that I encouraged people to assault his supporters, while also offering a veiled threat that I should 'be careful', even more individuals are leaving (threatening) messages and sending hostile mail to my office," Waters said in the statement, according to CNN.

She said there was "one very serious death threat" made against her on Monday from a person in Texas, "which is why my planned speaking engagements in Texas and Alabama were cancelled this weekend."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/394753-maxine-waters-cancels-events-over-very-serious-death-threat
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What's the saying?
What's Good for the Goose is Good for the Gander.:)

I could care less what happens to Mad Maxine. She is an evil idiot.
 
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SIAP:

Ex-Clinton aide: 84 percent of Americans support turning undocumented immigrants over to authorities

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/394624-mark-penn-84-percent-support-turning-undocumented-immigrants-over-authorities

Prominent Democratic pollster Mark Penn said on Thursday that a vast majority of Americans don’t really support so-called sanctuary cities that shield immigrants in the country illegally from deportation.

Penn, who served as chief strategist for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign, revealed that 84 percent of Americans favor turning undocumented immigrants over to federal agents.

“I asked them, ‘Do you think notifying ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] would in fact increase crime because it would inhibit people from reporting crimes or does it decrease crimes because it takes criminals off the street,’ and they overwhelming said ‘decrease,’ ” Penn told Hill.TV's “Rising.”
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zeppelin128 said:
Maybe you will understand the extent of hate. Hopefully before it is too late.
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Interesting comment. Why don't you expand on that a little. Not that you want to see me hurt which is clearly the intent of that post... but what you mean by 'the extent of hate', and who is harboring that.
 
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