Trump approval rating: the very definition of fake news

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Septic said:
How is providing you a link that explains in detail what you're asking a deflection? It's literally the opposite.

As usual you're inexplicably ducking an opportunity to sit with the adults. If saying dumb sht and acting like a child is your idea of winning, then you're the undisputed champ. 'grats.
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Oh hey look, septic making up crap to cover for his shortcomings. I never defended the meme, DA.

What’s he doing in the photo?
 
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tumscalcium said:
Oh hey look, septic making up crap to cover for his shortcomings. I never defended the meme, DA.

What’s he doing in the photo?
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This weblink includes a video of Anderson Cooper using old video clips to explain everything. Anderson Cooper debunks Don Trump Jr’s fake news

Donald Trump, Jr. tweeted the same fake meme you shared, claiming it was from Hurricane Florence. But, it’s actually from a different hurricane from 10 years earlier. The black cameraman in your meme was unfortunately dead before Florence happened.
 
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ukvols said:
SIAP, but the only thing fake about this Anderson Cooper story was the garbage attempt to smear him. 2018 hurricane hoax uses 2008 Anderson Cooper photo

If it’s a meme, and it’s on Facebook, and it’s from the right wing, it is nearly always a deliberate falsehood. The problem is right-wingers on Facebook seem willing to believe literally anything that reinforces their beliefs without doing any further research themselves.
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I don’t have FB . I didn’t include any pic with a title or claim about when it was from , I did read the “ was done for visual appearance “ part and where he said he would obstruct the roadway if he stood on higher ground” . I guess his camera didn’t where it was at . Meh . Want to take a swing at the other one while your at it ?
 
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tumscalcium said:
Go back and read my question.
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Whoever created the fake meme did it because they knew right-wingers on social media eagerly gobble up and spread anything they think exposes CNN or a liberal.

The fact that you refuse to watch a video that debunks your meme proves my point that right-wingers frequently engage in willful disregard of the truth. They’d rather cling to a falsehood than engage in a real discussion of ideas. Having a pathological liar in the White House who yells fake news at anyone who criticizes him while he constantly lies himself only makes it worse.
 
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ukvols said:
Whoever created the fake meme did it because they knew right-wingers on social media eagerly gobble up and spread anything they think exposes CNN or a liberal.

The fact that you refuse to watch a video that debunks your meme proves my point that right-wingers frequently engage in willful disregard of the truth. They’d rather cling to a falsehood than engage in a real discussion of ideas. Having a pathological liar in the White House who tells fake news at anyone who criticizes him while he constantly lies himself only makes it worse.
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It’s not my meme. I never spread it. I quit reading after that.

Try again.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I don’t have FB . I didn’t include any pic with a title or claim about when it was from , I did read the “ was done for visual appearance “ part and where he said he would obstruct the roadway if he stood on higher ground” . I guess his camera didn’t where it was at . Meh . Want to take a swing at the other one while your at it ?
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The fake meme with Anderson Cooper was created to fool people into thinking Cooper was lying about how deep the water is. If you watch Cooper’s video, it’s obvious that he was making no attempt to conceal the fact that the cameraman was in more shallow water.

I don’t know anything about the source of the other meme. I’m guessing they were showing some support for the ‘hands up, don’t shoot’ protests from Ferguson. I ignored it and jumped on the Cooper meme because I was familiar with it and knew it to be a deliberate falsehood that someone created for right-wingers to eat and spread.

FWIW, I seldon watch CNN. My recent posts aren’t about defending all things CNN. They were about showing how often right-wingers spread fake news. I have several conservative friends on Facebook and several liberal friends on Facebook, and it’s not even close as to who shares more fake news and how the different groups react when shown that they posted fake news.
 
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tumscalcium said:
It’s not my meme. I never spread it. I quit reading after that.

Try again.
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So, the meme didn’t come from you.
But, you’re standing by its contents with no interest in reading and watching what debunked it.
As I said further up this page, Don Jr. tweeted that the pic was from Florence. Cooper’s cameraman in the pic died before Florence. It’s an old pic. Cooper was simply giving the news live on CNN. He was in deeper water than the cameraman. There’s nothing ‘fishy’ about Cooper’s old hurricane story. A sick right-winger took the old screenshot and used it to claim Cooper was lying about how deep Florence’s waters were and the President’s idiot son shared it and falsely claimed Cooper was lying about Florence. You’ll never see Don or Don Jr. admit to a mistake, even an honest mistake.
 
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ukvols said:
Whoever created the fake meme did it because they knew right-wingers on social media eagerly gobble up and spread anything they think exposes CNN or a liberal.

The fact that you refuse to watch a video that debunks your meme proves my point that right-wingers frequently engage in willful disregard of the truth. They’d rather cling to a falsehood than engage in a real discussion of ideas. Having a pathological liar in the White House who yells fake news at anyone who criticizes him while he constantly lies himself only makes it worse.
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Bannon knew there was a market of the gullible.
Steve Bannon thought "culture war" was the way to change U.S. politics, says whistleblower
Steve Bannon shares a fascist's obsession with cleansing, apocalyptic war. And now he's in the White House
And of course, in contemporary pockets of the alt-right internet, Neo-Nazi memes can be found alongside half-ironic invocations of “chaos magick” and discourse about victory in the “meme wars”: the Internet’s self-proclaimed role in getting Donald Trump elected.
World War Meme
The chance encounter was a rare in-real-life meeting of veterans of the Great Meme War. That’s the grandiose name given—only half ironically—to the decentralized efforts of a swarm of anonymous internet nerds to harass Trump’s detractors and flood the Web with pro-Trump, anti-Hillary Clinton propaganda. Their weapons of choice were memes, bits of reproducible culture whose most recognizable form is shareable internet photos, like cats behaving adorably or Clinton sending a text message, with captions meant to be funny.
 
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AshG said:
The psychology of it all cannot be ignored. Anyone who watches any of the cable news channels is less informed than those who get their news from other, unbiased and curated sources. And in some cases those who pay attention to cable news are far worse off.

I lost my dad to Fox News: How a generation was captured by thrashing hysteria
How Fox News Destroys Families: A Personal Story
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The job of news networks are not to report news, but rather to entertain their respective viewer bases. It's not any worse with Fox as it is with CNN or MSNBC. All news networks utilize hyperbole to indoctrinate and portray the other side as being extremists.

I firmly believe that people should read their news rather than watch it. (Unless it's from Infowars or another equivalent site.)
 
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ukvols said:
The fake meme with Anderson Cooper was created to fool people into thinking Cooper was lying about how deep the water is. If you watch Cooper’s video, it’s obvious that he was making no attempt to conceal the fact that the cameraman was in more shallow water.

I don’t know anything about the source of the other meme. I’m guessing they were showing some support for the ‘hands up, don’t shoot’ protests from Ferguson. I ignored it and jumped on the Cooper meme because I was familiar with it and knew it to be a deliberate falsehood that someone created for right-wingers to eat and spread.

FWIW, I seldon watch CNN. My recent posts aren’t about defending all things CNN. They were about showing how often right-wingers spread fake news. I have several conservative friends on Facebook and several liberal friends on Facebook, and it’s not even close as to who shares more fake news and how the different groups react when shown that they posted fake news.
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Same I have news feeds from , CNN , FOX and BBC ( somehow VOX and VanityFair attached themselves ) but I’m not an avid cable news watcher . You may have more conservative friends on FB that pass off memes but have you seen twitter ? One pic from kids in a cage with the caption that it’s Trumps doing and it explodes with rage . My point is and always has been the lefts proganda machine is alive and well , why try to deny it and put all the blame on the rights machine ?
 
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luthervol said:
Bannon knew there was a market of the gullible.
Steve Bannon thought "culture war" was the way to change U.S. politics, says whistleblower
Steve Bannon shares a fascist's obsession with cleansing, apocalyptic war. And now he's in the White House
And of course, in contemporary pockets of the alt-right internet, Neo-Nazi memes can be found alongside half-ironic invocations of “chaos magick” and discourse about victory in the “meme wars”: the Internet’s self-proclaimed role in getting Donald Trump elected.
World War Meme
The chance encounter was a rare in-real-life meeting of veterans of the Great Meme War. That’s the grandiose name given—only half ironically—to the decentralized efforts of a swarm of anonymous internet nerds to harass Trump’s detractors and flood the Web with pro-Trump, anti-Hillary Clinton propaganda. Their weapons of choice were memes, bits of reproducible culture whose most recognizable form is shareable internet photos, like cats behaving adorably or Clinton sending a text message, with captions meant to be funny.
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Research and fact have no place on this board, and you know that.

I respond to you with rehashed denials and deflections. I insult you and your viewpoint. I intentionally misspell words in an inarticulate attempt to bring shame upon your perceived political affiliation. I insult your ancestry. Vah!
 
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AshG said:
Research and fact have no place on this board, and you know that.

I respond to you with rehashed denials and deflections. I insult you and your viewpoint. I intentionally misspell words in an inarticulate attempt to bring shame upon your perceived political affiliation. I insult your ancestry. Vah!
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Sounds like all you are doing is sucking up for more continuum points , I was about to call you an ugly liberal until I realized you may be of Scottish decent so now you are an ugly liberal that I’m positive wears a kilt that’s way too short .
 
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0nelilreb said:
Sounds like all you are doing is sucking up for more continuum points , I was about to call you an ugly liberal until I realized you may be of Scottish decent so now you are an ugly liberal that I’m positive wears a kilt that’s way too short .
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Nope, still conservative, sorry.

Also, I love kilts and am proud of my Scot heritage.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I knew it ! Now put some underwear on damnit .
Edit : got to admit that was a dang good guess 😂
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Hah! It's all good. I have fiery, short-tempered Scot blood on both sides of my family. Some northern German on my dad's side thrown in for good measure.

Dandridge First United Methodist Church (my home church) has an annual Kirking of the Tartans service, and Dandridge has a Burns Nacht dinner with haggis. I miss that place!
 
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0nelilreb said:
Same I have news feeds from , CNN , FOX and BBC ( somehow VOX and VanityFair attached themselves ) but I’m not an avid cable news watcher . You may have more conservative friends on FB that pass off memes but have you seen twitter ? One pic from kids in a cage with the caption that it’s Trumps doing and it explodes with rage . My point is and always has been the lefts proganda machine is alive and well , why try to deny it and put all the blame on the rights machine ?
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Trump (not Obama) started the practice of separating children from parents, but you’re right that someone used an Obama-era pic from when he dealt with kids crossing the border by themselves to ‘show’ Trump’s cages, and it went viral. It was fake, and it was memorable. It was one of the literally handful of times my liberal friends have shared something fake since Trump was elected. My conservative friends’ sharing of fake news is never memorable because it’s a daily drip and not a once-a-year occurence that goes viral.
 
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Well to be honest it was pretty good odds , I enjoy history and since 1-5 people can trace the history back to Scotts around the east Tennessee area , I had a pretty good chance of getting the bat on the ball . Lol
 
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#170
Clan McDougall, which became McDowell during the migration across Ireland and into the states. I'm related to the Union General McDowell on my mother's side. Raised in the Cumberlands, moved to the Smokies by choice.
 
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ukvols said:
Trump (not Obama) started the practice of separating children from parents, but you’re right that someone used an Obama-era pic from when he dealt with kids crossing the border by themselves to ‘show’ Trump’s cages, and it went viral. It was fake, and it was memorable. It was one of the literally handful of times my liberal friends have shared something fake since Trump was elected. My conservative friends’ sharing of fake news is never memorable because it’s a daily drip and not a once-a-year occurence that goes viral.
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I pick on CNN because it’s easy , they claim to be unbiased and want to project that so badly so they can claim they only report facts . CNN would do much better if they just admitted they are left leaning and be done with it . Nobody thinks Fox doesn’t pull for the right , nobody thinks MSNBC doesn’t pull for the left . CNN won’t admit it and instead doubles down , I saw Tapper doing that when he said nobody at this network did anything but report the news the last two years . So he didn’t see anything they did wrong . Just own it and move on .
 
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0nelilreb said:
I pick on CNN because it’s easy , they claim to be unbiased and want to project that so badly so they can claim they only report facts . CNN would do much better if they just admitted they are left leaning and be done with it . Nobody thinks Fox doesn’t pull for the right , nobody thinks MSNBC doesn’t pull for the left . CNN won’t admit it and instead doubles down , I saw Tapper doing that when he said nobody at this network did anything but report the news the last two years . So he didn’t see anything they did wrong . Just own it and move on .
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If you’re asking me to own something in regards to CNN’s reporting, I’m not sure how to respond. I don’t work there and seldom watch them.

My experience is that both sides dislike CNN for different reasons. CNN criticizes Trump but is also quick to criticize progressive ideas.
 
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ukvols said:
If you’re asking me to own something in regards to CNN’s reporting, I’m not sure how to respond. I don’t work there and seldom watch them.

My experience is that both sides dislike CNN for different reasons. CNN criticizes Trump but is also quick to criticize progressive ideas.
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No not you , CNN .
 
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#175
ukvols said:
Whoever created the fake meme did it because they knew right-wingers on social media eagerly gobble up and spread anything they think exposes CNN or a liberal.

The fact that you refuse to watch a video that debunks your meme proves my point that right-wingers frequently engage in willful disregard of the truth. They’d rather cling to a falsehood than engage in a real discussion of ideas. Having a pathological liar in the White House who yells fake news at anyone who criticizes him while he constantly lies himself only makes it worse.
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One reason I love Trump is he causes liberals to into convulsions. It's hilarious. Do another one!
 
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