Trump and Authoritarianism

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#127
AM64 said:
I agree. When you get right down to it "liberal", "socialist", and "communist" are really the same thing - just separated by the degree of commitment and control. Most RINOs are using training wheels, but some are definitely committed socialists.
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That's a great metaphor; Rinos using socialist training wheels.
 
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McDad said:
That's a great metaphor; Rinos using socialist training wheels.
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All Reps have the liberal spending part down pat - I'm not actually sure there's a real fiscal conservative to be found in DC - in either party. The dedicated RINOs wobble, and some definitely lean to the social engineering side.
 
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AM64 said:
All Reps have the liberal spending part down pat - I'm not actually sure there's a real fiscal conservative to be found in DC - in either party. The dedicated RINOs wobble, and some definitely lean to the social engineering side.
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Both reps and dems serve the Fed on fiscal matters and divide us on social policy to distract from the fact that they are lining the pockets of the elites at our expense. Note that both are war mongers as well because war is part of the US fiscal policy.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
ACA was the biggest authoritarian act I believe I have ever witnessed.
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Missed this post yesterday. Here are some others from recent history:
-Wall Street bank bailout.
-The conversion of TSA to federal employees.
-SCOTUS expanding eminent domain precedent (Florida case).
 
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McDad said:
Missed this post yesterday. Here are some others from recent history:
-Wall Street bank bailout.
-The conversion of TSA to federal employees.
-SCOTUS expanding imminent domain precedent (Florida case).
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Eminent domain. Eminent means prominent and distinguished people, or meaning to emphasize a positive quality or fairness. Imminent means something is about to happen.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Both reps and dems serve the Fed on fiscal matters and divide us on social policy to distract from the fact that they are lining the pockets of the elites at our expense. Note that both are war mongers as well because war is part of the US fiscal policy.
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:good!:
 
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1972 Grad said:
Eminent domain. Eminent means prominent and distinguished people, or meaning to emphasize a positive quality or fairness. Imminent means something is about to happen.
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Something is about to happen if you correct me again.

Jk. Appreciate the lesson. Thanks.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Being mean /= authoritarian.

Trumps not a very nice person. Nut up and act like a damn adult and stop crying so damn much. You lost move on.
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Step 1 - ask people how Trump has been an authoritarian

Step 2 - after they comply with the request and tell you specific and valid incidents where he acted like an authoritarian, call it something else and then tell them to stop crying and that they need to move on.

Beautiful
 
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#136
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1972 Grad said:
I was under the impression that a President didn't make laws, but only signed laws passed by both houses. Are you worried about an edict from Trump that will execute your drug dealer or something, and it won't make the news because Trump won't let the paper print it?
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Not sure what the relevance is here. Are you saying congress is the body of government that decides punishment for crimes?

Trump's AG has ramped up the war on drugs. There is no disputing that this is an authoritarian move.

Go tell the founders that we spend $50B+ annually fighting a war against consumable products and that we have the largest prison population in the world because of it. They'll tell you we're authoritarians.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Not sure what the relevance is here. Are you saying congress is the body of government that decides punishment for crimes?

Trump's AG has ramped up the war on drugs. There is no disputing that this is an authoritarian move.

Go tell the founders that we spend $50B+ annually fighting a war against consumable products and that we have the largest prison population in the world because of it. They'll tell you we're authoritarians.
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How is it that one part of government is authoritarian for enforcing the law as written by another branch made up of representatives elected by the people - or worse by that other branch made up of unelected tin pot despots who make law as they see fit? I do always use the term "representatives" very, very loosely when referring to congress - and congress doesn't earn enough respect to deserve a capital "c".
 
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AM64 said:
How is it that one part of government is authoritarian for enforcing the law as written by another branch made up of representatives elected by the people - or worse by that other branch made up of unelected tin pot despots who make law as they see fit? I do always use the term "representatives" very, very loosely when referring to congress - and congress doesn't earn enough respect to deserve a capital "c".
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Congress is full of authoritarians too. You guys (both parties) keep voting for them.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Step 1 - ask people how Trump has been an authoritarian

Step 2 - after they comply with the request and tell you specific and valid incidents where he acted like an authoritarian, call it something else and then tell them to stop crying and that they need to move on.

Beautiful
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Looks like you’ve got it huff! Nice! And who said you weren’t trainable. 😬
 
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lawgator1 said:
Placing someone in the campaign is different than someone there on their own telling the FBI they are worried that Trump or those near to him have been compromised.

This is eerily similar to the lie Trump told about being wiretapped. One guy was subject to a warrant. So if he was called there it would be picked up. Trump turned that into his building being wiretapped, which is utterly false.

Now, he's taking the fact that someone ratted him out and making it seem like someone was actually placed there by the FBI.

Again, a ludicrous falsehood by Trump.
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What we have here is an all out attack by tRump and the g o p faaaaar right freedom caucus to obstruct, obfuscate, and derail a legitimate federal investigation. Shameful abuse of power to undermine democracy and the rule of law. This is the stuff a banana republic is made of.Of course the highly partisan right doesn't
care if it comes down on the wrong side of history.
Don't even think an IG investigation is something new or special, the office routinely investigates complaints filed against the FBI and DOJ. tRump's fanbase will remain loyal no matter what comes down the pike. :crazy:
Why won't congress ask for tRump's tax return righties......something to hide! :yikes:
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Looks like you’ve got it huff! Nice! And who said you weren’t trainable. 😬
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Constantly calling the free press fake news(when you're the one making that news) , calling for investigations on your political opponents, deriding law enforcement, and intel agencies are the earmarks of a dictator. :idea:
 
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orangeluvr said:
Constantly calling the free press fake news(when you're the one making that news) , calling for investigations on your political opponents, deriding law enforcement, and intel agencies are the earmarks of a dictator. :idea:
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Deriding law enforcement - like Democrats constantly do to ICE and local police departments?
 
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orangeluvr said:
Constantly calling the free press fake news(when you're the one making that news) , calling for investigations on your political opponents, deriding law enforcement, and intel agencies are the earmarks of a dictator. :idea:
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You mean like the one that started 370ish days ago
 
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I am waiting for the bodies to start piling up... Remember nobody go to jail with the clintons....Because of the witness turn up dead
 
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volfanhill said:
I take it you aren’t a CPA
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If there's nothing to hide why all of the smoke and mirrors being thrown up by the far right. Let the investigation run it's course and let the chips fall where they may,if need be prosecute all involved in the'16 election D or R. Lady Justice is supposedly blind.
 
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orangeluvr said:
What we have here is an all out attack by tRump and the g o p faaaaar right freedom caucus to obstruct, obfuscate, and derail a legitimate federal investigation. Shameful abuse of power to undermine democracy and the rule of law. This is the stuff a banana republic is made of.Of course the highly partisan right doesn't
care if it comes down on the wrong side of history.
Don't even think an IG investigation is something new or special, the office routinely investigates complaints filed against the FBI and DOJ. tRump's fanbase will remain loyal no matter what comes down the pike. :crazy:
Why won't congress ask for tRump's tax return righties......something to hide! :yikes:
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To quote Luke Skywalker, "everything you just said is wrong."
 
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orangeluvr said:
Constantly calling the free press fake news(when you're the one making that news) , calling for investigations on your political opponents, deriding law enforcement, and intel agencies are the earmarks of a dictator. :idea:
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Sweet Odins raven, you literally have no idea what you are talking about do you? Where do you copy and paste your misguided vitriol? You might want to tell those 8th graders to get their facts straight before you plagiarize them anymore....
 
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