Troops "on" the Mexican border

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I honestly see this is a good opportunity to for them to practice surveillance. That can be good or bad depending on how you look at it.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
National guard. They will use it as their 2 weeks a year one weekend a month stuff. Probably just drive around in humvees, launch a lot of drones, play horseshoes, have a BBQ, go to medical, complain about active duty, pack up and go back to whatever job they have in the real world..rinse and repeat.
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They can even do more than two weeks. There’s always orders for that stuff. Air too, depending on the intention.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I honestly see this is a good opportunity to for them to practice surveillance. That can be good or bad depending on how you look at it.
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Odds are good that they roll up in their trucks on top of the highest hill, in plain sight, and then have a shift of each of the soldiers in the truck for who is observing what, when. The rest of the soldiers are going to be playing cards, dipping, drinking monsters, and doing a bunch of nothing.

At it's very heart it is some weird show of force mission. Thus, they will be clearly visible. Yet, immigrants will just walk right on past the trucks because the orders against engaging and/or contacting these individuals in any way, and there are not enough border agents to get to a significant amount of these immigrants.

This rodeo has been run before.
 
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therealUT said:
Odds are good that they roll up in their trucks on top of the highest hill, in plain sight, and then have a shift of each of the soldiers in the truck for who is observing what, when. The rest of the soldiers are going to be playing cards, dipping, drinking monsters, and doing a bunch of nothing.

At it's very heart it is some weird show of force mission. Thus, they will be clearly visible. Yet, immigrants will just walk right on past the trucks because the orders against engaging and/or contacting these individuals in any way, and there are not enough border agents to get to a significant amount of these immigrants.

This rodeo has been run before.
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Yep. 99% agree. Mountain Dew instead of Monsters.


Wait..maybe that was just an Air Force thing. :unsure:
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
surveillance for starters.
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If your surveillance training consists in sitting out in the open, being clearly visible to those you are observing, then, at best, what you are training for is simply using the equipment and calling in reports.

You can do this for a whole lot less money without having to deploy to the border.

The funding this project is, necessarily, going to be out of proportion to any possible goal that can be achieved. These units will likely be on two-week rotations, and these two weeks most likely include the travel time to and from. So, most likely, you're getting 12-day rotations in the field (at best).

Yet, this does not include the time spent on equipment. If these units are bringing their own equipment, we are talking about all the time and money spent on loading this equipment. Further, we are then talking about all the time that will be spent accounting for this equipment on the ground near the border, and prepping to load it back out. That, alone, is at least a one-week job (most likely 10 days). Thus, they probably are not bringing their own equipment.

But, if they are not bringing their own equipment, then each unit will be signing on to the equipment on the ground. This inventory process and serial number check is, for anyone who has ever deployed, re-deployed, or been part of a change of command, is incredibly time-consuming (no unit commander is going to sign for stuff that is dirty and/or might be broken or not fully operational). Thus, this 12-day rotation is most likely down to, at best, an 8-10 day rotation.

So, at best, these troops are getting 10 days of the ****tiest surveillance training the military can provide.

I guess they could drive. There's a lot of time and money...good training, though, right?
 
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tumscalcium said:
I’d pick up 6 citrus rip it’s for a guy every midnight meal. That all he’d have. Every night. I still shudder thinking about it.
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Drinking one squat half-can of Rip It will keep you alert for hours. I cannot imagine throwing back six in one night. I imagine my heart would ****ing explode!
 
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therealUT said:
Drinking one squat half-can of Rip It will keep you alert for hours. I cannot imagine throwing back six in one night. I imagine my heart would ****ing explode!
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Oh yeah. Of course, he was also my bunkmate and my first night there I walked in on him piercing his own nipple. So that gives you an idea.
 
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therealUT said:
Drinking one squat half-can of Rip It will keep you alert for hours. I cannot imagine throwing back six in one night. I imagine my heart would ****ing explode!
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Guy actually did die of that when I was in Germany. Mainlined energy drinks and had a heart attack right in the Shoppette parking lot. Couldn't be revived.
 
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Mick said:
U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in Tennessee carried out the largest workplace raid in 10 years at a meatpacking plant, The Washington Post reports.

Ninety-seven immigrants were arrested Thursday at Southeastern Provision in Grainger County, Tenn., most of whom were from Mexico, according to Tammy Spicer, an ICE spokeswoman.

http://thehill.com/latino/382000-ice-carries-out-largest-workplace-raid-in-a-decade-report
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Immigrants of the state are worried? Give me a freaking break. If they are here legally then there is absolutely nothing to fear.
 
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Mick said:
U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in Tennessee carried out the largest workplace raid in 10 years at a meatpacking plant, The Washington Post reports.

Ninety-seven immigrants were arrested Thursday at Southeastern Provision in Grainger County, Tenn., most of whom were from Mexico, according to Tammy Spicer, an ICE spokeswoman.

http://thehill.com/latino/382000-ice-carries-out-largest-workplace-raid-in-a-decade-report
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If those immigrants are legal that’s disgusting.
 
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therealUT said:
If your surveillance training consists in sitting out in the open, being clearly visible to those you are observing, then, at best, what you are training for is simply using the equipment and calling in reports.

You can do this for a whole lot less money without having to deploy to the border.

The funding this project is, necessarily, going to be out of proportion to any possible goal that can be achieved. These units will likely be on two-week rotations, and these two weeks most likely include the travel time to and from. So, most likely, you're getting 12-day rotations in the field (at best).

Yet, this does not include the time spent on equipment. If these units are bringing their own equipment, we are talking about all the time and money spent on loading this equipment. Further, we are then talking about all the time that will be spent accounting for this equipment on the ground near the border, and prepping to load it back out. That, alone, is at least a one-week job (most likely 10 days). Thus, they probably are not bringing their own equipment.

But, if they are not bringing their own equipment, then each unit will be signing on to the equipment on the ground. This inventory process and serial number check is, for anyone who has ever deployed, re-deployed, or been part of a change of command, is incredibly time-consuming (no unit commander is going to sign for stuff that is dirty and/or might be broken or not fully operational). Thus, this 12-day rotation is most likely down to, at best, an 8-10 day rotation.

So, at best, these troops are getting 10 days of the ****tiest surveillance training the military can provide.

I guess they could drive. There's a lot of time and money...good training, though, right?
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You should be chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

What unit did you command when you were in the military?
 
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