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#26
#26
cncchris33 said:
I hope not, but BTO didn't exactly shoot it down, either, assuming you're referring to the out of shape commentary. If it were patently false, I'd have expected him to set the record straight (assuming he knows). Maybe @Stoerner Fumbles can ring in on it.
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Medenwald has it under control. This is not anywhere near a DJ Burns situation.
 
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#27
#27
bleedingTNorange said:
I don’t think he’s lazy or unmotivated or intentionally trying to be a fat a$$ lol…I think just like DK last year and the majority of first year players under Barnes there’s an adjustment to how much you are expected to exert defensively which isn’t something most are used to.
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You ever notice that it’s the same posters every time continually taking your quotes out of context
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I don’t think he’s lazy or unmotivated or intentionally trying to be a fat a$$ lol…I think just like DK last year and the majority of first year players under Barnes there’s an adjustment to how much you are expected to exert defensively which isn’t something most are used to.
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Perhaps the person relaying this info misspoke, but I don't necessarily equate showing up out of shape (their words) to not being used to working so hard on defense. I remember Knecht being surprised and having to adjust to the defensive intensity, but I don't remember him being cast as someone who showed up out of shape (and perhaps I'm misremembering if that isn't true). I'm taking the characterization of Lanier at face value, which is to suggest that he was out of shape as compared to where he was on his OV, or that he knew the expectations and didn't prepare himself for it. Again, that's based solely on the word of this one source, who may be poorly communicating his condition, so I'll take it with a grain of salt and hope that better days are ahead for Chaz.
 
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#32
#32
cncchris33 said:
I hope not, but BTO didn't exactly shoot it down, either, assuming you're referring to the out of shape commentary. If it were patently false, I'd have expected him to set the record straight (assuming he knows). Maybe @Stoerner Fumbles can ring in on it.
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Agree with BTO. Anyone not from this program has an adjustment period with the physicality, commitment to repeat and replay defensive mistakes and the conditioning. I’m sure it’s been hard for him, but that comment is exaggerated as I’ve heard a lot of excitement around him and no complaints, except that he’s timid about driving. I didn’t disagree with most of that post otherwise. Coaches love Okpara at both ends. He has Aidoo’s length with Awaka’s fire. Igor is a machine on offense, but making mistakes on switches and drives on defense. He gets lots of blocks. Dubar is not making a dent yet, and gets lost. ZZ loves Okpara and the two of them seem to be growing a chemistry on lobs and kickouts. The dynamic of Igor and Okpara is going to be very interesting. I think our drop in athleticism at guard beyond ZZ will hurt our defense, but I think we’ll lead the SEC in blocks. It’ll be hard to replace the defense of Josiah and Santi. I think that should’ve been expected, but it’s proving to be true. On the positive side Okpara is exceeding expectations and Igor is giving us something we’ve never had before. I think Chaz will be fine. I don’t think he’s going to create as much off the dribble in this league, but he’ll catch up on the conditioning and score a lot from three.
 
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#33
#33
Stoerner Fumbles said:
Agree with BTO. Anyone not from this program has an adjustment period with the physicality, commitment to repeat and replay defensive mistakes and the conditioning. I’m sure it’s been hard for him, but that comment is exaggerated as I’ve heard a lot of excitement around him and no complaints, except that he’s timid about driving. I didn’t disagree with most of that post otherwise. Coaches love Okpara at both ends. He has Aidoo’s length with Awaka’s fire. Igor is a machine on offense, but making mistakes on switches and drives on defense. He gets lots of blocks. Dubar is not making a dent yet, and gets lost. ZZ loves Okpara and the two of them seem to be growing a chemistry on lobs and kickouts. The dynamic of Igor and Okpara is going to be very interesting. I think our drop in athleticism at guard beyond ZZ will hurt our defense, but I think we’ll lead the SEC in blocks. It’ll be hard to replace the defense of Josiah and Santi. I think that should’ve been expected, but it’s proving to be true. On the positive side Okpara is exceeding expectations and Igor is giving us something we’ve never had before. I think Chaz will be fine. I don’t think he’s going to create as much off the dribble in this league, but he’ll catch up on the conditioning and score a lot from three.
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Perfect. Glad to hear you both in agreement and that the comment was exaggerated.
 
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#35
#35
pimo1 said:
Thats the exciting news to me (Okpara/Milicic). From what I saw on tape Milicic and Dubar are good playmakers, we know ZZ is so that fits in with Lanier being a catch-and-shoot guy. I think Dubar off the bench gives us our best rotation because he can sub in more spots than Milicic. I think Okapara and Milici are the key to this being a good season and and great season. I think we have enough options at guards that we can make that work. Having 4 solid guys that can play legit minutes at the 4/5 is the key. Okpara/Milicic/Dubar gives us 3 we just gotta get 8-10 mins from someone else, hopefully Estrella? Cam Carr though... where is his game at? He's still listed at 175 does he have tapeworms?
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We def need Dubar to be a spark plug coming off the bench playing multiple positions...hope that is how it plays out. I think Estrella takes a step forward in his development and gives us some solid play for the 15 or so minutes we need.
 
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#36
#36
Stoerner Fumbles said:
Agree with BTO. Anyone not from this program has an adjustment period with the physicality, commitment to repeat and replay defensive mistakes and the conditioning. I’m sure it’s been hard for him, but that comment is exaggerated as I’ve heard a lot of excitement around him and no complaints, except that he’s timid about driving. I didn’t disagree with most of that post otherwise. Coaches love Okpara at both ends. He has Aidoo’s length with Awaka’s fire. Igor is a machine on offense, but making mistakes on switches and drives on defense. He gets lots of blocks. Dubar is not making a dent yet, and gets lost. ZZ loves Okpara and the two of them seem to be growing a chemistry on lobs and kickouts. The dynamic of Igor and Okpara is going to be very interesting. I think our drop in athleticism at guard beyond ZZ will hurt our defense, but I think we’ll lead the SEC in blocks. It’ll be hard to replace the defense of Josiah and Santi. I think that should’ve been expected, but it’s proving to be true. On the positive side Okpara is exceeding expectations and Igor is giving us something we’ve never had before. I think Chaz will be fine. I don’t think he’s going to create as much off the dribble in this league, but he’ll catch up on the conditioning and score a lot from three.
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Hope Dubar can turn it around...not surprised to hear the good vibes for Okpara and Igor (I am optimistic Igor will figure out the D).

What's the word on Gainey and Carr? Would be nice if they both take steps forward and provide some sparks coming off the bench.
 
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#37
#37
Lefteye said:
The common denominator this year and most any other under CRB, is will the group be able to defend at the level his style and culture has demanded. The difference now imo, is that coach has loosened some of the defensive requirements to allow for more offensive output. The freedom DK(despite how elite he was) had last year leads me to believe that CRB is going to turn guys like Igor, DStone and Chaz loose more than he would have in previous years, even if their defense isn’t up to the usual par.
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I am not going to get too concerned with early reports. Some guys suffer from YOU TALKIN’ BOUT PRACTICE syndrome but can adjust as staff involvement increases. Won’t rule out some newbies stepping into the room a bit timid and simply have to adjust. Can’t buy into the staff missed on their abilities to meet the standard expectations. It is NOW real, and will follow more closely observations of practice.
 
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#38
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
Agree with BTO. Anyone not from this program has an adjustment period with the physicality, commitment to repeat and replay defensive mistakes and the conditioning. I’m sure it’s been hard for him, but that comment is exaggerated as I’ve heard a lot of excitement around him and no complaints, except that he’s timid about driving. I didn’t disagree with most of that post otherwise. Coaches love Okpara at both ends. He has Aidoo’s length with Awaka’s fire. Igor is a machine on offense, but making mistakes on switches and drives on defense. He gets lots of blocks. Dubar is not making a dent yet, and gets lost. ZZ loves Okpara and the two of them seem to be growing a chemistry on lobs and kickouts. The dynamic of Igor and Okpara is going to be very interesting. I think our drop in athleticism at guard beyond ZZ will hurt our defense, but I think we’ll lead the SEC in blocks. It’ll be hard to replace the defense of Josiah and Santi. I think that should’ve been expected, but it’s proving to be true. On the positive side Okpara is exceeding expectations and Igor is giving us something we’ve never had before. I think Chaz will be fine. I don’t think he’s going to create as much off the dribble in this league, but he’ll catch up on the conditioning and score a lot from three.
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I think folks are sleeping on Cam Carr. I’m not taking for granted that he doesn’t start over Lanier.
 
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#40
#40
TheMookieMonster said:
I didn’t have high expectations for Dubar to begin with, but I do hope he can find that extra gear because I think we’ll need him to be more than just a warm body this year if we want to make a Final Four.
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I’m a bit surprised that several of you guys are souring on Dunbar so quickly as he was one of the most efficient scores in the country last season and was deadly on corner 3’s. If he can find his defense and rebound a bit, I can see him as an excellent guy to set up in the corner as ZZZ & friends work the offense. This should spread the court and if his guy slumps off to help defend then take the corner 3. Am I missing something?
 
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#41
#41
NighthawkVol said:
I think folks are sleeping on Cam Carr. I’m not taking for granted that he doesn’t start over Lanier.
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I feel like Carr needs to put on some serious weight.. 175 ain't gonna cut it at 6-5 in the SEC. h needs to put on at least 10-15 on top of that. Kinda weird that on roster he's gained 2 lbs since he came on campus? Breathing Knoxville air alone should be like 5 lbs.
 
#44
#44
This team is just as deep as the 2022 one. If Dubar ends up Justin Powell 2.0 then hopefully means more minutes for Carr. I think either him or Mashack could be small ball 4s for certain matchups.
 
#45
#45
Stoerner Fumbles said:
His minutes in scrimmages are pretty significant. I’m not sleeping on him, or even near him.
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#46
#46
walkenvol said:
I’m a bit surprised that several of you guys are souring on Dunbar so quickly as he was one of the most efficient scores in the country last season and was deadly on corner 3’s. If he can find his defense and rebound a bit, I can see him as an excellent guy to set up in the corner as ZZZ & friends work the offense. This should spread the court and if his guy slumps off to help defend then take the corner 3. Am I missing something?
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I’m not sure I would classify my comments as “souring” on him as my opinion of him hasn’t changed. I thought he was a fine addition when we picked him up, but he was always viewed as the 4th best transfer in the class of 4. I’m just reacting to the info at hand which is that SF said “Dubar hasn’t made a dent.”

I’m not giving up on him. But based on today’s information, he certainly needs to be more than “not a dent” if we are going to make a run.
 
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#47
#47
I'm pretty anxious to see the transfers in action. We have to do better in this area than we have in the past, especially in today's NCAA environment. We don't need to land a Knecht-level player every year, but the average quality has to be better than the likes of Powell, Bailey, Gainey, etc. As transfer prospects, I really like Lanier, Dubar, and Okpara. I'm a little hesitant to jump on the Milicic hype train at this moment, but there is def good reason to be optimistic about him imo. I'm usually pretty skeptical on mid-major transfers (of course Okpara came from a high-major) until they play a game as a Vol, but I definitely like this group off the bat. I think this will pretty easily be Barnes's best overall transfer class at UT, all due respect to Dalton Knecht.
 
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#48
#48
walkenvol said:
I’m a bit surprised that several of you guys are souring on Dunbar so quickly as he was one of the most efficient scores in the country last season and was deadly on corner 3’s. If he can find his defense and rebound a bit, I can see him as an excellent guy to set up in the corner as ZZZ & friends work the offense. This should spread the court and if his guy slumps off to help defend then take the corner 3. Am I missing something?
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High efficiency against low-major opponents, even sprinkled in with some high efficiency outings against high-majors is difficult to translate to nightly production at the SEC level. And like everyone else, he has to defend. Just being a capable shooter won't get him on the floor.

Like Mookie, he was my least favored of the four transfers, before (I'd have ranked them 1. Okpara, 2./2a. Chaz/Igor, and 4. Dubar), and these reports simply confirm my already tepid opinion of him.
 
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