Transfer Portal Numbers

#26
#26
Team Out In
ACC

Boston College 13 4
Clemson 11 1
Duke 12 9
Florida St 26 12
Georgia Tech 16 17
Louisville 18 12
Miami 18 11
NC State 9 1
North Carolina 16 5
Pittsburgh 17 6
Syracuse 17 8
Virginia 19 9
Virginia Tech 17 5
Wake Forest 11 4

AAC Out In

Central Florida 23 12
Cincinnati 9 7
East Carolina 28 14
Houston 25 10
Memphis 18 7
Navy 4 0
SMU 13 17
South Florida 20 15
Temple 16 9
Tulane 9 8
Tulsa 8 5

Big 12 Out In

Baylor 6 3
Iowa St 21 3
Kansas 23 10
Kansas St 17 8
Oklahoma 13 13
Oklahoma St 15 5
TCU 17 14
Texas 23 7
Texas Tech 9 13
West Virginia 23 10

Big 10 Out In

Illinois 20 6
Indiana 33 13
Iowa 7 1
Maryland 29 5
Michigan 12 1
Michigan St 21 8
Minnesota 24 8
Nebraska 18 15
Northwestern 8 5
Ohio St 20 3
Penn St 14 3
Purdue 13 6
Rutgers 22 6
Wisconsin 12 6

Independents Out In

Army 6 0
BYU 10 4
Connecticut 21 5
Liberty 10 13
Massachusetts 14 16
Notre Dame 14 4

MAC Out In

Akron 10 15
Ball St 10 5
Bowling Green 13 8
Buffalo 25 12
Central Michigan 17 1
Eastern Michigan 15 5
Kent St 7 4
Miami-OH 15 8
Northern Illinois 5 3
Ohio 11 3
Toledo 17 7
Western Michigan 8 4

MWC Out In

Air Force 8 0
Boise St 6 3
Colorado St 20 13
Fresno St 14 9
Hawaii 20 12
Nevada 17 13
New Mexico 14 7
San Diego St 10 7
San Jose St 11 6
UNLV 16 6
Utah St 17 7
Wyoming 11 5

PAC 12 Out In

Arizona 25 8
Arizona St 20 14
California 11 6
Colorado 23 7
Oregon 18 10
Oregon St 9 1
Stanford 9 1
UCLA 21 12
USC 27 20
Utah 16 7
Washington 19 9
Washington St 33 7

Sunbelt Out In

Appalachian St 10 9
Arkansas St 23 8
Coastal Carolina 16 4
Georgia Southern 16 9
Georgia St 15 3
Idaho 1 0
James Madison 3 5
Louisiana 13 1
Louisiana-Monroe 17 2
Marshall 12 11
New Mexico St 11 6
Old Dominion 10 4
South Alabama 10 13
Southern Miss 15 11
Texas St 8 14
Troy 10 5

SEC Out In
Alabama 23 5
Arkansas 20 9
Auburn 21 8
Florida 12 7
Georgia 13 0
Kentucky 16 7
LSU 16 15
Mississippi St 24 9
Missouri 17 11
Ole Miss 23 16
South Carolina 20 9
Tennessee 21 7
Texas A&M 12 2
Vanderbilt 19 6

USA Out In

Charlotte 9 3
Florida Atlantic 12 9
FIU 17 8
Louisiana Tech 10 9
MTSU 17 7
North Texas 21 9
Rice 15 7
Texas-San Antonio 7 9
UAB 11 2
UTEP 9 1
Western Kenticky 13 9
These data show that a lot more players enter the portal than find a place to play. Unless these players are encouraged to enter, most of them are making a bad decision.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jonnon111
#27
#27
The service academies are at a severe disadvantage in the portal game. Completely unable to accept transfers in (cadets/midshipmen have to start at the start, can't come to the academy as a sophomore, junior or senior).

So all the academies can do with the portal is lose freshmen and sophomores (juniors and seniors are locked into service commitments).

They’re losing 10 kids between them. That may have been in line with their regular attrition rate given the meat grinder of being a cadet/midshipman and a varsity athlete.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VFL-82-JP
#28
#28
These data show that a lot more players enter the portal than find a place to play. Unless these players are encouraged to enter, most of them are making a bad decision.

Check a later post I made. Many are not going to continue to play the place they are leaving for multiple reasons. Frankly, they were not going to play elsewhere either. Just some wishing or hoping they can continue.

They players that have the ability to play at a college level, find homes somewhere if they want it. I would say 95% that don't find a home were / are not going to play anywhere. Most were taking up space on a roster.
 
#29
#29
I have as well. Enlisted don't do all "the work".

Well I'm not counting contractors.
Which that resource grows ever more frequently. Right? What about them. Doing the same work.

I have nothing against officers or the chain of command.

But the idea of giving NIL money to a bunch of less football talented guys BECAUSE they're going to serve their country is a bit much.

One has it's own purpose from the other.
 
#30
#30
And a degree from anywhere and the experience of playing college athletics should the be the case as well
And THAT will be the reality for most.
The NIL is for Bryce Youngs, Randy Moss's and Jimmy Clausen's of the world.

The one's that put butt's in college stadiums and makes people tune in on the TV.
 
#31
#31
As a West Point grad, I'm with you, brother.

Our nation's enlisted troops (army, navy, air force, marines, coast guard), they all seriously rock. Both the younger lads and lasses, and the NCOs who lead them.

Every officer I know worth his or her salt realizes what a privilege it is to command them.

So you're not wrong.

Having said that, one of my roommates and good friends as a cadet was an Army football player. We all thought our schedules were demanding, getting up before dawn to prepare our rooms for inspection, then breakfast formation, classes all day, mandatory lunch, mandatory dinner, mandatory "fun" (extracurricular activities) between 3:30 and dinner, then study hours from 7 to 11, mandatory lights out, and start it all again early the next morning. Including classes on Saturdays.

But we had nothing on the football players. Hardest-working cadets and midshipmen of all. Somehow they added to that schedule an hour or two of lifting each morning, and three hours of team practices each afternoon. My buddy would sneak studying in after taps each night just because he had no other place to fit it in.

So give the fellas wearing the academy colors on Saturdays a little nod of appreciation, will ya?

Go Vols!

You're right and I should have been less obtuse about it.

And there's some lazy enlisted as well.

My real point is that, Navy, Air Force, Army will never play for a big money event or get huge TV ratings every week.

They're two different universes- The NIL college football and what the academies represent.

By the way, this is the first time I read one of your posts all the way through 😁.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VFL-82-JP
#32
#32
Well I'm not counting contractors.
Which that resource grows ever more frequently. Right? What about them. Doing the same work.

I have nothing against officers or the chain of command.

But the idea of giving NIL money to a bunch of less football talented guys BECAUSE they're going to serve their country is a bit much.

One has it's own purpose from the other.
I have mixed feelings on NIL but one of the things I like is that the deals are free agreements and a free market exchange. I wouldn't be surprised if the Academies aren't faced with an extremely difficult situation when some patriotic, pro military group or company wants to use the NIL of their athletes.

NIL doesn't necessarily have to reward guys based on talent. I hope those guys have an opportunity too.... and would probably support a company that did so.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SpookyAction
#33
#33
You're right and I should have been less obtuse about it.

And there's some lazy enlisted as well.

My real point is that, Navy, Air Force, Army will never play for a big money event or get huge TV ratings every week.

They're two different universes- The NIL college football and what the academies represent.

By the way, this is the first time I read one of your posts all the way through 😁.
Haha :)
 
#34
#34
I have mixed feelings on NIL but one of the things I like is that the deals are free agreements and a free market exchange. I wouldn't be surprised if the Academies aren't faced with an extremely difficult situation when some patriotic, pro military group or company wants to use the NIL of their athletes.

NIL doesn't necessarily have to reward guys based on talent. I hope those guys have an opportunity too.... and would probably support a company that did so.
I thought that also. I am not aware of any binding section of the pledge those men and women sign when entering the service academies would specifically prevent them from entering a transaction agreement, but others might know much more about it and I am not researching it.
 
#35
#35
It is not out of the realm of possibililty each branch could form a NIL collective and pay the entire team for commercials. The players might wait until after they enter their service to receive the money. Not sure.
Lots of room to maneuver in the new landscape.
 
#36
#36
Numbers don't matter as much as the "Whys"

Why are they going out? Recruited over, personal/discipline issues, grades, coaching changes, scheme changes, etc
Why are they coming in? JUCO/Portal Gems, because recruiting class(es) weren't very good, to help out due to injuries, etc
 
#38
#38
As a West Point grad, I'm with you, brother.

Our nation's enlisted troops (army, navy, air force, marines, coast guard), they all seriously rock. Both the younger lads and lasses, and the NCOs who lead them.

Every officer I know worth his or her salt realizes what a privilege it is to command them.

So you're not wrong.

Having said that, one of my roommates and good friends as a cadet was an Army football player. We all thought our schedules were demanding, getting up before dawn to prepare our rooms for inspection, then breakfast formation, classes all day, mandatory lunch, mandatory dinner, mandatory "fun" (extracurricular activities) between 3:30 and dinner, then study hours from 7 to 11, mandatory lights out, and start it all again early the next morning. Including classes on Saturdays.

But we had nothing on the football players. Hardest-working cadets and midshipmen of all. Somehow they added to that schedule an hour or two of lifting each morning, and three hours of team practices each afternoon. My buddy would sneak studying in after taps each night just because he had no other place to fit it in.

So give the fellas wearing the academy colors on Saturdays a little nod of appreciation, will ya?

Go Vols!

Also a grad. Just to add, these guys really do this for the love the game and the love of competition. They ain’t going pro (maybe a 0.0001 exception).
 
  • Like
Reactions: VFL-82-JP
#39
#39
most went to lower divisions.
pimo1: You are, of course, correct (brain phart on my part). But it begs the question of how are these high school kids getting such bad advice? Is it the old story of aim high and hope for the best.
Seems like a lot of these kids would be better off starting in a "realistic" division and then moving up if they have the talent. JMHO.
 
#40
#40
There is a lot on the table to study about the likes of Georgia and Alabama. They always recruit extremely well and not only do they recruit that well they get the absolute most out of what they do recruit. One thing else that also helps them out is the fact that both coaches have had the time and the classes to stock pile talent so that helps out a lot. There is just so many different advantage that they have because of they development that they have had over the years. One day very soon I truly believe that for us on the offense side of the ball we will become like that.
re "stock pile talent" I don't know how much talent can be stockpiled when the "stock" can go elsewhere. I think this is Saban's primary concern.
 
  • Like
Reactions: orangebloodgmc
#41
#41
pimo1: You are, of course, correct (brain phart on my part). But it begs the question of how are these high school kids getting such bad advice? Is it the old story of aim high and hope for the best.
Seems like a lot of these kids would be better off starting in a "realistic" division and then moving up if they have the talent. JMHO.
People assume that most of these kids in the portal are just angry, angsty, indecisive kids. The Reality is this. A good number of these kids especially from the bigger programs went in the portal because the staff let them know they weren't likely in the plans for the future. This isn't something new its always happened. This is actually the main point of the portal to help those kids find destinations. Kind of like a craigslist for discarded players. We all focus on the big names and the sour grapes. Trust me more kids get shown the way to the portal than leave for it. of their own accord.
 
Advertisement



Back
Top