Trade with China has cost 3,200,000 American jobs

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n_huffhines said:
Trade with China undoubtedly creates jobs.

Cheaper goods, thus higher standard of living for everyone who buys those goods.
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What we (enormous majority of the US) lost:

* Skilled labor
* Manufacturing power and independence

What we got:

* Wal-Mart cashiers and stockers
* Easily replaceable labor force and an economy that is reliant on external forces

Sounds like a great trade-off. Lets handicap our manufacturing base, particularly technology, and give it to our geopolitical foe.
 
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agent|orange said:
What we (enormous majority of the US) lost:

* Skilled labor
* Manufacturing power and independence

What we got:

* Wal-Mart cashiers and stockers
* Easily replaceable labor force and an economy that is reliant on external forces

Sounds like a great trade-off. Lets handicap our manufacturing base, particularly technology, and give it to our geopolitical foe.
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It sounds like a terrible tradeoff when you over-simplify it like that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It sounds like a terrible tradeoff when you over-simplify it like that.
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Yea it takes A LOT of "critical thinking" to come up with positive benefits. At least it's Chinese workers jumping off the roof of their dormitory labor camp buildings........until they put those pesky nets up.
 
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We lost skilled labor? (We have) How does Boeing continue to build planes?

The two industries I want back is Steel and Textiles.
 
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#VFL__ said:
That would eventually be taken over after I died by some ivy league graduate that gives two ****s about the product or the people that I employed. It's the same process with every business. The person that starts it, does it because they usually enjoy or care about the product. Then it just becomes a number game for someone else to justify making 400x the people that I would have justly paid and given benefits to.

I'm not poor, the majority of my fellow Americans are. This will continue until we are all second class citizens and our ability to choose our life's path will gradually decline. It's just something that I think most people can see with their eyes and most can certainly feel it in their pockets.
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n_huffhines said:
Trade with China undoubtedly creates jobs.

Cheaper goods, thus higher standard of living for everyone who buys those goods.
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Trade with China undoubtedly kills jobs as well. I have no idea what type of job you have, but I can tell you without question that this has destroyed a ton of small businesses in the US. Machine shops, tool and die mfgs., plastics mfgs.....electronic components.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Well, for one, nobody asked me that question.
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Lol what? You said trade with China created jobs. Does your "critical thinking" not work on the basis if we lose 5 million jobs and there's 100k that can actually be attributed to trading with China that's an overall loss.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
He's just asking you a question that you can't answer....take your ball and go home...
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He wants me to defend a statement I never made. I never said that the jobs created outnumber the jobs lost. What I am arguing is the benefit to the economy outweighs the number of jobs lost. Part of the benefit is new jobs. It's not the only part.

You 2 can't keep up with opposing points of view without making the discussion into something it's not. You hear something you don't understand and you leap to wild conclusions.

CC can't even keep up with things that have been said on a 1-page thread. He accused me of not answering a question that was never asked. It's like a clown convention.
 
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n_huffhines said:
He wants me to defend a statement I never made. I never said that the jobs created outnumber the jobs lost. What I am arguing is the benefit to the economy outweighs the number of jobs lost. Part of the benefit is new jobs. It's not the only part.

You 2 can't keep up with opposing points of view without making the discussion into something it's not. You hear something you don't understand and you leap to wild conclusions.

CC can't even keep up with things that have been said on a 1-page thread. He accused me of not answering a question that was never asked. It's like a clown convention.
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Ok....here is a response to your benefit statement.

What we (enormous majority of the US) lost:

* Skilled labor
* Manufacturing power and independence

What we got:

* Wal-Mart cashiers and stockers
* Easily replaceable labor force and an economy that is reliant on external forces

Sounds like a great trade-off. Lets handicap our manufacturing base, particularly technology, and give it to our geopolitical foe.

to which you called an over simplification....right?

Well, can you explain what types of jobs were lost versus those created since this is such an over simplification?

This hardly appears to be a clown convention unless you're referring to yourself.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
This hardly appears to be a clown convention unless you're referring to yourself.
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I'm not talking about Agent Orange. He can converse with people without acting like a child so we have good, constructive discussions, even when we disagree.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
To get your cheap dollar store/walmart/ikea crap you have to have slave type labor costs. Thats why the US manufacturing economy is becoming a service economy. You can blame regulation and rights and all that for those jobs going away.

Chinese factory workers get about $1.50 an HOUR on average......US guys make about $25 on average...
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And wowzerLols at the chance of dying at work in China..good lawd!

And for some fun:
CNN Global Wage Calculator - CNN.com

Im worth 50 teachers in Ethiopia!!
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Just more proof as to how government regulation kills jobs.

I wish I worked in a country where you had a 1 in 100 chance of dying at work.
 
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