Top Ten differences between white terrorists and others

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A friend emailed me this list. Interesting.



Top Ten differences between White Terrorists and Others

1. White terrorists are called “gunmen.” What does that even mean? A person with a gun? Wouldn’t that be, like, everyone in the US? Other terrorists are called, like, “terrorists.”

2. White terrorists are “troubled loners.” Other terrorists are always suspected of being part of a global plot, even when they are obviously troubled loners.

3. Doing a study on the danger of white terrorists at the Department of Homeland Security will get you sidelined by angry white Congressmen. Doing studies on other kinds of terrorists is a guaranteed promotion.

4. The family of a white terrorist is interviewed, weeping as they wonder where he went wrong. The families of other terrorists are almost never interviewed.

5. White terrorists are part of a “fringe.” Other terrorists are apparently mainstream.

6. White terrorists are random events, like tornadoes. Other terrorists are long-running conspiracies.

7. White terrorists are never called “white.” But other terrorists are given ethnic affiliations.

8. Nobody thinks white terrorists are typical of white people. But other terrorists are considered paragons of their societies.

9. White terrorists are alcoholics, addicts or mentally ill. Other terrorists are apparently clean-living and perfectly sane.

10. There is nothing you can do about white terrorists. Gun control won’t stop them. No policy you could make, no government program, could possibly have an impact on them. But hundreds of billions of dollars must be spent on police and on the Department of Defense, and on TSA, which must virtually strip search 60 million people a year, to deal with other terrorists.
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Don't get me wrong, I think its a little over the top. But there is at least a grain of truth to the point it is making.
 
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Gramps said:
and that would be?
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That Muslims who shoot up or bomb a venue are assumed to have done so as part of a centuries-long plot by Islam to kill all Christians or Westerners. We dismiss the Batman shooter, or the Arizona shooter, as clearly mentally ill.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That Muslims who shoot up or bomb a venue are assumed to have done so as part of a centuries-long plot by Islam to kill all Christians or Westerners. We dismiss the Batman shooter, or the Arizona shooter, as clearly mentally ill.
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There's some truth to this. There is a very good chance that Islamic mass-murderers are just as mentally ill as the white guys. That said, the crazy Islamic murderers actually have something in common: Islam. The crazy white guys don't seem to have anything in common other than being crazy. So it's worth asking whether Islam is really good at convincing crazy people to commit mass murder.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That Muslims who shoot up or bomb a venue are assumed to have done so as part of a centuries-long plot by Islam to kill all Christians or Westerners. We dismiss the Batman shooter, or the Arizona shooter, as clearly mentally ill.
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You mean Tea Party members
 
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lawgator1 said:
That Muslims who shoot up or bomb a venue are assumed to have done so as part of a centuries-long plot by Islam to kill all Christians or Westerners. We dismiss the Batman shooter, or the Arizona shooter, as clearly mentally ill.
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who dismissed him as anything? most don't get a label until we know enough. The muslims committing terrorist acts in the name of Islam get a label as religious extremists because they make public their motives. You know, terrorists make public their reasoning or they're just wanton murderers. Maybe you have some prayer of discerning the difference.

Oh, and white people are racists by their very nature.
 
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WTF is the point of this?

Is someone suggesting that we give preferential treatment to white murderers!? :crazy:
 
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BigPapaVol said:
who dismissed him as anything? most don't get a label until we know enough. The muslims committing terrorist acts in the name of Islam get a label as religious extremists because they make public their motives. You know, terrorists make public their reasoning or they're just wanton murderers. Maybe you have some prayer of discerning the difference.

Oh, and white people are racists by their very nature.
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What makes it "in the name of"? That's a pretty vague and loaded phrase.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That Muslims who shoot up or bomb a venue are assumed to have done so as part of a centuries-long plot by Islam to kill all Christians or Westerners. We dismiss the Batman shooter, or the Arizona shooter, as clearly mentally ill.
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I guess I missed the mass street celabrations after the AZ and WI shootings like there were after 9/11?
 
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lawgator1 said:
What makes it "in the name of"? That's a pretty vague and loaded phrase.
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don't be dense. Terrorists are different from mass murderers in that they publicize their motives in order to achieve something. Murderers are just killers. There is a difference. Your OP shows a lack of understanding of said difference.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
don't be dense. Terrorists are different from mass murderers in that they publicize their motives in order to achieve something. Murderers are just killers. There is a difference. Your OP shows a lack of understanding of said difference.
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The Norwegian guy who killed all those kids at camp -- he had a Christian reason. The Batman movie killer -- he had a racial reason.

Why are they not part of a "movement" while Muslims who do similar things are?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The Norwegian guy who killed all those kids at camp -- he had a Christian reason. The Batman movie killer -- he had a racial reason.

Why are they not part of a "movement" while Muslims who do similar things are?
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link?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The Norwegian guy who killed all those kids at camp -- he had a Christian reason. The Batman movie killer -- he had a racial reason.

Why are they not part of a "movement" while Muslims who do similar things are?
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and they've both been labeled terrorists. What's your point which you claim holds true from the ludicrous OP?
 
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how do you account for the tribute money paid to the families of Palestinian terrorists?

A Hamas suicide bomber's family got $25,000 while the others - relatives of militants killed in fighting or civilians killed during Israeli military operations - all received $10,000 each.

Another banner in the hall described the cheques as the "blessings of Saddam Hussein" and PALF speakers extolled the Iraqi leader in fiery speeches.

"Saddam Hussein considers those who die in martyrdom attacks as people who have won the highest degree of martyrdom," said one.

The party estimated that Iraq had paid out $35m to Palestinian families since the current uprising began in September 2000.
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it seems like a united effort to me. if anders brevik was similarly supported - or the other white terrorists - i'm curious to see by whom.

edit: link. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm
 
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There is so much wrong in the OP that is hard to know where to start.

1. BPV is spot on with the distinction between a person who murders for their own sensational reason but without regard to causing any sort of political effect and a person who murders in order to gain a political objective.

2. Terrorism by any of the 17+ definitions always has a political aim.

3. Recent so-called White Terrorists would include Timothy McVeigh and maybe the recent killer at the Sikh Temple, but I would not put the Batman shooter and maybe not Laughner (just don't know enough about his motives) in that category. The mass murderer in Norway could go either way, he definitely had a desire to kill children of the right wing political party, just not sure he intended to have any other political effect on the population--again I would need more details.

4. People get tied to a movement when they are found to be part of a movement. It isn't racist to say that Al Qaeda is part of the Salafist movement with a goal of rebuilding the Islamic Caliphate. That is written in their recruiting brochures.

5. There are many groups that use terrorist tactics to achieve their aims around the world, not just White "Loners" and Muslims. There are also many people who simply lose touch with any sort of reality and just go kill people. The fact that people die is the only real connection between the two. But, people who want to make a pseudosocial/political commentary lump them together and then call anyone who makes a distinction a racist.
 
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