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slickstirs said:
unless you people stay off these boards and quit bashing the coaches, team and recruits, none of the big name recruits are going to come here anyway....STFU...it's not the university or coaches running these recruits off...IT'S THE FANS they read these boards....
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THIS if you think recruits coaches and the like read message boards and put any weight in them you have the wrong idea about message boards. They are for teh FANS and we are the only ones that read them.
 
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slickstirs said:
unless you people stay off these boards and quit bashing the coaches, team and recruits, none of the big name recruits are going to come here anyway....STFU...it's not the university or coaches running these recruits off...IT'S THE FANS they read these boards....
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I think the young men being recruited can see the same thing everyone else does. If I was being recruited I would inspect and look at the direction of the program I was interested in. I don't think they are reading message boards to make their decision. Remember, they are all fans of some team as well. If their team they follow isn't getting it done, I am sure they experience the same emotions as any other fan. After speaking with the coaches recruiting them and if they are confident that school is the right fit for them I don’t think they pop over to the message board before committing.

The fans of UT aren’t the only members of society bringing the state of our program up. National media is making the same points on TV. I would think they are more influenced on what they hear from ESPN rather on what they read on Volnation to make their decision.
 
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If Dooley this, if Dooley that.. Quit making excuses for this loser, he can't and won't get the job done here at Tennessee! Year 2.. Give me a break.
 
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slickstirs said:
unless you people stay off these boards and quit bashing the coaches, team and recruits, none of the big name recruits are going to come here anyway....STFU...it's not the university or coaches running these recruits off...IT'S THE FANS they read these boards....
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I think if you read, I wasn't bashing the team or recruits. I said that with the proper coaching, this team was capable of winning a couple of those games they lost. The defensive backs are out of place leaving receivers wide open. That's coaches fault period. It's always been my belief that, to earn your pay, you need to produce.
 
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slickstirs said:
you had NOTHING when he got here....either give him time or go back 3-4 years and in 3 years from now you can be looking for another coach....you can't just beat top SEC teams over night..
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Your argument would be valid if Dooley was a good coach previously or if he had expertise in offence or defence. He sucked at LA Tech he nor was he ever a coordinator of offence or defence he was a TE coach for Saban. The guy hasn't worked for anything all his life he has lived off of his daddy's name. Now he has to work for something and look at his result.
 
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slickstirs said:
unless you people stay off these boards and quit bashing the coaches, team and recruits, none of the big name recruits are going to come here anyway....STFU...it's not the university or coaches running these recruits off...IT'S THE FANS they read these boards....
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Worst post I've ever read..

I can't believe this ran through someone's brain and landed here on volnation for us to read.. Unbelievable
 
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BleedorangeinGA said:
I think the young men being recruited can see the same thing everyone else does. If I was being recruited I would inspect and look at the direction of the program I was interested in. I don't think they are reading message boards to make their decision. Remember, they are all fans of some team as well. If their team they follow isn't getting it done, I am sure they experience the same emotions as any other fan. After speaking with the coaches recruiting them and if they are confident that school is the right fit for them I don’t think they pop over to the message board before committing.

The fans of UT aren’t the only members of society bringing the state of our program up. National media is making the same points on TV. I would think they are more influenced on what they hear from ESPN rather on what they read on Volnation to make their decision.
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Or being inundated with information of rival recruiters along with sports channels.

Rival recruiter "yeah UT has nice facilities but look at what they say about their coach...do you want to play for that guy that their own fans disparage. See just look at this (ex. VN).

Another example, look at social media sources as some of the same garbage is spouted on there. Kids love all of this crap and they read it all. I am told this by some current players, granted they are scrubs.

My point is it has to be a little bit of an influence when going head to head against the current elite of the SEC.
 
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dgcarter43 said:
I think if you read, I wasn't bashing the team or recruits. I said that with the proper coaching, this team was capable of winning a couple of those games they lost. The defensive backs are out of place leaving receivers wide open. That's coaches fault period. It's always been my belief that, to earn your pay, you need to produce.
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would you say that the offense has improved....if so, then yes there is improvement...defense suks but give credit if you are going to bash...with any defense at all this team could have very easily have lost only to Bama...
 
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slickstirs said:
unless you people stay off these boards and quit bashing the coaches, team and recruits, none of the big name recruits are going to come here anyway....STFU...it's not the university or coaches running these recruits off...IT'S THE FANS they read these boards....
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This is how bad everything has gotten ... first it's the coordinators and now it's the fans. It seems that many on here never look on any other sports forums out there. All the losing teams get bashed during the season. What I wonder is how many people dead set on Dooley staying are fans of other teams that would hate to see him replaced?
 
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I would Like to have been able to see improvement across the Board. Fundamental football. Wrap up tackling. Correct amount of players on the field. In game changes. Players being lined up correct.Recruiting is very bad. 2014 is predicted to be the worse class in 25 years considering the juniors we are in on . The Offense has had the Starting QB all season, a year stronger and smarter 0-line, a RB coach(for the first time under Dooley) and yet all we hear is how Dooley fixed The offense,lol It's amazing how many MEN, That supposedly follow football think Dooley is a good Coach.
 
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BleedorangeinGA said:
I think the young men being recruited can see the same thing everyone else does. If I was being recruited I would inspect and look at the direction of the program I was interested in. I don't think they are reading message boards to make their decision. Remember, they are all fans of some team as well. If their team they follow isn't getting it done, I am sure they experience the same emotions as any other fan. After speaking with the coaches recruiting them and if they are confident that school is the right fit for them I don’t think they pop over to the message board before committing.

The fans of UT aren’t the only members of society bringing the state of our program up. National media is making the same points on TV. I would think they are more influenced on what they hear from ESPN rather on what they read on Volnation to make their decision.
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Your Avatar.. What's going on with it?
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
This is how bad everything has gotten ... first it's the coordinators and now it's the fans. It seems that many on here never look on any other sports forums out there. All the losing teams get bashed during the season. What I wonder is how many people dead set on Dooley staying are fans of other teams that would hate to see him replaced?
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here's the deal bud....Dooley goes...this team starts all over..new coach, scheme. most players go or test NFL market...it will not be productive for 3 to 4 years and based on the fans..3 years is plenty of time to be top notch in the SEC...so based on that ..the next coach has 3 years to produce or he is out....a revolving door unless there is some sort of patience....
 
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VolFootballlover said:
I would Like to have been able to see improvement across the Board. Fundamental football. Wrap up tackling. Correct amount of players on the field. In game changes. Players being lined up correct.Recruiting is very bad. 2014 is predicted to be the worse class in 25 years considering the juniors we are in on . The Offense has had the Starting QB all season, a year stronger and smarter 0-line, a RB coach(for the first time under Dooley) and yet all we hear is how Dooley fixed The offense,lol It's amazing how many MEN, That supposedly follow football think Dooley is a good Coach.
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Barbara must have multiple accounts..
 
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slickstirs said:
here's the deal bud....Dooley goes...this team starts all over..new coach, scheme. most players go or test NFL market...it will not be productive for 3 to 4 years and based on the fans..3 years is plenty of time to be top notch in the SEC...so based on that ..the next coach has 3 years to produce or he is out....a revolving door unless there is some sort of patience....
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If a real Coach walks In The Vols will be 3 Times better with less Talent!
 
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slickstirs said:
here's the deal bud....Dooley goes...this team starts all over..new coach, scheme. most players go or test NFL market...it will not be productive for 3 to 4 years and based on the fans..3 years is plenty of time to be top notch in the SEC...so based on that ..the next coach has 3 years to produce or he is out....a revolving door unless there is some sort of patience....
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The crystal ball is strong with this one....
 
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slickstirs said:
here's the deal bud....Dooley goes...this team starts all over..new coach, scheme. most players go or test NFL market...it will not be productive for 3 to 4 years and based on the fans..3 years is plenty of time to be top notch in the SEC...so based on that ..the next coach has 3 years to produce or he is out....a revolving door unless there is some sort of patience....
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Please stop.
 
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I don't see the doom and gloom with changing coaches.. I mean we've started 0-5 in the SEC for 3 straight years.. Whoever came in here would have to try real hard to reach that level of sucktivity...
 
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Cartervol said:
I don't see the doom and gloom with changing coaches.. I mean we've started 0-5 in the SEC for 3 straight years.. Whoever came in here would have to try real hard to reach that level of sucktivity...
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I honestly Believe any coach in the Sun Belt could have taken this Tennessee Team and won 2 of those 5 !
 
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EconVol92 said:
OK, I see what you’re saying, but can we agree on a few things?

First, Tennessee lost one that they should not have lost last year against Kentucky, and that the team quit on him that game?

Had a great start against Florida this year, but the team quit on him again after the missed extra point in the 3rd quarter?

The Troy game should never ever have been a close game?

I wanted Dooley to succeed, but the truth is that a head coach cannot lose the team and have them quit on him ever. If you can’t motivate them to run through a wall for you, then you have failed. At least as far as being a head football coach and I mean that for any level of football.

Now, I will also say that Dooley should be given another year, unless a big hire can be made as I don’t see how taking another chance with an unknown would benefit the program at this time. I will also include Sal in that statement as I hate to give up on someone after just one year as I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and think that the players have just not learned all of the ins and outs of the 3-4 and that it is still an ongoing learning process.

It’s about pride and teamwork, and that has been what’s lacking at times over the last couple of years. It all starts at the head coach level and works its way down.
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THIS!!! Basic leadership….It doesn’t matter what you are talking about, whether it be football, baseball, work, military, life in general…young men 18-22 years of age want to be lead. Regardless of their own leadership ability they want a role model to follow! They are very impressionable. They are looking for that leader that they would run through a brick wall for…..If CDD can’t see this, understand this, and be that guy, then he should not be the HC at UT or anywhere else for that matter! Contrary to popular belief, it is not all about raw talent, it’s about confidence..I just think CDD lacks that. JMO
 
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Cartervol said:
I don't see the doom and gloom with changing coaches.. I mean we've started 0-5 in the SEC for 3 straight years.. Whoever came in here would have to try real hard to reach that level of sucktivity...
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Sucktivity, gonna have to steal that from you. That's top shelf.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
All the losing teams get bashed during the season. What I wonder is how many people dead set on Dooley staying are fans of other teams that would hate to see him replaced?
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And if other losers do it, then in order to be a loser you must do it? The people "dead set on Dooley staying" really don't exist. There are many that are dead set against him. Some have patience; others have none.

The FANS want to see the UT Volunteers succeed. The coach is a part of that equation. The team is a part of that equation. The fans are even part of that equation. Those that continue to beat a dead horse just enjoy beating dead horses.

When I was recruited out of high school, the coach at 'Bama was a fellow by the name of Bear Bryant. He sat in my living room and said, "Son, if your parents would be proud of you if you come to Alabama, we would love to have you." Well, my parents would have been proud of me if I went to West Valley College of Bookbinding! I chose the University of Tennessee. I would do so again. I'm not sure it would be a matter of pride again.
 
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