Too much ice

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Skooter said:
Why is there always finger pointing trying to blame one person and no accountability? Blame can be spread around. I believe the ice officer panicked and overreacted when he shot her, but again for like the 4th time you and Eastern fail to acknowledge, if she stays home with her kid instead of getting in the car with her wife looking for trouble with the intent to block and harass govt agents, the overreaction never has a chance to happen and she’s around for her kids next birthday.
wtf is so hard about that to understand, I will never know.
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More word salad. Plan on answering the question?
NashVol11 said:
Word salad. So who is primarily to blame? The ones doing the shooting or the ones who got shot?
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Skooter said:
I didnt say anything about justified. Fact won’t change that if they stay home and didn’t have the goal to harass agents they would both be here.
It’s exhausting trying to explain basic common sense to fools who don’t have the ability and make up arguments not being made.
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The problem is it’s still victim blaming. It’s like when a girl goes out and gets drunk and then some pos rapes her. “She shouldn’t have put herself in a bad situation” a murder is a murder whether they put themselves in a bad situation or not
 
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Smokey123 said:
The problem is it’s still victim blaming. It’s like when a girl goes out and gets drunk and then some pos rapes her. “She shouldn’t have put herself in a bad situation” a murder is a murder whether he put himself in a bad situation or not
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I don’t agree. I don’t see the victim in your example looking for trouble
 
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Skooter said:
I don’t agree. I don’t see the victim in your example looking for trouble
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Nobody is out looking to get murdered. If I’m at a bar and get in a fight it’s not my fault an a$$hole pulls out a gun and shoots me

Now if they pulled their gun or threatened them with murder your argument would have same validity
 
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Skooter said:
You post some things that make sense but I can’t back up from my action/reaction statement because it’s a fact reaction doesn’t exist without action.
Now, overreaction to an action is a different discussion, but again overreaction doesn’t exist without the initial action. Why open that door.
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the issue in this case is the singular government "gets" to take their "reaction" and apply it to a whole nation of people who weren't part of the initial "action". thats wrong. its one of the foundational concepts of this nation. its why the responsibility is on the government to justify itself to us.

POS protester X does something at least questionable. government reacts and punishes entire nation. I, as part of the 'entire nation', don't see the initial protester X action. All I see, and care about, is the government action that impacts me/us. my/our anger is going to be on the government.

its a core thing about responsibility. You aren't always responsible for what happens to you, but you ARE responsible for how you react.
 
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Smokey123 said:
The problem is it’s still victim blaming. It’s like when a girl goes out and gets drunk and then some pos rapes her. “She shouldn’t have put herself in a bad situation” a murder is a murder whether they put themselves in a bad situation or not
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The shooting of the woman (1st shooting) in her car was justifiable and she was at fault. But while it was legally justifiable it was unnecessary and a complete overreaction by the officer. The guy that was killed, that was point blank murder and some officers need to be standing trial.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Nobody is out looking to get murdered. If I’m at a bar and get in a fight it’s not my fault an a$$hole pulls out a gun and shoots me

Now if they pulled their gun or threatened them with murder your argument would have same validity
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Would you advise your son or daughter to take a gun and go harass agents? Or get in their car and track them down to block them and interfere?
I will assume you’d advise against it.
Also, like Saturday, millions of people find a way to protest peacefully without asking for trouble and finding it.
 
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Skooter said:
Why is there always finger pointing trying to blame one person and no accountability? Blame can be spread around. I believe the ice officer panicked and overreacted when he shot her, but again for like the 4th time you and Eastern fail to acknowledge, if she stays home with her kid instead of getting in the car with her wife looking for trouble with the intent to block and harass govt agents, the overreaction never has a chance to happen and she’s around for her kids next birthday.
wtf is so hard about that to understand, I will never know.
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That's kind of like saying that if the shooters' mothers had given them up for adoption and they have gotten an education, nobody would have been shot. It's just dodging responsibility for their actions.
 
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LouderVol said:
this has fallen off.

first it was 100% cut off. then it was practically 100%, with only a few edge cases making it. then it was a hard 99%, now we are at 95%.

these numbers are getting revised just like Biden's job numbers.

I wonder what they will be the next time.
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Get back to us when we see waves of caravans crossing the Rio Grande again. DF
 
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EasternVol said:
That's kind of like saying that if the shooters' mothers had terminated their pregnancies, nobody would have gotten shot. It's just dodging responsibility for their actions.
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It’s not like that at all. I posted that he panicked and overreacted.
Have you gone out in your car with the goal to harass agents? Again I assume not because you may have the capability to understand if you look for trouble you have a good chance of finding it.
 
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Skooter said:
Why is there always finger pointing trying to blame one person and no accountability? Blame can be spread around. I believe the ice officer panicked and overreacted when he shot her, but again for like the 4th time you and Eastern fail to acknowledge, if she stays home with her kid instead of getting in the car with her wife looking for trouble with the intent to block and harass govt agents, the overreaction never has a chance to happen and she’s around for her kids next birthday.
wtf is so hard about that to understand, I will never know.
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But but but but fascism is worth not staying home? The 2 posters you referenced are butthurt libs.

If you don't want to risk being shot by federal agents act like you have some intelligence and people won't correctly assume that you are intentionally stirring 💩
 
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Skooter said:
Then stay at home and don’t take a gun looking to harass police or govt agents. You clowns have the common sense of mentally ill.
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You keep saying this when people keep having to slow down to explain the concept of victim-blaming and the problems with "they were asking for it" to you and you still don't get it
 
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hog88 said:
The shooting of the woman (1st shooting) in her car was justifiable and she was at fault. But while it was legally justifiable it was unnecessary and a complete overreaction by the officer. The guy that was killed, that was point blank murder and some officers need to be standing trial.
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Agreed. I would still classify her as a victim tho, legally justified but overreaction and she shouldn’t have been killed
 
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